Somalis Are not Really nationalists........

[Luq_Ganane]

I read a report on Iraq, in which it talked about during the height of the humanitarian crisis there, which was pretty terrible huge extremely high capacity refugee camps were made ready in Syria/Jordan, and that extremely small amounts ended up coming, with most of the citizens in the famine zones in Iraq saying 'We're never leaving our country'. True wadanis Wallah.


If Iraq was filled with Somalis, they'd all be out of there.

[Metal]

Most Somalis left Somalia during the civil war because their homes were occupied. Iraqis aren't savage enough to steal their neighbors' homes when they have minor conflicts; give it a few months for things to turn down in certain places and they'll be back home. But I guess the Somalis who looted Xamar and other cities didn't really think that the cycle would continue for a few extra decades. Somalis have big foreheads, its time that they start using some FOREsight.

[Somalian_Boqor]

You are quite wrong my brother. There are alot of nationalists who love and die for Somali and Somlaia. There are alot of qabilists who think they are Nationalists this is popular with the MAREHANS.

REER PUNTLAND ARE THE MOST NATIONALISTS PEOPLE IN SOMALIA.

^^^THATS A FACT YOU CAN QUOTE ME ON THAT.

LOOK AT THE ISSAQ LOOK AT HAWIYE AND THAN LOOK AT THE REST OF DAROOD? WHAT HAVE THEY DONE FOR SOMLAIA IN THE LAST 17 YEARS?

ISAAQ SAID FOCKED TO SOMALIWEYN AND WENT FOR ISSAQLAND. HAWIYE WITH OUR CAPITAL CITY WENT FOR MOORYANIMO RATHER THAN SOMALINIMO. MAREHAN WENT WITH THE HAWIYE.

THE OG'S ONLY CARE ABOUT THEMSELVES.

[Somalian_Boqor]

LET'S NOT FORGET ABOUT EELAY. THEY SECOND REER PUNTLAND THEY ARE FULL OF NATIONALISTS AS WELL.

[Somalian_Boqor]

AS FOR OUR DIR BROTHERS THEY WERE LOST IN WHAT WAS GOING ON IN SOUTH SOMALIA TO CARE!

THE .4 LOST HOPE.

[Metal]

Somalian_Boqor,

Nothing in Somalia has changed since the first ringing bell of the civil war. Nothing. 17 years and not one inch of Somalia has basic food security. From Awdal to Lower Jubba, everyone is under humanitarian monitoring. If the UN left their offices in Hargeisa, Garoowe, and every other city in Somalia, the entire country would have the most severe humanitarian emergency recorded in the last 500 years, no joke wallahi. Somalia already set the record for humanitarian catastrophe in 1993.

http://www.fsausomalia.org/fileadmin/uploads/1076.pdf


Without an official government that controls all 18 regions with full power, Somalia is not a safe place for a sane man to sleep.

[Luq_Ganane]

Metal,

Why are you acting like Daaroods were the only ones who fled? Heck theres as much Hawiye in qurbaha as there are Daaroods. You can only survive on looted goods for so long, before they turn stale, plus Hawiye were not able to enjoy the fruits for 1 minute as they started attacking each other with BM rockets, and motars within the city, and in other areas in the Hawiye civil war. Everybody from every clan left Somalia, sxb, and thats where I found the revelency. Also don't think I was undermining the exodous of legitiamate Somalis in the early '90s, or the sad humanitarian state of Somalis therein but I was being more general.


Somali Boqor,

No lie, I the first sentance of your first response before I addressed Metal's logical points.

[Luq_Ganane]

Metal,

However you have a point when you say that Somali (Cough Hutu) savagry and uncivilized nature is nothing to compare to noble respectable Iraqis.

[Metal]

Luq, when I made my first comment I meant that all Somalis lacked foresight during the civil war and some of those actions forced many people to never look back. In Iraq, there is some sense of law and standard set when engaging in violent military acts, like the rule of avoiding indiscriminate property destruction--and if that line is crossed, the communities must pay for the damages done, some war veterans in Iraq have told me about how Shia and Sunnis have monetary retribution, not violent retribution and how the US government pays both communities when missiles hit their areas.

I hope that explains why Somalis are less willing to stay in their own country, less so than other nationalities. This doesn't even concern Iraqis alone; many Rwandans and Ugandans returned home after the war, with absolutely no intention of going too far from their Congolese refugee camps--they were determined to return.

[Af_libaax]

Luq_Ganane

Iraqs are No different from the Somalis, they butcher each other worst than somalis even some of their neigbors which used to be mixed has been cleansed as seperate ethnic sects , except those Northern Kurds who are Not Arabs and that is where Somalis inherented from the bad culture of Qabiilism , take yourself example you believe Marehan interest more than Somalia or your faith .

even the previuos somali government the main reason they collapsed was lack of nationalism , too much of favoritism & nepotism -Siyad Barre built his clan for the expense of all Somalis ,After that Hawiye robbed the rest of Somalis and couldn't differentiate Xaq & Xaran paying the price , but if You think other somalis are doing different from what has happened , You are deadly wrong , Majerteen are using foreign interests to loot the rest of somalis , Marehans are robbing Jobboying brought daylight you telling the houses Ilkoyar occuppied is yours .

listen what is happining today is just raising the bar of hatred in somalia into deeper holes ,.

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[Somalian_Boqor]

^^^"Majerteen are using foreign interests to loot the rest of somalis"

Don't look at the little I get out of returning dowlad to the heart of Somalia.

just remember at the end of the day a bad Government is better than no government. And in Somalia any sort of Government is better than no Government!!!

[Somalian_Boqor]

[quote="Metal"]Somalian_Boqor,

Nothing in Somalia has changed since the first ringing bell of the civil war. Nothing. 17 years and not one inch of Somalia has basic food security. From Awdal to Lower Jubba, everyone is under humanitarian monitoring. If the UN left their offices in Hargeisa, Garoowe, and every other city in Somalia, the entire country would have the most severe humanitarian emergency recorded in the last 500 years, no joke wallahi. Somalia already set the record for humanitarian catastrophe in 1993.

http://www.fsausomalia.org/fileadmin/uploads/1076.pdf


Without an official government that controls all 18 regions with full power, Somalia is not a safe place for a sane man to sleep.[/quote]

Alot in Somalia has changed over the years except humanitarian crisis in most parts of the country.

your last sentence I strongly agree with and inshallah it will happen we are at 15 regions that are some what under the control of our official government.

[Somali_4Life]

Somalis were never nationalists or civilized,for the matter of fact they were just lowly race,big in numbers but big in stupidity.
MSB,the tyrant is portrayed as civilized nationalist. He was far away from being nationalist or civilized because he didnt share power(he believed that his subclan should be the rulers forever,is this a civilized way of sharing power?) nor did he stop from killing other somalis(killing your brothers is barbarism),look how barbaric the qaldaans were slaughterd and look how the hutus lived in jails or places where trash is dumped.
The somalis have achieved little since they occupied SOMALIA.
Even during the ''glory days'' of stabilized somalia didnt change the fact that somalia was one of the poorest and dumbest country in the world.

Because of all these reasons: SOMALIA IS A FAILURE STATE THANKS TO 1 ETHNIC GROUP WHO ARE NOT FAMOUS FOR THEIR INTELLIGENCE NOR FAMOUS FOR BEING ''PEACE MAKERS''.

[Twisted_Logic]

[quote="Somali_4Life"]Somalis were never nationalists or civilized,for the matter of fact they were just lowly race,big in numbers but big in stupidity.
MSB,the tyrant is portrayed as civilized nationalist. He was far away from being nationalist or civilized because he didnt share power(he believed that his subclan should be the rulers forever,is this a civilized way of sharing power?) nor did he stop from killing other somalis(killing your brothers is barbarism),look how barbaric the qaldaans were slaughterd and look how the hutus lived in jails or places where trash is dumped.
The somalis have achieved little since they occupied SOMALIA.
Even during the ''glory days'' of stabilized somalia didnt change the fact that somalia was one of the poorest and dumbest country in the world.

Because of all these reasons: SOMALIA IS A FAILURE STATE THANKS TO 1 ETHNIC GROUP WHO ARE NOT FAMOUS FOR THEIR INTELLIGENCE NOR FAMOUS FOR BEING ''PEACE MAKERS''.[/quote]

Stupid logic! MSB(AUN) was a true patriot before the 1977 war. only after the back-stabbers aideed and abdullahi yusuf introduced the clan-card in somali politics did MSB fall for their tricks. Plus under MSB, somalia was the MOST POWERFUL country in terms of military power in sub-saharan Africa. If you want to blame some-one blame the men who betrayed their country by allowing Somalia to crumble simply to advance some petty clan agenda. The demise of the somali republic rests on the shoulders of Aideed and Abdullahi Yusuf. If you cant admit that simple fact am afraid you are delusional!

[Somali_4Life]

[quote="Twisted_Logic"][quote="Somali_4Life"]Somalis were never nationalists or civilized,for the matter of fact they were just lowly race,big in numbers but big in stupidity.
MSB,the tyrant is portrayed as civilized nationalist. He was far away from being nationalist or civilized because he didnt share power(he believed that his subclan should be the rulers forever,is this a civilized way of sharing power?) nor did he stop from killing other somalis(killing your brothers is barbarism),look how barbaric the qaldaans were slaughterd and look how the hutus lived in jails or places where trash is dumped.
The somalis have achieved little since they occupied SOMALIA.
Even during the ''glory days'' of stabilized somalia didnt change the fact that somalia was one of the poorest and dumbest country in the world.

Because of all these reasons: SOMALIA IS A FAILURE STATE THANKS TO 1 ETHNIC GROUP WHO ARE NOT FAMOUS FOR THEIR INTELLIGENCE NOR FAMOUS FOR BEING ''PEACE MAKERS''.[/quote]

Stupid logic! MSB(AUN) was a true patriot before the 1977 war. only after the back-stabbers aideed and abdullahi yusuf introduced the clan-card in somali politics did MSB fall for their tricks. Plus under MSB, somalia was the MOST POWERFUL country in terms of military power in sub-saharan Africa. If you want to blame some-one blame the men who betrayed their country by allowing Somalia to crumble simply to advance some petty clan agenda. The demise of the somali republic rests on the shoulders of Aideed and Abdullahi Yusuf. If you cant admit that simple fact am afraid you are delusional![/quote]
I tell you names of uncivilized f u c k ers who destroyed somalia:

1 MSB,his dream of making marexaar the ultimate supreme leaders
2 Aideed,his dream of wipping faqash off the map(i would support him if he also wanted to destroy 80% of hawiye for they are also animals!)
3 Ali Mahdi,the dumbest person in somali history,and he wanted to become president?" Badar iyo Naafto somali u baahantahay"
4 the barbaric A/Y,his goal to take revange.

Infact,those from SYL who wanted to make somalia a civilized country(Nationalism,Peace and Stability) were clanbased fools.Read books,boy.

Is it not painful to see somalia from 14 century till now: NOT UNITED.
You are talking about patriotism while you yourself support Nur Madowe,the puppetPM of ethiopia?