hypothetical scenario for a nuclear war.

[musika man]

scenario
some crazy dudes attacked with hand held suitcases nuclear weapons in a big city in america and killed hundered's thousands of people and these dudes got help from from president faisal of the takfiri republic. the question is, do america have the right to retaliate and attack the takfiri country and decimate it with nuclear weapons? how will the american action affect you?

[Bagamundo]

Fuc.k is you after, nigga?

[musika man]

[quote="Bagamundo"]Fuc.k is you after, nigga?[/quote]

^^^

no this hasn't happened yet. no nuclear war yet. do u think it will happen? if it happens, how will it affect u?

[musika man]

Bagamundo

^^^

stop there man. how did u manage to edit ur post and mine where i quoted u? this foking place is weird.

[*jr]

Though your question is hypothetical, this notion that non-state sponsored terrorism attack in America or anywhere else should result on attack on sovereign nation is uneccaptalbe. That type of pre-emptive war is not supported by the UN charter; wars are fought between nations, not pseudo-war where you suspect certain enemy is supported by suspected nation.

The UN Charter states:

1) WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS DETERMINED

"To save future generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind …


..."To ensure, by the acceptance of principles and the institution of methods, that armed force shall not be used, save in the common interest.
All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations."

That reads pretty clear, no?

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Even if you are able to get your hands on weapons grade plutonium, nuclear weapons are more difficult to produce than a lot of people think. And the smaller you want to make it, the more difficult it is to produce. And "suitcase" sized weapons are HUGE suitcases (not little samsonites) and they way a lot. Yes, they are man portable, with difficulty, but you are not going to fly on a commercial airliner with one.

However, to answer your question, I think it is very lively that our response would be quid pro quo. Particularly if the states concerned were, instead of nowhere, Iran or Syria. Of course, the leaders in those states are not fools, so they would not do this. What becomes more problematic is if an Al Qaeda affiliate acquires such a weapon and infiltrates it into down Manhattan and detonates it. Say the fissle material came from Russia - stolen material sold on the black market. Who do you hold accountable?

Such a scenerio could get ugly, quickly. We don't want to go there.

[*jr]

Mac
Truly we have seen many cenerious were the powers-be always used avenues in order to further their agenda ie; Gulf of Tonkin, Bay of Pigs, or this latest Iraq WMD, and many others that aren't aware of.

Indeed, powerful nations use secret and calculated operations for their own national interest to further their objectives....wouldn't you agree? And if such nation carries out such operation, what should be the response of the international community?

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

False flag operations are exceedingly rare in democracies. And the reason is simple. It's so hard to keep them secret.

secret operations are different. The participants are much more likely to understand and support the reason for secrecy (like the secret war in laos). But false flag operations..............very difficult to control.

The use of a nuclear weapon by a US agency to create a false flag.............which is what you are pointing at...........zero chance of that happening. Those who authorized such an operation and those who participated (and it would take quite a circle, given the complez\xity of what we are talking about) would be hung from the nearest yardarm is discovered and would be loathed and despised forever. And they would know it.

No, if it happens, you can be sure it would be Al Qaeda. Just like 9-11. They would want to up the stakes because they believe ultimately that there will be some sort of divine intervention on their behalf.

[*jr]

"False flag operations are exceedingly rare in democracies."

Mac,
Oh c'mon? False flag operations are the only way democracies can succeed on their secret operations. Its called freedom of the press, where you plant stories so others can believe it...and its total manipulation of the press and the public and its now normal practice of this current administration in Washington.