Traitor Dheere bombards civilians!

[xaseey]

[quote="Hassan_Al_Basri01"][quote="xaseey"][quote="Hassan_Al_Basri01"][quote="Luq_Ganane"]Somaliweyn,

So you think neopitism was one clan based in Somalia? How many Hawiye put money in their pockets through control of some of the ministries? Corruption is corruption, and it became more and more widespread as the State was falling apart. You're really not too bright if you think that one clan stole money. Anyways lets discuss teh corruption during your own Aaden Cadde's (AUN) rule, where businessmen from different clans were suppressed, and some people even had travel bans and no passports. Why do you think MSB had full 100% support? That being said let me use your logic: I would rather be a second class citizen with Caydid aun, as president but live in an actual Somali State then live with no Government. Being an Abgal under the 'dictatorship' would be a million times better for you, instead of foruming from Canada, Europe or wherever the heck you are because of being a refugee. Please use your brain as you're not mentally retarded. [/quote]

Brother,rebellion against rulers creates fitan: more bloodshed,rufugees,more hatred.
This is the problem that we as muslims today face.
Let the ruler kill us,bombard us. We have no right to defend ourselves against unjust ruler as long he is muslim.If we defend ourselves,we will break the command of prophet Muhammad pbuh to Hudayfa:obey your rulers even if he beats your back,steals your wealth.[/quote]





laxdaan waalan intee laga soo daayey ,,since last night intaan uun buu kusoo celinaayey[/quote]


You laugh and ignore the facts about what has become of us when we rebelled against our rulers. While i cry,may Allah guide us![/quote]



guide us to where ,,xabsiyada ethiopia

meel aan kuu raacaayo malahan dhulka i dhig

[Twisted_Logic]

With that lets end the discussion. It is past its purpose

[Emperor_kuzco]

Ethiopia which is a Dictatorship state, one of the poorest nations on this planet, and has a gruesome human rights abuse record wants to bring peace and stability to Somalia? The warlords who were destroying Somalia for 16 years are the leaders that will stabilize the nation, the same ones who are to blame for the killing and destruction of Somalia till today? The obstinate folly of the idiot’s mental thinking.

It is a known fact that the only group which brought some amount of peace and stability to Mogadishu was the ICU. Tribalist individuals could make falsified statements all they like. Evil-infested brain dead animals that support half-evolved monkeys to lead them to salvation can beguile themselves all they like, but you aren’t fooling no one but yourselves.

Every tribe in Somalia suffered, those holding up the clan-card as a justification to terrorize other people are worse than the people they accuse of committing crimes.

Those Hitler has abused have become serious abusers (Jews) today and today you could see some Somalis who are repeating the cycle of violence as if to conciliate the psychological breakdown they went through. Every Somali was a victim, as was my family and I, but I don’t hold long-term grudges that will blacken my heart and hate for the sake of hating.

Grow-up people or seek mental help. If anyone reads what some of you guys write, they will think that a bunch of barbaric creatures who are demonic possessed are expressing their inner emotional hate and spew it on the net.

[Twisted_Logic]

[quote="Emperor_kuzco"]Ethiopia which is a Dictatorship state, one of the poorest nations on this planet, and has a gruesome human rights abuse record wants to bring peace and stability to Somalia? The warlords who were destroying Somalia for 16 years are the leaders that will stabilize the nation, the same ones who are to blame for the killing and destruction of Somalia till today? The obstinate folly of the idiot’s mental thinking.

It is a known fact that the only group which brought some amount of peace and stability to Mogadishu was the ICU. Tribalist individuals could make falsified statements all they like. Evil-infested brain dead animals that support half-evolved monkeys to lead them to salvation can beguile themselves all they like, but you aren’t fooling no one but yourselves.

Every tribe in Somalia suffered, those holding up the clan-card as a justification to terrorize other people are worse than the people they accuse of committing crimes.

Those Hitler has abused have become serious abusers (Jews) today and today you could see some Somalis who are repeating the cycle of violence as if to conciliate the psychological breakdown they went through. Every Somali was a victim, as was my family and I, but I don’t hold long-term grudges that will blacken my heart and hate for the sake of hating.

Grow-up people or seek mental help. If anyone reads what some of you guys write, they will think that a bunch of barbaric creatures who are demonic possessed are expressing their inner emotional hate and spew it on the net.[/quote]

OMG He Just nailed the coffin!

[GENERAL_SNM]

To be honest Hawyie politics is confusing because simple things are complicated to the extent they don't resemble what they started from. Take this topic for example its simple is Dheere a traitor?
Is a man who is Hawyie who Kills Hawyies for a president who is not Hawyie a traitor.
M Dheere is the cancer that eats away at Hawyie progress people like him need to be eradicated for Hawyie reconciliation and finally Hawyie unity.As long as people like him exist within Hawyie their enemies will rejoice......

And for the man who agrees with M Dheer's actions and claims to be Hawyie .......Shame on you
I am not Hawyie but as a somali as human i don agree with whats going on in xammer innocent people being killed and made homeless and before you blame the UIC.We witness what they achieved in xammer in a short time.You think the ends justify means.

[Af_libaax]

Twisted_logic

Listen there is no dispute the power struggle between Ali & Aydid was dark page of somali history and it effected deeply both brethren communities and in generally greater Somalis , but its worthless to prolong that tragedy what is going on today .

Today you have the Warlords who rip apart Somalia for seventeen years , A/yusuf , Abdi Qayrdid , Salaad Jeelle , Qanyare , Mohamed dheere , Osman Atto , Musse Suudi , Morgan Hersi etc as head of state and parliament members , who are under Ethiopian protection sponsered by American proxy war . so tell me mr Twisted_logic and be honest who would you prefer today as leader Sheikh Sharif Ahmed or Mohamed Dheere as Mudullood man ?


.Ps remember Mohamed Dheere during the heydays of Aydid & Ali Nafto , he was under Salbalaar Gov'nmt ! Aydid appointed him as a Benadir Governor

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[Gamadid.]

Aflibaax, Twisted_Logic waqtiga ha isaga lumin. Waa khashin.



And I see the hypocrite is still at it abusing and misusing Allah's book. This is how low the Amxaaro ilk stooped.

[Luq_Ganane]

I'm not even into the multiple nick conspiricy theories but I have a strong feeling Af Libax equals Somaliweyn bringing a "different perspective".

[King-of-Awdal]

Funny Thread.

[Somaliweyn]

Traitor-dheere underestimates our intellect, the moron thinks we are his blind supporters.

A day before the massacre, his website was saying we need to clear businesses in Bakaaraha market because they support the resistance,

http://www.gobolkabanaadir.com/view.php?id=579

Day after this, his moryan militia fire hoobiye mortars at the place and kill more then 20 civilians and more then 50 wounded. All mortars landed near xawaalado, iyo telecom service entreprises.

Day after the massacre, Traitor-dheere denies involvement in the massacre and puts the fault into the shoes of the resistance.

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Max'ed Dhere "Kuwa Dowladda ka soo horjeeda ayaa ka dambeeya Madaafiicda



Gudoomiyaha Gobolka Banaadir ahna Duqa Magaalada Muqdisho Maxamed Dheere ayaa ku eedeeyay Kooxaha Dowladda ka soo horjeeda in ay ka mas'uul yihiin Madaafiicdii shalay lagu weeraray Suuqa Bakaaraha. Maxamed Dheere ayaa beeniyay in Madaafiicda Bakaaraha ku dhacday aysan Dowladdu wax mas'uuliyad ah ku leh, balse waxa uu weerarkaas ku tilmaamay mid ay ka dambeeyeen Kooxaha Dowladda ka soo horjeeda sida uu hadalka u dhigay. "Waxa Madaafiicda dadka ku leynaya waa kuwa Dowladda ka soo horjeeda oo doonaya in shacabka kiciyaan"ayuu yiri Maxamed Dheere

http://www.mareeg.com/news.php?sid=4117




A coward, traitor indeed. As I said, the man is a ruthless opportunist willing to kill his own mother and then blame the resistance!

[Somaliweyn]

Luq, do not waste your time into who's who game.

Your precious time is needed to defend ''the Glorious, Revolutionary Father of the Nation''

:arrow:http://www.somalinet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=264&t=120042


Put your time into more productive entreprise.

[Somaliweyn]

Ethiopians involved in the cowardly bombing of Mogadishu civilians":

Xiisado saaka ka taagan Muqdisho iyo Madaafiic ku habsanaya Xaafado qaar




Xiisad kacsanaan ayaa saaka laga dareemayaa Magaalada Muqdisho, iyadoo xaafadaha qaarna ay ku dhacayaan Madaafiic Habow ah.



Ciidamada Ethiopia ayaa saaka Madaafiic ku bilaabay Xaafado ka tirsan Degmooyinka Yaaqshiid iyo Huriwaa, iyadoona Madaafiicdas qaarkood ay ku dhaceen Goobo dad rayid ah degan yihiin.

Ilaa Labo Habeen ayaa ilaa iyo iminka la xaqiijiyay in ay ku dhinteen Madaafiic ku dhacday Xaafadaha Yaaqshiid iyo Huriwaa.



Ciidamada Ethiopianka ee gabalka ugu dhacay goobihii shalay dagaalada ka dhaceen ayaa la tilmaamayaa in weeraro lagu qaaday, taasoo ay dhankoodana madaafiicda BM-ka ku jawaabayaan, sida ilo wareedyo laga helayo



Sidoo kale Deegaanka Carafaat guri ku yaal iyo Garaash weyn ayaa laga soo sheegayaa in ay gubanayaan, kadib markii Madaafiic dhowr ah ay ku habsadeen.



Waxaa aad u yar ogaanshaha qasaarooyinka kala duwan ee geysanayaan Madaafiicda saaka ku bilaabatay xaafado qaar, iyadoo ay xataa adkaan karto in dadka ku waxyeelooba Madaafiicda loola cararo Cusbitaalada, bacdamaa isu socodka dadka iyo gaadiidka uu yahay mid xaniban meelaha qaar, ayna dhici karto in qofka uu dhaawac soo gaaro uu u dhinto dhiig bax.



Magaalada Muqdisho ayaa maanta oo jimco ah ay hareysay sawaxanka Madaafiicdak Fooriyaha ee BM-ka ah, taasoo hugunkiisa Magaalada oo idil ay isla wada gariireyso marka uu dhaco.


http://www.mareeg.com/news.php?sid=4122

[Somaliweyn]

Tuesday, December 18, 2007

At least 12 people have been killed as mortars landed in parts of the Somali capital, Mogadishu, witnesses say.
A mother and her three children were among the dead, their neighbour said. Fifty people were wounded, doctors say.
The shelling follows clashes between Ethiopian-backed government forces and insurgents, in which two people died.
Ethiopia last week denied accusations it had shelled the busy Bakara market, killing 17 people, but correspondents say only Ethiopia has the capability.

"Mortars and heavy artillery shells rained down on our district and then the Ethiopians and the government forces moved in, where they set up new bases," said Jolaal Ahmed, a resident of the north-eastern Suqa-holaha area.

Police spokesman Col Abdulahi Shasha denied that pro-government forces had carried out the shelling.

He said the troops were after insurgent fighters, who have been orchestrating daily attacks from the area.

Traders accused

Earlier, a shell landed on a restaurant in Bakara market, killing two people.

The BBC's Mohammed Olad Hassan in Mogadishu says the government has accused businessmen in the market of supporting the insurgents.

Ethiopia helped the government end the Union of Islamic Courts' (UIC) six-month rule over large parts of southern Somalia, a year ago.

Ethiopia, and the US, accused the UIC of links to al-Qaeda but this was denied by UIC leaders.

After the relative stability of the UIC rule, Mogadishu has once again been turned into a battleground.
Some one million people have fled their homes, including 60% of Mogadishu's population, the United Nations says.
Ethiopia says it wants to withdraw its troops, but only when they are replaced by peacekeepers.

So far only 1,600 Ugandan peacekeepers have been sent to Somalia, of a planned 8,000-strong force.
Somalia has not had a functioning national government since 1991.

Source: BBC, December 18, 2007


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Reports are getting more clear. The shells used to bombard civilians were heavy artillery shells and tank shells. Only the Ethiopians have that.