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Re: Somaliland/Puntland people & SNM fighters support ONLF!!!
Xamud thanks now we understood each other.
im not defending or eccusing any one here.
im just telling you dad badan need to make living and only doing service jobs.
the president of ogaden region as i tell you wa ogaden and he's worse enemy to onlf.
my self they jailed me in jigjiga when i was 15.lol
the ones gaariga iga so dajiyey were somalis not ethiopians.
so im first hand experienced.
the onlf leader adeer mahammed omar is awlyahan.
he was admiral in somali marine before somali government gone 1991.
im not defending or eccusing any one here.
im just telling you dad badan need to make living and only doing service jobs.
the president of ogaden region as i tell you wa ogaden and he's worse enemy to onlf.
my self they jailed me in jigjiga when i was 15.lol
the ones gaariga iga so dajiyey were somalis not ethiopians.
so im first hand experienced.
the onlf leader adeer mahammed omar is awlyahan.
he was admiral in somali marine before somali government gone 1991.
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Re: Somaliland/Puntland people & SNM fighters support ONLF!!!
No1 / cidii aad isku fikrad noqon waydaan ba haddaad tidhaado magaca ayuu inaga xaday waa khatar !!yawle wrote:Who is this foolish trying to fool? The closes he can be to being an Isaaq is the fact that this Cagdheer fool most likely is a Reer Hargeisa. That is the closest he could be to becoming an Isaaq.somaliscarface wrote:-------About time we help our somali and muslim brothers gaalos down occupation down lol anyways somalis we need to unite ruunti geesiyaal and raganimo loo bahanyahey thats what time it is.
future of the coming generations as our forefathers did.
By Ahmed Ali (Somalidoon)
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WATCH UR SOMALI UNITY VIDEO
There have been a number of letters published in Somali websites against ONLF and its legitimate struggle. I can understand some concerns of decent Somalis who want to unite the Somali clans under the Ethiopian colonialism. But there are many who disguise their intention with excuse after excuse, just to spread distrust among us. They know who they serve; it is the common men of Somali descend that severs at their expense.
Do not jump to our mistakenly and hasty conclusion. I am Isaaq and I fought against the rotten government of the late dictator as SNM fighter. I succeeded and was delighted to see Somalia without Siyad. I am in borderline now, to evaluate my short lived success and the black future for all Somalis in the horizon. I love Somaliland free and independent. But not at the expense of my fellowmen in the Ogaden. I do not equally like my brothers to be slaughtered in Mogadishu, nor do I believe in the fictitious war between Somaliland and Putland over Sool. All serve no purpose, than to mitigate all of us into feeble cantons under the paws of the so called lion of Judah.
Many of you expressed your dislike of the name Ogden. I too do not like as it connotes a clan name. However, it is a historical and geographical name that existed centuries. Rather than folding our hands to help ONLF because of the name, we have to join, and then demand the change of the name. Though there are nearly the same numbers of Isaaqis in Somali zone as in Somaliland, you rarely find an Isaaq protesting Ethiopian occupation of his land. The same goes to Gadabursi, Issas, Dhulbahante and Gurgure.
Because of our nature of clannish and short sighted inter-clan rivalry, we lost our national identity. We lost the most precious thing a nation is proud of: our common culture, language, religion and shared history. We accepted the colonial division of our nation. We call ourselves Somalilanders, Somali Ethiopian, Somali Kenyan, Djiboutian and Somalipuntlander, Somali South and so on.
I just returned from Hargeysa and saw Ethiopian cultural invasion. It is a silent colonialism. The Ethiopian Ambassador in Hargeysa acts like the statesman. He officially opens projects, holds meetings with government and opposition at will!
Let us build on what is working to liberate us from the hegemony of Ethiopians who are always aided by the West, but moreover by our disunity. Do not seek demise of ONLF from outset, join and strength their force. Let all clans in the region, who suffer equally, demand their rights. Divided we will suffer. My fellow Somalilanders, think and remember History!
Hawd and Reserve area were part of so called Somaliland. The area is bigger than our Somaliland, pastorally better and we cannot survive if their border is sealed up. That can happen any time as we gave into Ethiopian domination even in our Hargeisa. If we maintain our head under soil, a day will come when we will fight not to liberate Jigjiga, Gaashaamo, Shiniile, Dhagaxbuur and Ferfer, but Hargeisa and Buroa.
Think about the future! Do not be blinded by the low ambitious leadership who see nothing behind the range of their eyesight. Worse applies to corrupt and cruel leadership in the South and Puntland. They cannot envision their personal future down few years coming. They are blinded and deafened by greed. They lost their sense of morality. To be fair the recently appointed PM Nour Adde looks of different make. I hope he can figure wood from the forest.
As to OLF, they have to assess their strengths, as well as their weaknesses. They have to realize that, without a united Somali front, their success will be dear and far away, if not impossible. They have to engage all Somalis and accommodate all of us. I know it is not easy, for the whole Ethiopian strategy in the region is built on that disunity of Somali clans. The Tigre regime will pay every possible price and more to perpetuate these divisions. I know our culture of forgiving foreigners but not our brothers. But that irrational tendency must be eradicated. Let us start a campaign of selling our commonality. We are one nation, and can survive only if we united.
Ethiopia succeeded to colonize us all, when they failed centuries without us having any sort of government. History tells us Somali clans from Baidoa to Zeila repulsed Ethiopian invasions for centuries. Then came the white man and with trick and empty treaties took over our land, then gifted large portion of it to Ethiopia from 1889 till 1954.
To be specific, it was no one but Britain that gave the land of our fathers as a gift to the Ethiopian Empire indoor to be enslaved till we are compelled into Christianity, as Oromo nation and others experienced. We know many clans of Somali origin that are assimilated into other nationalities and religions in Ethiopia.
Let us wake up and I implore our youth and scholars to dig the Internet and look for our history search for the relations between us and Ethiopia, search British Empire and its unforgivable crime against us.
As to the websites, please do publish the many letters and reports that weekly appear in International websites, but are missing from Somali sites, about the Ethiopian violations of Human Rights in Somali Zone.
Equally, I can say same on Somaliland issues and those who advocate Somali Unity. Many of them, instead of calling for unity for the common advancement, either push all Somalilanders to the extreme or, even worse, attack on Isaq clan, sweeping them out with single and same brush. They leave no space to dialogue and bring back the mistrust that divides us.
I believe those Somalilanders, who indulge into Somali unity, are either cheap cheats that want to live on a diseased prey or demonstrate a definitely low intelligence - even those who are adorned in Unity website like the two Samatar professors.
Let us be frank! Have you ever heard the two professors talking about corruption, injustices, and twisted democracy in Somaliland?
Have you ever heard them challenge the strongman of Somaliland President Rayaale?
Have you ever heard them trying to persuade their fellow Somalilanders for unity?
They just negate every step taken by the Southerners for building their state. The same goes to Jama Yare, Buuba and Ceelaabe and Maareeye. They tell nothing wrong in disunity and nothing good of the government they are or were part of.
We need to be outspoken to each other, to evaluate our leaders seriously, and to engage more openly, without trying to fight for clan dominance in disguise of national unity. This attitude will not work, and this is not said about a long-term perspective; it will never take off.
After a clan rivalry of decades, we are all eyes, and no clan can cheat another. With clan objectives, we will all fail in Somali Zone, in Somalia, in Somaliland and even in relatively peaceful Djibouti.
We have a duty to safeguard the future of the coming generations as our forefathers did.
By Ahmed Ali (Somalidoon)
Lets summarize what this fool had to say:
1. He advocated for Somalia Unity
2. He wants the Isaaqs to join the ONLF
3. He pains Hargeisa as being an occupied city
This fool is advocating anything that is Anti-Isaaqnimo.
Anyways this fool, forgot the fact that the Isaaqs were the spearhead of any liberation strugle for Kilka-Shanaad ever since the Ethiopia annexed it from Somaliland. But he also forgot the fact that the Cagdheer fools were always the ones that were sabotaging that strugle from the very word get go.
This dude wants us to look back at the history and when I do all I find is how we (isaaqs) had gumbled everything including our own "Soveriegnty" to free that land and how many times the we had been backstabbed by those fools.
At least if this fool were to advocate for "Muslimnimo" and asked Isaaqs to join the ICU, he could have gotten away. The ICU strugle in Southern Somalia is a legit and more honerable and deserving support more than anything else.
I personally would rather join the ONLF despite all its history than the ICU. Whos' gonna tell me I am not Isaaq ??
Re: Somaliland/Puntland people & SNM fighters support ONLF!!!
We dont need your fuccking help or support to achieve a comprehensive political solution to the Ogadenia problem.
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Re: Somaliland/Puntland people & SNM fighters support ONLF!!!
DANGIRL wrote:We dont need your fuccking help or support to achieve a comprehensive political solution to the Ogadenia problem.
keeppp call iit ogadenia and u will be in this messs ila yawma all diin
sahan what will they call you Sheikh quyteba ibn Digil iyo xururufle
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Emperior , ICU-du maxay tahay? waa qabiilada somaalida Konfureed oo magaaladey haysteen , rag kaloo somaali ah ciidamo xabashi ah dul keeneen. sow intaa ma'aha?
Tan Ogadeenia na maxay tahay? waa nimankan somalida galbeed oo dadkoodi u dagaalamaya . sow ma'aha?
Haddaba anigu markaan qiyaaso , labadaa midkee ii dhow , dee cagdheerta isoo xigta
Raggu waa isla laaya , inagu xitaa nimankii " sii galbeed" baynu nahay oo WSLF-tii geed balaadh inoo fadhiday waa la hayaa tariidkhdeeda , laakiin wixii ba dhowr iyo toban sanno baa ka soo dambeeyay.
Maanta xaaladu meel kale ayay taagan tahay , shaqsiyan haddan sahangalbeed ahay , Ogandeenkaas aynu isku afka nahay baan iska biiri laha intaan ICU-da Xamar joogta doonanayo . Halkaan horta waxa hubaal ah inaad xabashi ku ridayso , Xamar ilayn somali kale ayaa ka soo hor boodi karee , oo majeerteen iyo abgaal xabadda xabuushta ku socota isku dhiga baa ka buuxa
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Tan Ogadeenia na maxay tahay? waa nimankan somalida galbeed oo dadkoodi u dagaalamaya . sow ma'aha?
Haddaba anigu markaan qiyaaso , labadaa midkee ii dhow , dee cagdheerta isoo xigta

Raggu waa isla laaya , inagu xitaa nimankii " sii galbeed" baynu nahay oo WSLF-tii geed balaadh inoo fadhiday waa la hayaa tariidkhdeeda , laakiin wixii ba dhowr iyo toban sanno baa ka soo dambeeyay.
Maanta xaaladu meel kale ayay taagan tahay , shaqsiyan haddan sahangalbeed ahay , Ogandeenkaas aynu isku afka nahay baan iska biiri laha intaan ICU-da Xamar joogta doonanayo . Halkaan horta waxa hubaal ah inaad xabashi ku ridayso , Xamar ilayn somali kale ayaa ka soo hor boodi karee , oo majeerteen iyo abgaal xabadda xabuushta ku socota isku dhiga baa ka buuxa

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Re: Somaliland/Puntland people & SNM fighters support ONLF!!!
war nagaa daa ogadenku wa jabartii
abu mansuur iyo kuwa cummaadaha wa weyn baala qaatay , Cigaal once said
Hawiye are easy to convince but hard to controll
ogaden mala siiduu kalle jebertiga way ka duwan yihiin laakin gadaal gadaal uun bay darood ka noqonayaan uu ku odhayaaan adigu horta markii horre iidoor wagaashe xun baad ahayd markaas ay halkii ka bilaabmanaysa marka nimanka inanu naaqusno weyaan beelllo hawiyaha kala baxno interest keena ku dagaalama

abu mansuur iyo kuwa cummaadaha wa weyn baala qaatay , Cigaal once said
Hawiye are easy to convince but hard to controll
ogaden mala siiduu kalle jebertiga way ka duwan yihiin laakin gadaal gadaal uun bay darood ka noqonayaan uu ku odhayaaan adigu horta markii horre iidoor wagaashe xun baad ahayd markaas ay halkii ka bilaabmanaysa marka nimanka inanu naaqusno weyaan beelllo hawiyaha kala baxno interest keena ku dagaalama

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Re: Somaliland/Puntland people & SNM fighters support ONLF!!!
Jaarka ayaa horta ku soo xiga , ma fahantay !
Hadda waan iska sii baxaya , ee nin walba halkuu rabo ha ka dhaco , intaan rabay sheegtay !
Anigu waxaan idhi oo qudha , maalinta dambe ee dowladda Riyaale niman Soomali ah gacanta xabashida uga geliso baa loo yaaba .
Salaama caleekum .
Hadda waan iska sii baxaya , ee nin walba halkuu rabo ha ka dhaco , intaan rabay sheegtay !
Anigu waxaan idhi oo qudha , maalinta dambe ee dowladda Riyaale niman Soomali ah gacanta xabashida uga geliso baa loo yaaba .
Salaama caleekum .
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Re: Somaliland/Puntland people & SNM fighters support ONLF!!!
maxay na yeellii adeer ogaden waligeen baa waanu karbaashii jiirnay niman suggule caynaashe uuu garxajis aah ayaa loo diiira uun wax weyn maha. mejeerteen iyo bacbuudhan maxa walaleeye waa siyaasad
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Re: Somaliland/Puntland people & SNM fighters support ONLF!!!
Horta salaama caleekum ha iga daba hadlin bay ka dhigantahay.
Anigu waxaan ku idhi waryee , halkaydaan ku dhacayn baan gelaya ee .. salamaa caleekum !!

Anigu waxaan ku idhi waryee , halkaydaan ku dhacayn baan gelaya ee .. salamaa caleekum !!
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Re: Somaliland/Puntland people & SNM fighters support ONLF!!!
The_Emperior5 wrote:maxay na yeellii adeer ogaden waligeen baa waanu karbaashii jiirnay niman suggule caynaashe uuu garxajis aah ayaa loo diiira uun wax weyn maha. mejeerteen iyo bacbuudhan maxa walaleeye waa siyaasad
Gaashmo provience, Wardeer Provience, West Dollo provience, Aware provinece, Donote provinece is all HY.
Sibaa Reer Sugulle (HY).
Gaahomo= ONLF NO GO AREA.
When you enter Gaashmo provience there are boards that say
'NO OGADEN BEYOND THIS POINT, SHOOT TO KILL POLICY'.
Thats what it says in Somali, English, Arabic.
Gaashamo is a Cagdheer NO GO AREA. Otherwsie the whole Burco and Ceerigabo will come for war for the HY brothers in Hawd.
Burco iyo Gaashomo
Gaashomo iyo Sirow

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Re: Somaliland/Puntland people & SNM fighters support ONLF!!!
Correction 'The Somali Galbeed' Region NOT Oogdenia.
The ONLF only represent Ogaden. The above proviences are all HY. Thus, any automany for the Ogaden will mean that the HY will make the above provinces and Gaashamo as part of Togdheer and Burco and will be part of Somaliland.
Gaashamo :somaliland: Togdheer District forever HY
The Ogaden are nice people and you can be live with them. But they must undersatnd that other will share any future government and Oil from the region.
But if there is no poltical shareholdership then all the above HY proviences will be come part of Somaliland. The HY have helped the Ogaden and even HY men have been arrested for helping brother-laws and in laws that are Ogaden.
I have Ogaden family that are Reer Abdelia sibaa Reer Dulul and Maxamed Suubeer such as Makahill and when my uncle helped them and gave them shelter the Xabashy inpreisoned him after then when HY said that they will fight with ONLF that Ethopians freed him for fear that all Gaashamo may rebel leading to more rebilionans in Dhgaxbuur and the rest of the Killah 5.
Ogaden need to be inclusive with Reer Hawdka not just Ogaden who not even majority.
The ONLF only represent Ogaden. The above proviences are all HY. Thus, any automany for the Ogaden will mean that the HY will make the above provinces and Gaashamo as part of Togdheer and Burco and will be part of Somaliland.
Gaashamo :somaliland: Togdheer District forever HY
The Ogaden are nice people and you can be live with them. But they must undersatnd that other will share any future government and Oil from the region.
But if there is no poltical shareholdership then all the above HY proviences will be come part of Somaliland. The HY have helped the Ogaden and even HY men have been arrested for helping brother-laws and in laws that are Ogaden.
I have Ogaden family that are Reer Abdelia sibaa Reer Dulul and Maxamed Suubeer such as Makahill and when my uncle helped them and gave them shelter the Xabashy inpreisoned him after then when HY said that they will fight with ONLF that Ethopians freed him for fear that all Gaashamo may rebel leading to more rebilionans in Dhgaxbuur and the rest of the Killah 5.
Ogaden need to be inclusive with Reer Hawdka not just Ogaden who not even majority.
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Re: Somaliland/Puntland people & SNM fighters support ONLF!!!
waa can yare ee emperior HY buu bartay!!!!!!!!!!The_Emperior5 wrote:maxay na yeellii adeer ogaden waligeen baa waanu karbaashii jiirnay niman suggule caynaashe uuu garxajis aah ayaa loo diiira uun wax weyn maha. mejeerteen iyo bacbuudhan maxa walaleeye waa siyaasad
waa we know what HY are we dont need to faan. Please dont fight battels using others name.
wala Reer Sugule wala Reer Caynaahe. HY waa HY
Aniguu ah HY magac ha naka dilin.

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war h.y. wa tolkay way isso barbar istagaan markaan uu bahanay best men i know
waxba haa uu qadadaan inadeer kuwa suggule haan sheegayo i was just sayng wa qollada Ethiopia aad uu dagta eey absamuhu ka baqaan
Viva .h.y. Iyo ciidangalle intooda kalle

waxba haa uu qadadaan inadeer kuwa suggule haan sheegayo i was just sayng wa qollada Ethiopia aad uu dagta eey absamuhu ka baqaan
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Re: Somaliland/Puntland people & SNM fighters support ONLF!!!
HY should fight with the ogadens against ethoipia instead of accepting the ethoipian domination.You can say what you like about ogadens but their fight is just and I for one wish them the best.
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