Shia are they muslims for real??

[Cawar]

I am almost inclined to call them not muslims...the more I learn about them , the more I think of them as non muslims...if not worst than the gaal themselves.




Not only are they insulting Aisha, Abubakr and Omar RA...but they are implying that the prophet himself was wrong in marrying Aisha..then what the whole point in believing him..as a sacred person and a chosen one..if God didnt care of him??

[Dhers]

There on the wrong path may Allah guide them and all of us insha Allah. Insulting the sahabas and sahabiyaat subhan Allah!!!

[VainChick]

I don't consider them real muslims... they do waduu differently they pray different they use a rock and cut themselves during muhariim... some of them dont even go to Mecca for Hajj they go to Iran

[Twisted_Logic]

I thought any-one who says the shahadha is a Muslim? When did we start determining who is a Muslim and who is not?

[Cawar]

TL,
Did you even attempt to watch the video??

And if you did ...what do you describe that shia claim of Aisha,Omar and Abubakr(whom the prophet CSW) said he is the best muslim on this earth after him(in terms of good deeds)..going to hell??

[Unclebin-]

Rafidhi shia are a deviant sect.

[Koronto91]

Anyone who disbelieves any part of Prophet Muhammad (saw) is a Murtad according to the Qur'an. Some Shi'as fall under this category.

[Twisted_Logic]

[quote="Cawar"]TL,
Did you even attempt to watch the video??

And if you did ...what do you describe that shia claim of Aisha,Omar and Abubakr(whom the prophet CSW) said he is the best muslim on this earth after him(in terms of good deeds)..going to hell??[/quote]

I didn't watch the vide, but if my memory serves me right, there are numerous schools of thought within Shia Islam, and some of them are extremely different from Sunnism. For example, most Shia's believe that the first 3 caliphs were usurpers of power and that Ali should have become the Caliph after the death of the Prophet(PBUH). Most Shia's I know, curse the first 3 caliphs especially Omar and Abu Bakar. Some Shia's even believe the notion that the Islamic religion was initially meant for Ali and that Gabriel made a mistake! Either way, any-one would consider majority of the Shias Muslims for the simple fact that they say " There is no God but God and that Muhammed (PBUH) was the prophet and messenger of God.

[fisabililah]

Like Imaam malik said "those who revile the companions have no share in islam", as for them pronouncing the Kalimah then this is meanigless. And we judge people by their actions. And just as there are validaors of Islam like salah, there are things which invalidate them like statements of Kufr.

And no one insults Abu Bakr or Umar and Aisha (raialahu anhu aj'maeen) except a kafir.