Is Christianity dead????

[Ceelgabo]

Why do Christians except Jewish Hollywood mockery prophet Issa(pbuh) as freedom of Speech?

There is no freedom of speech for someone who criticizes Isreal or the Zoinist, but there is freedom of speech for perverted Jewish director to insult, make mockery of prophet Issa(pbuh) and his mother Mariam(may allah be pleased with her) in the worst way.

[1nemansquad]

It sure is dead. And white people sure lost their damn mind. Now they are saying the found Jesus's remainings and they are going to trace his DNA back to God ..

Sick fockers

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Ever watch the movie "Bullworth"? There are plenty of films out there that criticize Israel and the Jews in general. There is also plenty of media that do the same.

The reason you can't recognize this is:

a. You want to demonize Israel, as if it's policies were inherently evil. You don't want balance and come from a society that doesn't acknowledge the concept.

b. You do not understand how a "Christian Society" could allow it's own religion to be criticized and mocked when in your society that is impossible. Therefore there must be a Jewish conspiracy. The reality is, you haven't the slightest concept what freedom of speech means.

[Grant]

Some Christians are doing better than others. For instance, Mormons continue to have both high birth and conversion rates.

My view from here is that the outward forms of Christianity are changing. The megaChurches and TV evangelism are having an effect. Social, medical and psychological research is having an effect on traditional attitudes. Europe may be more secular and less Christian than the US, but here it is still a majority faith.

I would say it is changing, not dying.

On other fronts, keep in mind that Christianity started out (and some would say still is) a Jewish sect.

[Kamal35]

Technically, after the French Revolution, and philosophers of the 19th Century as Nietzsche, Marx and Freud, Christianity should be dead by now, but the Vatican is strong enough and rich enough to mantain its privileges and lies on people all over the world. I would like to see that documentary, because I always believed Jesus' body must be buried somewhere in the Middle East. No one single man since the first Homo Erectus has skipped the Laws of God (which are the Laws of Science). So nobody could resucitate after his death, walk on the waters or turn water into wine. Once is proved the real and physical death of Jesuchrist, Christianity will lose its primary pillar, and it will collapse. Religious beliefs will be substituted by Science Beliefs or Deist Beliefs.

But I don't think that Vatican will allow it to happen...

[fagash_killer]

Those who say Christianity is dead or dying might, on the face of it, have a point. There is widespread disillusionment with the established church, and secularism encourages a view of religion that would exculpate its influence from the public domain.

To make matters worse there is a shrinking demographic in Christianity's traditional European strongholds. And a new liberalism has taken hold in Europe and North America that wants to diminish the authority of the hierarchy and erode traditional doctrine on issues such as life, family, and sexuality.

But while this is the case in the old Christian world, think about this. In the Philippines the annual rate of baptisms is higher than the totals for Italy, France, Spain and Poland combined. Of the 18 million Catholic baptisms recorded in 1998, 8 million took place in Central and South America, 3 million in Africa and almost 3 million in Asia.


The coming dominance of new Christianity is the theme of a ground-breaking book by American historian of religion Philip Jenkins, The Next Christendom: The Coming of Global Christianity.

The perception that Christianity is dead is a peculiarly Western-dominated line of thought.

[Kamal35]

Welcome back, Fagash. Good point there. What the Church is now has nothing to do with real Christianity or the things that Jesuchrist said. It's just the opposite. The Church now is the same Church Jesuchrist was fighting against in his time. Now the religion is embraced in Third World countries and poor people who have nothing except their hope in Christianity. The true Christianity is forbidden by the Vatican and it's called Theology of Liberation, a movement which started in South America and is prosecuted by Christian Church... If Jesuchrist was born again, the Vatican would kill him again in order to keep its power.

[fagash_killer]

[quote="Kamal35"]Welcome back, Fagash. Good point there. What the Church is now has nothing to do with real Christianity or the things that Jesuchrist said. It's just the opposite. The Church now is the same Church Jesuchrist was fighting against in his time. Now the religion is embraced in Third World countries and poor people who have nothing except their hope in Christianity. The true Christianity is forbidden by the Vatican and it's called Theology of Liberation, a movement which started in South America and is prosecuted by Christian Church... If Jesuchrist was born again, the Vatican would kill him again in order to keep its power.[/quote]

thnx amigo. im excetly not really back but like i've promised some forumers i will open/reply some topics here but most of the time i will not be here.im glad that my christian brothers realised this point.and their are plenty of good christians for example 230.000 polish christians lost their lives cuss they tried save the lives of polish jews. last week the polish church have insulted jews and the jews saw this remarks as anti-semitic.ore what about when the pope insulted prophet muhammed?indeed the true Christianity is forbidden by the Vatican and its just like you said the Vatican would even kill jesus christs again in order to keep its power just like the romans killed him by nailing him to a cross and leaving him without food or water. This was a common way for the Romans to kill rebels and criminals i dont see any difference between the romans and the vatican.and thats why some christians dont recognise the pope like the protestants and thats why they see him as anti christ

[Grant]

I don't know the exact figures, but Catholics are a minority in the US.

In my Mother's family, the tail of a chicken is still called the "Pope's nose".

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

"So nobody could resucitate after his death, walk on the waters or turn water into wine. Once is proved the real and physical death of Jesuchrist, Christianity will lose its primary pillar, and it will collapse. Religious beliefs will be substituted by Science Beliefs or Deist Beliefs."

Don't you see Kamal, you're looking at this shit all wrong. Now it could be that God raised the dead, he changed coke to Pepsi, he found my focking cars keys. Now, whether or not the resurrection of Christ can is a proven miracle or not is insignificant, but what is significant, is Christians think they feel the touch of God. That God gives a shit about them.

You can have all the scientific arguments and demonstrations you want, but you will never change the fact that people are more interested in succor than truth. Only a minority are interested in the truth, and that minority is detested by those who see their search for the truth as a threat to their emotional security. They would rather be pigs in the mud. Just like the Muslims here.