"mad mac
i guess. what cannot be cured should be endured."
biko
What you mean endured?? They should be annihilited at all cost. Stop being so soft pussio
"Almost 300 million now.
God Bless America."
Ok all 300 million of you. I can put up with 30 more no problem
Interesting article - worth the read
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Re: Interesting article - worth the read
300million. but how many of those will switch their allegiance? how many are muslims and how many will be turning muslims?
how many of those have their on plan for america?
forget the muslims. what about all those red neck militias with an ax to grind?
without al qaeda, rag heads and muslims so called terrorist, your country is like a presure cooker that doesnt need osama for sh!t to go wrong.
how many of those have their on plan for america?
forget the muslims. what about all those red neck militias with an ax to grind?
without al qaeda, rag heads and muslims so called terrorist, your country is like a presure cooker that doesnt need osama for sh!t to go wrong.
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Re: Interesting article - worth the read
"300million. but how many of those will switch their allegiance?"
Probably very few. As Padishah himself says, it is forbidden for Muslims living in a foreign country to function as some sort of fifth column.
"how many are muslims and how many will be turning muslims?"
About 6 million Muslims, if you include the nation of Islam. A few tens of thousands of converts a year.
"how many of those have their on plan for america?"
WTF does this mean?
"forget the muslims. what about all those red neck militias with an ax to grind?"
They have already been defeated.
"without al qaeda, rag heads and muslims so called terrorist, your country is like a presure cooker that doesnt need osama for sh!t to go wrong."
Hmmmmm, 200 plus years would seem to defy that statement.
Probably very few. As Padishah himself says, it is forbidden for Muslims living in a foreign country to function as some sort of fifth column.
"how many are muslims and how many will be turning muslims?"
About 6 million Muslims, if you include the nation of Islam. A few tens of thousands of converts a year.
"how many of those have their on plan for america?"
WTF does this mean?
"forget the muslims. what about all those red neck militias with an ax to grind?"
They have already been defeated.
"without al qaeda, rag heads and muslims so called terrorist, your country is like a presure cooker that doesnt need osama for sh!t to go wrong."
Hmmmmm, 200 plus years would seem to defy that statement.
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Re: Interesting article - worth the read
Patriot,
Very few American Indian groups were actually exterminated. Please read this, keeping in mind that a good many more people are mixed, but choose to identify with their non-indian ancestry. Mike and Mac are both half Miq-Mak, and I have cousins who are half Cherokee. It is estimated that 75% of the Blacks in Oakland have Native ancestry.
II Population: Past and Present
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A Early Population
"Scholars vary greatly in their estimates of how many people were living in the Americas when Columbus arrived in 1492. Estimates range from 40 million to 90 million for all of the Americas, and from 2 million to 18 million for the aboriginal population north of present-day Mexico. These figures are hypothetical; exact population figures are impossible to ascertain. Furthermore, the date of Columbus’s arrival was not necessarily the peak of the Native American population. Civilizations had risen and fallen before that time—the Hopewell culture, for example, flourished from 200 bc to ad 400 in eastern North America. Some anthropologists believe the peak occurred around ad 1200.
The number of distinct Native American groups or cultures that existed at the time of European contact is more difficult to estimate. Scholars do not estimate the number of tribes that existed at the time because few Native American peoples had the level of political organization associated with true tribes. For many native peoples, especially those who lived in areas with sparse resources, the family was the largest unit, while others were organized into bands. Some tribes did exist, but it is impossible to estimate their number, for smaller groups were constantly merging into new, larger groups, or in some cases, disappearing. Europeans applied the term nation to people with a common language and customs and a name for themselves, and by 1700, they were aware of some 50 or 60 distinct Indian “nations†east of the Mississippi River. The Spaniards found some 50 Indian nations in the West, including the Pueblo, Athapaskan-speaking peoples, Comanche, and Piman- and Yuman-speaking peoples. In the Southeast and East, many Indians tried to meet the European invasion by creating confederacies or by increasing their reliance on existing confederacies of smaller groups.
B Decline
European settlement of the Americas drastically reduced the Native American population. The European conquest was primarily a biological one. Explorers and colonists brought a wide range of deadly communicable diseases directly from crowded European cities. These diseases spread quickly among Native Americans, who had no immunity to them. Transmitted through trade goods or a single infected person, measles, smallpox, and other diseases annihilated entire communities even before they had seen a single European. From the 16th century to the early 20th century, 93 epidemics and pandemics (very widespread epidemics) of European diseases decimated the native population. To cite only one example, in the American Southwest, the Pueblo population fell by 90 to 95 percent between 1775 and 1850. In addition to smallpox and measles, explorers and colonists brought a host of other diseases: bubonic plague, cholera, typhoid fever, scarlet fever, pleurisy, mumps, diphtheria, pneumonia, whooping cough, malaria, yellow fever, and various sexually transmitted infections.
Despite the undisputed devastation wreaked on Indian populations after European contact, native populations showed enormous regional variability in their response to disease exposure. Some peoples survived and, in some cases, even returned to their pre-contact population level. Others disappeared swiftly and completely. Today, as scholars explore the magnitude of the Native American population decline, they are finding that the issues are much more complex than was previously assumed. Archaeological evidence indicates that illness was increasing in the Native American population in many regions before the arrival of Columbus, probably in response to problems of population density, diet, and sanitation.
Although the introduction of new diseases was the main cause of the rapid decline of indigenous populations, other reasons were genocidal warfare, massive relocations and removals of Native Americans from their homelands, and the destruction of traditional ways of life. With white encroachment on their land, Native Americans no longer had access to their traditional hunting, gathering, and farming areas. Their subsistence patterns broke down, leading to malnutrition and greater susceptibility to disease. Relocation to new areas, often among hostile Indian tribes that were already living there, meant that people demoralized by their circumstances had to establish new subsistence patterns as well as come to terms with their forced dependency. By 1900, these factors, along with increased mortality and decreased fertility, had reduced the Native American population to its low point of only about 250,000 people in the United States and about 100,000 in Canada.
C Recovery
During the 20th century, Native Americans experienced a remarkable population recovery because of decreased mortality rates, including declining disease rates. Intermarriage with nonnative peoples and changing fertility patterns have kept Native American birthrates higher than birthrates for the total North American population. Another factor in the increase is that more people in the United States are identifying themselves as Native American on their census forms. By one estimate, as much as 60 percent of the population increase of American Indians from 1970 to 1980 was due to these changing identifications.
In the United States, 2.48 million people identified themselves as American Indian in the 2000 census, up from 1.8 million in 1990. More than 300 American Indian tribes are recognized by the U.S. federal government. In Canada, there are about 600 bands of Indians. At the 1996 census, about 805,000 people—including Indians, Métis, and Inuit—identified themselves as aboriginals. For more information on current population trends in the United States and Canada, see the Native Americans Today section of this article."
Trudy Griffin-Pierce contributed the Population: Past and Present section of this article.
Very few American Indian groups were actually exterminated. Please read this, keeping in mind that a good many more people are mixed, but choose to identify with their non-indian ancestry. Mike and Mac are both half Miq-Mak, and I have cousins who are half Cherokee. It is estimated that 75% of the Blacks in Oakland have Native ancestry.
II Population: Past and Present
Print this section
A Early Population
"Scholars vary greatly in their estimates of how many people were living in the Americas when Columbus arrived in 1492. Estimates range from 40 million to 90 million for all of the Americas, and from 2 million to 18 million for the aboriginal population north of present-day Mexico. These figures are hypothetical; exact population figures are impossible to ascertain. Furthermore, the date of Columbus’s arrival was not necessarily the peak of the Native American population. Civilizations had risen and fallen before that time—the Hopewell culture, for example, flourished from 200 bc to ad 400 in eastern North America. Some anthropologists believe the peak occurred around ad 1200.
The number of distinct Native American groups or cultures that existed at the time of European contact is more difficult to estimate. Scholars do not estimate the number of tribes that existed at the time because few Native American peoples had the level of political organization associated with true tribes. For many native peoples, especially those who lived in areas with sparse resources, the family was the largest unit, while others were organized into bands. Some tribes did exist, but it is impossible to estimate their number, for smaller groups were constantly merging into new, larger groups, or in some cases, disappearing. Europeans applied the term nation to people with a common language and customs and a name for themselves, and by 1700, they were aware of some 50 or 60 distinct Indian “nations†east of the Mississippi River. The Spaniards found some 50 Indian nations in the West, including the Pueblo, Athapaskan-speaking peoples, Comanche, and Piman- and Yuman-speaking peoples. In the Southeast and East, many Indians tried to meet the European invasion by creating confederacies or by increasing their reliance on existing confederacies of smaller groups.
B Decline
European settlement of the Americas drastically reduced the Native American population. The European conquest was primarily a biological one. Explorers and colonists brought a wide range of deadly communicable diseases directly from crowded European cities. These diseases spread quickly among Native Americans, who had no immunity to them. Transmitted through trade goods or a single infected person, measles, smallpox, and other diseases annihilated entire communities even before they had seen a single European. From the 16th century to the early 20th century, 93 epidemics and pandemics (very widespread epidemics) of European diseases decimated the native population. To cite only one example, in the American Southwest, the Pueblo population fell by 90 to 95 percent between 1775 and 1850. In addition to smallpox and measles, explorers and colonists brought a host of other diseases: bubonic plague, cholera, typhoid fever, scarlet fever, pleurisy, mumps, diphtheria, pneumonia, whooping cough, malaria, yellow fever, and various sexually transmitted infections.
Despite the undisputed devastation wreaked on Indian populations after European contact, native populations showed enormous regional variability in their response to disease exposure. Some peoples survived and, in some cases, even returned to their pre-contact population level. Others disappeared swiftly and completely. Today, as scholars explore the magnitude of the Native American population decline, they are finding that the issues are much more complex than was previously assumed. Archaeological evidence indicates that illness was increasing in the Native American population in many regions before the arrival of Columbus, probably in response to problems of population density, diet, and sanitation.
Although the introduction of new diseases was the main cause of the rapid decline of indigenous populations, other reasons were genocidal warfare, massive relocations and removals of Native Americans from their homelands, and the destruction of traditional ways of life. With white encroachment on their land, Native Americans no longer had access to their traditional hunting, gathering, and farming areas. Their subsistence patterns broke down, leading to malnutrition and greater susceptibility to disease. Relocation to new areas, often among hostile Indian tribes that were already living there, meant that people demoralized by their circumstances had to establish new subsistence patterns as well as come to terms with their forced dependency. By 1900, these factors, along with increased mortality and decreased fertility, had reduced the Native American population to its low point of only about 250,000 people in the United States and about 100,000 in Canada.
C Recovery
During the 20th century, Native Americans experienced a remarkable population recovery because of decreased mortality rates, including declining disease rates. Intermarriage with nonnative peoples and changing fertility patterns have kept Native American birthrates higher than birthrates for the total North American population. Another factor in the increase is that more people in the United States are identifying themselves as Native American on their census forms. By one estimate, as much as 60 percent of the population increase of American Indians from 1970 to 1980 was due to these changing identifications.
In the United States, 2.48 million people identified themselves as American Indian in the 2000 census, up from 1.8 million in 1990. More than 300 American Indian tribes are recognized by the U.S. federal government. In Canada, there are about 600 bands of Indians. At the 1996 census, about 805,000 people—including Indians, Métis, and Inuit—identified themselves as aboriginals. For more information on current population trends in the United States and Canada, see the Native Americans Today section of this article."
Trudy Griffin-Pierce contributed the Population: Past and Present section of this article.
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Re: Interesting article - worth the read
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Patriot,
The Spanish enslaved some native Americans, especially during the earliest colonial period, but virtually all of the slaves died and black African labor was substituted early on.
The general pattern of slavery in the Americas was for Blacks to be bought along the west African coast and transported to various points in the western hemisphere. Not that this is any greatly redeeming factor, but they were enslaved by other Blacks.
The movement against slavery was begun by the Quakers in Britain and moved from there to the US, where slavery was ended in 1865.
African enslavement is still going on, and there are still slave markets in Mauretania and the Sudan. Perhaps you should direct more of your disgust towards the evil that still exists.
The Spanish enslaved some native Americans, especially during the earliest colonial period, but virtually all of the slaves died and black African labor was substituted early on.
The general pattern of slavery in the Americas was for Blacks to be bought along the west African coast and transported to various points in the western hemisphere. Not that this is any greatly redeeming factor, but they were enslaved by other Blacks.
The movement against slavery was begun by the Quakers in Britain and moved from there to the US, where slavery was ended in 1865.
African enslavement is still going on, and there are still slave markets in Mauretania and the Sudan. Perhaps you should direct more of your disgust towards the evil that still exists.
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Re: Interesting article - worth the read
[quote="Madmadoobe"]mad
All 270 million americans can come and ***** my dickk[/quote]
now thats not very nice ....
All 270 million americans can come and ***** my dickk[/quote]
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