A Topic of Dispute in Islam: Music

Cash_Lacag763 · Post by **Cash_Lacag763** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 9:21 am

Whether it is through natural/physiological means or instruments, or tunes, depending on the kind or the different ways, music may be forbidden or disliked or even allowed according to some Islamic religious edicts. However, it is also known that Islam avoids absolutely accepting or remaining indifferent to the issue of music. It is this latter fact, ie, a sort of position by Islam, of cautioning by not allowing music, or encouraging it without reservation. It is this position whose reason or essence we will be discussing.

Firstly, music is a useless activity which in fact, is a state of passiveness. As we will explain in another article about gambling, the fact that such an inactivity, which is inherent in those so called professions, did not escape the attention of our religion.

Secondly, the benefit and pleasure taken from music involves a meaning of deep slavery in passion. Since Islam is the only enemy of passiveness and slavery in passion, an important duty of Islam is to search their traces in unexpected hide-outs.

Nagin · Post by **Nagin** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:59 pm

Salaamu Alyekume sister ^^^ thanks for the reminder music is part of the fitnah that many muslim are taking adventage of. May Allah (swt) guied us to the right path

amiin..
w/s

Cash_Lacag763 · Post by **Cash_Lacag763** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:15 pm

[quote="Nagin"]Salaamu Alyekume sister ^^^ thanks for the reminder music is part of the fitnah that many muslim are taking adventage of. May Allah (swt) guied us to the right path

amiin..
w/s[/quote]

WALAYKU WASALAM Nagin and you are welcome, i have one problem with your reply Nagin i am not a sister, i am a brother, i dont know what mande you think i was a sister Laughing

but anyways thanks for reading and tell other brothers and sister w/s

Nagin · Post by **Nagin** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:02 pm

Salaamu celykum my brother

Im sorry about Laughing

+chilli · Post by **+chilli** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:18 pm

Asaalamalikum bro Cash

Can i ask you where you get your posts from, especially this one.

Mainstream music is haram for the message it carries, but i think Music can be used as method of daawach look at growing industry of Nasheeds its pulling our young ppl from the mainstream music and planting the deen in their hearts.

Interesting article

sirataal_mustaqeem · Post by **sirataal_mustaqeem** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:19 am

Assalamu 'Alaikum wr wb,

Evidence of prohibition in the QurÂ’aan and Sunnah:

Allaah says in Soorat Luqmaan (interpretation of the meaning):

Â“And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing) to mislead (men) from the path of AllaahÂ…Â” [Luqmaan 31:6]

The scholar of the ummah, Ibn Â‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: this means singing. Mujaahid (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: this means playing the drum (tabl). (Tafseer al-Tabari, 21/40).

Al-Hasan al-Basri (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: this aayah was revealed concerning singing and musical instruments (lit. woodwind instruments). (Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 3/451).

Al-SaÂ’di (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: this includes all manner of haraam speech, all idle talk and falsehood, and all nonsense that encourages kufr and disobedience; the words of those who say things to refute the truth and argue in support of falsehood to defeat the truth; and backbiting, slander, lies, insults and curses; the singing and musical instruments of the Shaytaan; and musical instruments which are of no spiritual or worldly benefit. (Tafseer al-SaÂ’di, 6/150)

Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The interpretation of the Sahaabah and TaabiÂ’in, that Â‘idle talkÂ’ refers to singing, is sufficient. This was reported with saheeh isnaads from Ibn Â‘Abbaas and Ibn MasÂ’ood. AbuÂ’l-SahbaaÂ’ said: I asked Ibn MasÂ’ood about the aayah (interpretation of the meaning), Â‘Â“And of mankind is he who purchases idle talksÂ’ [Luqmaan 31:6]. He said: By Allaah, besides Whom there is no other god, this means singing Â– and he repeated it three times. It was also reported with a saheeh isnaad from Ibn Â‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with them both) that this means singing. There is no contradiction between the interpretation of Â“idle talkÂ” as meaning singing and the interpretation of it as meaning stories of the Persians and their kings, and the kings of the Romans, and so on, such as al-Nadr ibn al-Haarith used to tell to the people of Makkah to distract them from the QurÂ’aan. Both of them are idle talk. Hence Ibn Â‘Abbaas said: Â“Idle talkÂ” is falsehood and singing. Some of the Sahaabah said one and some said the other, and some said both. Singing is worse and more harmful than stories of kings, because it leads to zinaa and makes hypocrisy grow (in the heart); it is the trap of the Shaytaan, and it clouds the mind. The way in which it blocks people from the QurÂ’aan is worse than the way in which other kinds of false talk block them, because people are naturally inclined towards it and tend to want to listen to it. The aayaat condemn replacing the QurÂ’aan with idle talk in order to mislead (men) from the path of Allaah without knowledge and taking it as a joke, because when an aayah of the QurÂ’aan is recited to such a person, he turns his back as if he heard them not, as if there were deafness in his ear. If he hears anything of it, he makes fun of it. All of this happens only in the case of the people who are most stubbornly kaafirs and if some of it happens to singers and those who listen to them, they both have a share of this blame. (Ighaathat al-Lahfaan, 1/258-259).

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

Â“[Allaah said to Iblees:] And befool them gradually those whom you can among them with your voice (i.e. songs, music, and any other call for AllaahÂ’s disobedience)Â…Â” [al-IsraaÂ’ 17:64]

It was narrated that Mujaahid (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Â“And befool them gradually those whom you can among them with your voiceÂ” Â– his voice [the voice of Iblees/Shaytaan] is singing and falsehood. Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: This idaafah [possessive or genitive construction, i.e., your voice] serves to make the meaning specific, as with the phrases [translated as] Â“your cavalryÂ” and Â“your infantryÂ” [later in the same aayah]. Everyone who speaks in any way that is not obedient to Allaah, everyone who blows into a flute or other woodwind instrument, or who plays any haraam kind of drum, this is the voice of the Shaytaan. Everyone who walks to commit some act of disobedience towards Allaah is part of his [the ShaytaanÂ’s] infantry, and anyone who rides to commit sin is part of his cavalry. This is the view of the Salaf, as Ibn Â‘Abi Haatim narrated from Ibn Â‘Abbaas: his infantry is everyone who walks to disobey Allaah. (Ighaathat al-Lahfaan).

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

Â“Do you then wonder at this recitation (the QurÂ’aan)?

And you laugh at it and weep not,

Wasting your (precious) lifetime in pastime and amusements (singing)Â”

[al-Najm 53:59-61]

Â‘Ikrimah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: it was narrated from Ibn Â‘Abbaas that al-sumood [verbal noun from saamidoon, translated here as Â“Wasting your (precious) lifetime in pastime and amusements (singing)Â”] means Â“singingÂ”, in the dialect of Himyar; it might be said Â“Ismidi lanaaÂ” [Â‘sing for usÂ’ Â– from the same root as saamidoon/sumood] meaning Â“ghaniyÂ” [sing]. And he said (may Allaah have mercy on him): When they [the kuffaar] heard the QurÂ’aan, they would sing, then this aayah was revealed.

Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning) Â“Wasting your (precious) lifetime in pastime and amusements (singing)Â” Â– Sufyaan al-Thawri said, narrating from his father from Ibn Â‘Abbaas: (this means) singing. This is Yemeni (dialect): ismad lana means ghan lana [sing to us]. This was also the view of Â‘Ikrimah. (Tafseer Ibn Katheer).

It was reported from Abu Umaamah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: Â“Do not sell singing slave women, do not buy them and do not teach them. There is nothing good in this trade, and their price is haraam. Concerning such things as this the aayah was revealed (interpretation of the meaning): Â‘And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing) to mislead (men) from the path of AllaahÂ…Â’ [Luqmaan 31:6].Â” (Hasan hadeeth)

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Ukhti +Chilli, I think the brother was just refering to music, music (you know RNB, rock...etc) and not nasheeds and I wouldn't really call nasheeds music.

And Allah knows best, salam

Steeler [Crawler2] · Post by **Steeler [Crawler2]** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:24 am

"Firstly, music is a useless activity which in fact, is a state of passiveness. As we will explain in another article about gambling, the fact that such an inactivity, which is inherent in those so called professions, did not escape the attention of our religion."

Using this rationale, poetry is also forbidden.

somali-br02 · Post by **somali-br02** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:23 pm

Are Singing and Music Haram?

Among the entertainments which may comfort the soul, please the heart, and refresh the ear is singing. Islam permits singing under the condition that it not be in any way obscene or harmful to Islamic morals. There is no harm in its being accompanied by music which is not exciting.
In order to create an atmosphere of joy and happiness, singing is recommended on festive occasions such as the days of 'Eid, weddings and wedding feasts, births, 'aqiqat (the celebration of the birth of a baby by the slaughter of sheep), and on the return of a traveler.
'Aishah narrated that when a woman was married to an Ansari man, the Prophet(peace be on him) said, " 'Aishah, did they have any entertainment? The Ansarare fond of entertainment.'' (Reported by al-Bukhari.)
Ibn 'Abbas said, " 'Aishah gave a girl relative of hers in marriage to a man of theAnsar. The Prophet (peace be on him) came and asked, 'Did you send a singeralong with her?' 'No,' said 'Aishah. The Messenger of Allah (peace be on him) then said, The Ansar are a people who love poetry. You should have sent along someone who would sing, 'Here we come, to you we come, greet us as we greet you.' " (Reported by Ibn Majah.)
'Aishah narrated that during the days of Mina, on the day of 'Eid al-Adha, twogirls were with her, singing and playing on a hand drum. The Prophet (peacebe on him) was present, listening to them with his head under a shawl. Abu Bakr then entered and scolded the girls. The Prophet (peace be on him), uncovering his face, told him, "Let them be, Abu Bakr. These are the days of 'Eid." (Reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim.)
In his book, Ihya ulum al-deen, (In the quarter on "Habits", in the book Listening to Singing.), Imam al-Ghazzali mentions the ahadith about the singing girls, the Abyssinians playing with spears in the Prophet's Mosque, the Prophet's encouraging them by saying, "Carry on, O Bani Arfidah," his asking his wife, 'Aishah, "Would you like to watch?" and standing there with her until she herself became tired and went away, and 'Aishah's playing with dolls with her friends.

All these ahadith are reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim in the two Sahihs, and they clearly prove that singing and playing are not haram. Fromthem we may deduce the following:
First: The permissibility of playing; the Abyssinians were in the habit of dancing and playing.
Second: Doing this in the mosque.
Third: The Prophet's saying, 'Carry on, O Bani Arfidah,' was a command and a request that they should play; then how can their play be considered haram?
Fourth: The Prophet (peace be on him) prevented Abu Bakr and 'Umar from interrupting and scolding the players and singers. He told Abu Bakr that 'Eid was a joyous occasion and that singing was a means of enjoyment.
Fifth: On both occasions he stayed for a long time with 'Aishah, letting her watch the show of the Abyssinians and listening with her to the singing of the girls. This proves that it is far better to be good-humored in pleasing women and children with games than to express such disapproval of such amusements out of a sense of harsh piety and asceticism.
Sixth: The Prophet (peace be on him) himself encouraged 'Aishah by asking her, "Would you like to watch?" (Reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim.)
Seventh: The permissibility of singing and playing on the drum...and what follows, to the end of al-Ghazzali's discussion on singing.
It is reported that many Companions of the Prophet (may Allah be pleased with them) as well as second generation Muslim scholars used to listen to singing and did not see anything wrong with it. As for the ahadith which have been reported against singing, they are all weak and have been shown by researchers to be unsound. The jurist Abu Bakr al-'Arabi says, "No sound hadith is available concerning the prohibition of singing," while Ibn Hazm says, "All that is reported on this subject is false and fabricated "
However, since singing is in many cases associated with drinking parties and night clubs, many scholars have declared it to be haram or at least makruh. They state that singing constitutes that kind of idle talk which is mentioned in the ayah, And among the people is the one who buys idle talk (at the expense of his soul) in order to lead (people) astray from the path of Allah without knowledge, holding it in mockery; for such there will be a humiliating punishment. (31:6)
Says Ibn Hazm: This verse condemns a particular behavior, that of doing something to mock the path of Allah. Anyone who does this is an unbeliever; if he even should buy a copy of the Qur'an, doing so in order to make it the object of his mockery and thereby leading people astray, he would be an unbeliever. It is this type of behavior which is condemned by Allah and not the idle talk in which one may indulge for mere relaxation, without intending to lead people astray from the path of Allah.
Ibn Hazm also refutes the argument of those who say that since singing is not of "the truth" it must be of "error," referring to the verse, "And what is beyond the truth except error?" (10:32). He comments, The Messenger of Allah (peace be on him) said, 'Deeds will be judged according to intentions, and everyone will get what he intended.' (Reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) Accordingly, the one who listens to singing with the intention of using it in support of a sin is a sinner, and this holds true of anything other than singing (as well), while one who listens to singing with the intention of refreshing his soul in order to gain strength to do his duty toward Allah Ta'ala and to dogood deeds, is a good and obedient servant of Allah, and his action is of the truth. And he who listens to singing intending neither obedience nor disobedience is doing something neutral and harmless, whicis similar to going to the park and walking around, standing by a window and looking at the sky, wearing blue or green cloths, and so on.

However, there are some limitations to be observed in the matter of singing:
1. The subject matter of songs should not be against the teachings of Islam. For example, if the song is in praise of wine, and it invites people to drink, singing or listening to it is haram.
2. Although the subject matter itself may not be against the Islamic teachings, the manner of singing may render it haram; this would be the case, for example, if the singing were accompanied by suggestive sexual movement.
3. Islam fights against excess and extravagance in anything, even in worship; how, then, can it tolerate excessive involvement with entertainment? Too much time should not be wasted in such activities; after all, what is time but life itself? One cannot dispute the fact that spending time in permissible activities consumes time which ought to be resaved for carrying out religious obligations and doing good deeds. It is aptly said, "There is no excess except at the expense of a neglected duty."
4. Each individual is the best judge of himself. If a certain type of singing arouses one's passions, leads him towards sin, excites the animal instincts, and dulls spirituality, he must avoid it, thus closing the door to temptations.
5. There is unanimous agreement that if singing is done in conjunction with haram activitiesÂ—for example, at a drinking party, or if it is mixed with obscenity and sinÂ—it is haram. The Prophet (peace be on him) warned of a severe punishment for people who sing or listen to singing in such a situation when he said, Some people of my ummah will drink wine, calling it by another name, while they listen to singers accompanied by musical instruments. Allah will cause the earth to swallow them and will turn some of them into monkeys and swine. (Reported by Ibn Majah.) This does not mean that they will be physically transformed into the bodies and outward form of monkeys and swine but rather in heart and soul, carrying the heart of a monkey and the soul of a pig in their human bodies.

Steeler [Crawler2] · Post by **Steeler [Crawler2]** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:25 am

"And the Prophet (PBUH) was sitting listening to a tape of the East Street Band when Abu Bakr came in and, not recognizing Mohammed, said 'turn off that infernal music'." The Prophet then turned to him and said "Abu Bakr, do you not see that we are listening to The Boss? Now shut up, so I can enjoy this."

Pierre · Post by **Pierre** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:52 am

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Steeler [Crawler2] · Post by **Steeler [Crawler2]** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:14 am

The important thing coming out of this hadith is that it confirms the Prophet liked rock!

alisomal · Post by **alisomal** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:55 am

MAD MAc, you might think mocking the prophet is ok but WALLAHI IF YOU WERE IN PRESENCE I WOULD OF KICKED THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF YOU!!!!!!!!!. dont say of the prophet that which you are unaware of, the prophet(saw) said whoever makes a lie about me, let him prepare his seat in the HELLFIRE.

MUSIC IS HARRAM, the prophet stated clearly,

((Whoever introduces anything into this matter of ours (i.e. Islaam) that which is not from it, will have it rejected)), [Saheeh al-Bukhaaree/2697 and Saheeh Muslim/1718].

those who say its HALAAL HAVE NO BASIS, because the prophet(pbuh) has said it.

Hazrath Anas (R.A.) reports that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) said: “There will certainly be people from my Ummah who will attempt to legalize fornication, the wearing of silk (for males), the consuming of wine and the use of musical instruments” (Al-Jaamius Sagheer - Pg. 139). Indeed this prophesy of Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) is glaring before us. Despite the clear prohibition of the use of musical instruments, great efforts are being made to “legalize” their use. While some people wish to declare all music permissible, others are opening the door slowly by declaring that only the use of the “duff” is permissible. Thus it is necessary to examine the reality of these claims in the light of the Qur’an and Sunnah.

SO LETS FOLLOW AND OBEY THE TRUTH.
ALLAH KNOWS BEST

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