Is Al-Qaeda Behind 9-11?

[Grant]

Here is the preview on the Nova production:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/

[Ican]

What exactly were the benefits of 9/11 for America and those on the inside? PLummeting stock market after every terrorist threat, not to mention billions spent on Iraq and other anti-terrorist initiatives.

For companies who are profiting from this war, true they exploited the situation to their advantages, that does not however mean it was planned.

[Cawar]

Ican

If you want to know about this new project called PNAC (Project for the new American century)
and the benefits of 9/11...according to many here is an excerpt:


Among the key conclusions of PNAC's defense strategy document (Rebuilding America's Defenses) were the following [3]:

"Develop and deploy global missile defenses to defend the American homeland and American allies, and to provide a secure basis for U.S. power projection around the world."
"Control the new 'international commons' of space and 'cyberspace,' and pave the way for the creation of a new military service--U.S. Space Forces--with the mission of space control."
"Increase defense spending, adding $15 billion to $20 billion to total defense spending annually."
"Exploit the 'revolution in military affairs' [transformation to high-tech, unmanned weaponry] to insure the long-term superiority of U.S. conventional forces."
"Need to develop a new family of nuclear weapons designed to address new sets of military requirements" complaining that the U.S. has "virtually ceased development of safer and more effective nuclear weapons."
"Facing up to the realities of multiple constabulary missions that will require a permanent allocation of U.S. forces."
"America must defend its homeland" by "reconfiguring its nuclear force" and by missile defense systems that "counteract the effects of the proliferation of ballistic missiles and weapons of mass destruction."
"Need for a larger U.S. security perimeter" and the U.S. "should seek to establish a network of 'deployment bases' or 'forward operating bases' to increase the reach of current and future forces," citing the need to move beyond Western Europe and Northeast Asia to increased permanent military presence in Southeast Asia and "other regions of East Asia." Necessary "to cope with the rise of China to great-power status."
Redirecting the U.S. Air Force to move "toward a global first-strike force."
End the Clinton administration's "devotion" to the Anti-Ballistic Missile treaty.
"North Korea, Iran, Iraq, or similar states [should not be allowed] to undermine American leadership, intimidate American allies, or threaten the American homeland itself."
"Main military missions" necessary to "preserve Pax Americana" and a "unipolar 21st century" are the following: "secure and expand zones of democratic peace, deter rise of new great-power competitor, defend key regions (Europe, East Asia, Middle East), and exploit transformation of war."
According to the PNAC report, "The American peace has proven itself peaceful, stable, and durable. Yet no moment in international politics can be frozen in time: even a global Pax Americana will not preserve itself." To preserve this "American peace" through the 21st century, the PNAC report concludes that the global order "must have a secure foundation on unquestioned U.S. military preeminence." The report struck a prescient note when it observed that "the process of transformation is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event--like a new Pearl Harbor."

Many of PNAC's conclusions and recommendations are reflected in the White House's National Security Strategy document of September 2002, which reflects the "peace through strength" credo that shapes PNAC strategic thinking


http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?ti ... an_Century

[Ican]

They could've done all of that without 9/11, America even before 9/11 was in other countries illegally to help their dictators and safeguard their interests. Haiti, Panama etc.

[kambuli]

What is Alqaacida? I am confused here

[Grant]

Kambuli,

The poll offers two choices.

1. The collapse of the twin towers was caused by internal demolition charges planted on orders of the US government to create an excuse for a war on Islam. The damage to the Pentagon was caused by a missile. ( I am not sure how this choice accounts for flight 73...???)

2. The collapse of the twin towers was caused by heat from the burning aviation fuel from the two planes, which softened the metal supports to the point they collapsed under the weight of the top floors. Osama bin Laden stated that this result had been calculated when he took credit for it in the interview he gave honoring Mohammed Atta and the other hijackers of the total of four planes.

Alqaacida=Al-Qaeda=the OBL/Alzuwahiri group/faction/philosophy. It is a group in the same tradition and with the same goals as that of the blind sheik, Abdul Rahman, who began the twin towers project.

[kambuli]

Grant,

First I don't even want to think about conspiracy concerning the towers...This whole idea of ploting scares me

What I wanted to know was the meaning and origins of Alqaacida... I had the assumption that this guy Osama...had a big business in Sacuudi Arabia...long time ago and it was called Alqaacida...

[Madmadoobe]

Americans did it. Its possible they may have indirectly used some stupid Arabs without them even knowing.

[Grant]

Kambuli,

It is my understanding that Osama's father built the Haj complex in Mecca, among other major building projects for the Saudi govenment. I don't know what part Osama played in that, although it is clear he has an enginering background.

I believe Al Queda means "the base", with the idea of "foundation", in Arabic. I understand that it was intended as something the war against the Great Satan could be built on.

[kambuli]

Grant, quote " I understand that it was intended as something the war against the Great Satan could be built on."

Are you sure? And who is the Great Satan?

[Grant]

Kambuli,

It is difficult to be sure of anything these days. Do you have a different understanding?

[Madmadoobe]

^Lol, grant just tell her its USA man

[*Arabman]

[Americans did it. Its possible they may have indirectly used some stupid Arabs without them even knowing.]

Indeed, Americans did it, because the job was complex as it required precise execution. The Americans tried their best, but as most everyone knows, there's no perfect crime.

[Koronto91]

I have never heard or seen Osama admit that he was behind 9/11. Not once. The closest he ever came to admiting it was when he said was that it was about time to hit back at America for all of their injustices in the Muslim world.

[Grant]

Koronto,

I watched the interview video three times, when it was first broadcast and two repeats. And it's a part of at least one documentary. I don't see how you missed it.

He talks about the martyrs (who, by the way were also almost entirely engineers.)

He talks about how he had been congratulated for the damage to the tops of the towers, and how he had told those congratulating him to wait: there would be more. He said they had calculated what it would take to cause the collapse. They used locally originating flights to be sure there would be enough fuel on board.

There may well be a repeat of one of the documentaries, which should feature it, around 9/11.