The key to the Kaaba has sold at auction in London

[Unclebin-]

[quote="AbdiWahab252"]There is a political significance of stopping Mowlid, and Siyaaro.

At a Siyaaro, it is the one time that all members of a group can get together and meet. The Saudis banned the Mowlidka Nabiga (SCW) to prevent Rer Qureysh from meeting together and plotting the overthrow of the House of Saud.[/quote]


Ziyaaro is shirk.... You can not ask anybody in no grave for intercession....

Mawlid.. Is a bid'ca created by fatimid Shi'a who overly exaggerate ahlul bayt including the prophet Sallalahu alayhi wa salaam.

[eternauta]

Ziyaaro is shirk.... You can not ask anybody in no grave for intercession....

Mawlid.. Is a bid'ca created by fatimid Shi'a who overly exaggerate ahlul bayt including the prophet Sallalahu alayhi wa salaam.

Let's remember the prophet (salalaahu calayhi wasalam) advised his daughter that he (Allah's messenger and prophet) cannot help her nor intercede on her behalf, and that only her deeds can help her. Can anyone post that advice of the prophet (salalaahu calayhi wasalam) to his daughter? Thanks.

[Koronto91]

I noticed even Surria was accused of being a "Wahaabi" in this thread, anyone who points out the obvious is automatically branded a "Wahaabi" as if that derogative & disrespectful name to a pious man who died close to 150 years ago carries any weight.

My advice to the self-proclaimed "Sufis" on this forum: Learn to have respect for dead Muslims, learn to have respect for yourselves & your religion by ceasing the use of the same old washed-out cliches the Kuffaar use to mock your fellow Muslims.

[Shilling]

Ziyaaro is shirk.... You can not ask anybody in no grave for intercession....

Wahaabis put forward the ayat, "Kill polytheists wherever you find them," as a reason, want to kill Muslims and plunder their possessions. Quoting the hadiths condemning those who worship trees, stones or graves, they say that it is polytheism or disbelief to visit graves.

It is certainly polytheism to regard a stone, a tree or an unknown grave as a means of blessing. But it is stupidity and ignorance to liken to it visiting the graves of the prophets (pbuh) and awliya (rahimahum-Allahu ta'ala) with the intention of getting enlightenment and blessings from Allahu ta'ala. Moreover, it is to set disunion among Muslims to accuse millions of Muslims -because of this- of disbelief and polytheism.

Mawlid.. Is a bid'ca created by fatimid Shi'a who overly exaggerate ahlul bayt including the prophet Sallalahu alayhi wa salaam.

Shaykh al Islam, the (greatest) hafiz of his time, Abu l-Fadl ibn Hajar (al-Asqalani) was asked about the observance of the mawlid, to which he literally answered the following: 'it comprises both good things as well as the reverse. If one strives for good things in the practising thereof and the opposite is evaded, it is a good innovation. If not, then not.'

So I doubt anything that involves our prophet (pbuh) could be considered evil innovation.

[The_Emperior5]

There is a political significance of stopping Mowlid, and Siyaaro.

At a Siyaaro, it is the one time that all members of a group can get together and meet. The Saudis banned the Mowlidka Nabiga (SCW) to prevent Rer Qureysh from meeting together and plotting the overthrow of the House of Saud.

Ziyaaro is shirk.... You can not ask anybody in no grave for intercession....

Mawlid.. Is a bid'ca created by fatimid Shi'a who overly exaggerate ahlul bayt including the prophet Sallalahu alayhi wa salaam.

How about siyaarada nabbiga when u go to medina Masjid al nabawi u visit muhammad mosque and grave at the same time and also his 3 companions umar uthmaan and abu bakr thats siyaarada if it was haraam u woudent visit masjid al nabaawi during hadji

the holl islam i sbased on allah muhammad and the kuran the hadith and the kuran is the base of islam hadith what muhammad said and the kuran what allah says

muhammad was born in mecca his grandfater abdulmutaliib went 7th times around the kaa aaba with muhammad in his arms thats why muslims go 7th times around the kaaba during the hadji becous of muhammad Birth prophet muhammad usd to fast on a monday the day he was born.
I Know the wahabi eachings believe that muhammads parents are in helfire balnimanka caqligooda eeg his fathers name was
ABDULLAH SLAVE OF ALLAH MUHHAMMAD IBN CABDULLAH

[Unclebin-]

[quote="Shilling"][quote="Unclebin-"]Ziyaaro is shirk.... You can not ask anybody in no grave for intercession....[/quote]

Wahaabis put forward the ayat, "Kill polytheists wherever you find them," as a reason, want to kill Muslims and plunder their possessions. Quoting the hadiths condemning those who worship trees, stones or graves, they say that it is polytheism or disbelief to visit graves.

It is certainly polytheism to regard a stone, a tree or an unknown grave as a means of blessing. But it is stupidity and ignorance to liken to it visiting the graves of the prophets (pbuh) and awliya (rahimahum-Allahu ta'ala) with the intention of getting enlightenment and blessings from Allahu ta'ala. Moreover, it is to set disunion among Muslims to accuse millions of Muslims -because of this- of disbelief and polytheism.

[quote]Mawlid.. Is a bid'ca created by fatimid Shi'a who overly exaggerate ahlul bayt including the prophet Sallalahu alayhi wa salaam.[/quote]

Shaykh al Islam, the (greatest) hafiz of his time, Abu l-Fadl ibn Hajar (al-Asqalani) was asked about the observance of the mawlid, to which he literally answered the following: 'it comprises both good things as well as the reverse. If one strives for good things in the practising thereof and the opposite is evaded, it is a good innovation. If not, then not.'

So I doubt anything that involves our prophet (pbuh) could be considered evil innovation.[/quote]


Wahhabis who? You read deviant sufi forums who lie about the great sheik....

You cannot ask those in the grave for enlightment for they are DEAD.... Past people took the graves of there pious people as area's of worship.....



Second of all Ibn Hajar lived 850 years after the prophet.....

When did innovating in religion become the new fad?
The prophe SAW said Wa kulla bid'ca dalala wa kulla dalalla fin naar.

"EVERY INNOVATION IS MISGUIDANCE AND EVERY MISGUIDANCE IS IN HELL"

The Sahaba never celebrated the prophets birthday.... nor the tabi'een nor the atba'tab'ieen nor the 4 fiqhi imams nor any scholars in the first three centuries.... Fatimid Egypt (SHIA RULED) started this bid'ca and they shi'a are never to be copied.... they draw pictures of Imam ali and his sons (Radiya'allahu anhuma)

are they to be copied.... Do not hold bias sxb.... Follow the truth