Why are Hawadle and Ajuran considered to be Hawiye?

[Camel_herder]

[quote="The_Patriot"]Xawadle are Leillkase
They some how detest being called that I dont know why?
Maybe Coz they got status in Hawiye while if they claim to Leilkase they become Langaab with no status.(I have no disrespect to leilkase as they are the maternal mother of the largest ogaden Clan(Bah Tanaade-Maxamed Zubair & Cawliyahan.))

Ajuraan are Dir.[/quote]
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@ the Patriot, anaa kuwasa, sharmuutyahow midgaanka ah,

who the fock you calling laangaab, we are the royals of Darood mothafocka, a
aka Darbi Darood, aka "Gaasdhagoole"

what the fock are you?? just because we are not opsessed with politics and having constant meaningless fights does not mean we don't have numbers to back us up.

mothafocka, Leelkase live from Mudug, Nugaal, Bari, Kismaayo, Lower Shabeele, all the way to Somali region in Ethiopia....the "Korshe Leelkase" number in the hundreds of thousands walaahi,
and live in the greenest regions of Ethiopia.

bytch us faggot, don't ever mention our name, you focking retarded caghdeer, good for nothing midgaan.

ogaden have absolutely no significanse anywhere, even if they number into millions they always being abused and used, like a condom.


p.s. VIVA HAWAADLE VIVA LEELKASE VIVA MAREHAN VIVA ALL XALAASHA!

[Luq_Ganane]

Lelkasse, are one of the richest subclans in all of Somalia, and Goldodob is the fastest growing city in Somalia. They don't engage in trivial little battles, but their a formiddable clan (Darbi Darood).

VIVA Tanade Darood!

VIVA Muslimin!

[Faisah]

xawadle are our "hoosjoog"

[X-unit]

kids kids kids...why are you all making this out of a federal case....i say it doesn't all concern you...let us worry about who we are....We are the xaax people who are to fly to be in either catergory....There is no qabil that got sh!t on us.... 8) 8) 8)

[Alchemist]

Under the 4.5 formula Xawadle is under Hawiye and has the 3rd most seats. Probably the 3rd biggest qabil within Hawiye after Abgal and Habargidir.. Since Sayid barre's government till today whenever a government is made Hawadle are always counted as Hawiye..

[TheBigBosS]

darood dhilooyin claiming hawiye tribes as usual

xawaadle, ajuraan>>> hawiye

[Somaliweyn]

Alchemist,

The 4.5 formula is not representative of the real situation on the ground. Although Somali groups are equal since they are Somalis, you cannot say they are equal in size.

Hawiye is severly underrepresented.

How can a large clan like Abgaal have 11 seats while Southwestern have 14, and Northeastern have 12?

How can Ceyr and Sacad have each 3 seats while Udejeen has 3 seats?

This formula responded to the needs of warlords, opportunists and political prostitutes.

Powersharing in Somalia should never happen on the basis of clan, since no population census has been done. Instead region-based powersharing is a fair method.

[Alchemist]

[quote="Somaliweyn"]Alchemist,

The 4.5 formula is not representative of the real situation on the ground. Although Somali groups are equal since they are Somalis, you cannot say they are equal in size.

Hawiye is severly underrepresented.

How can a large clan like Abgaal have 11 seats while Southwestern have 14, and Northeastern have 12?

How can Ceyr and Sacad have each 3 seats while Udejeen has 3 seats?

This formula responded to the needs of warlords, opportunists and political prostitutes.

Powersharing in Somalia should never happen on the basis of clan, since no population census has been done. Instead region-based powersharing is a fair method.[/quote]


I agree with you 100% brother, the whole 4.5 formule is stupid idea if you ask me..

[The_Emperior5]

Gess who is idea it was


No one else but ismacil cumar geelle.

it should be more like thos

25 procent hawiye
25 procent jaberti
25 others
25 procent isaaq if they ever come back

[shidow1]