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Re: Nation Of Islam?

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King-of-Awdal wrote:
Mr. Yungnfresh wrote:NOI believes God came to earth in the form of a Black man called W.D Fard...later on, Elijah Mohamed, Louis Farrakhan and other bastariin got drunk and added to the story...it's not even really a religion, more like a Black Supremacist after-school club
:shock: :shock: :shock:

Holy shit i didnt know that. :down: So do they pray and fast than or No.
They believe u don't have to pray 5 times a day and when u do decide to pray, u don't have to make Rukuc or Sujud. For fasting, they believe u only have to fast in December and fasting during Ramadan is completely optional. They believe Prophet Muhammad SAW was not a role model for our times, but Elijah Mohamed is and he's the law giver for our time. They believe W.D Fard and Elijah Mohamed are the only authorities on Xaram and Xalal and the Qur'an and Sunnah have no bearing on it whatsoever. Louis Farrakhan (faraq kaan) went to Hajj to fool the Saudis for financial assistance and was forced to declare Shahaada when he went, lakiin as soon as he left, he denounced the Shahaada. Waa bastard.
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Re: Nation Of Islam?

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If they pronounce the same testamony of faith as the Prophet(pbuh)...then yes id say so
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They don't though. They believe they wrote the Qur'an and 24 scientists create a new scripture every 24,000 years...if you believe the Qur'an is not from Allah, there goes ur Islam.
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Re: Nation Of Islam?

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Mr. Yungnfresh wrote:
King-of-Awdal wrote:
Mr. Yungnfresh wrote:NOI believes God came to earth in the form of a Black man called W.D Fard...later on, Elijah Mohamed, Louis Farrakhan and other bastariin got drunk and added to the story...it's not even really a religion, more like a Black Supremacist after-school club
:shock: :shock: :shock:

Holy shit i didnt know that. :down: So do they pray and fast than or No.
They believe u don't have to pray 5 times a day and when u do decide to pray, u don't have to make Rukuc or Sujud. For fasting, they believe u only have to fast in December and fasting during Ramadan is completely optional. They believe Prophet Muhammad SAW was not a role model for our times, but Elijah Mohamed is and he's the law giver for our time. They believe W.D Fard and Elijah Mohamed are the only authorities on Xaram and Xalal and the Qur'an and Sunnah have no bearing on it whatsoever. Louis Farrakhan (faraq kaan) went to Hajj to fool the Saudis for financial assistance and was forced to declare Shahaada when he went, lakiin as soon as he left, he denounced the Shahaada. Waa bastard.

:shock: :shock: :shock: If thats the case didnt he commit aposty which can be punished by death. I say if that bastard ever makes it another muslim country they should finish him off. :up: Basically after learning this i dont think they are muslim but worst than the Kufaar. :down:
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Re: Nation Of Islam?

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i dunno about that, i don't think they're technically Muslim to begin with so i dunno if u can consider him an "apostate" from Islam.

either way, i would've endorsed his beheading...they give us a bad name
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Mr. Yungnfresh wrote:They don't though. They believe they wrote the Qur'an and 24 scientists create a new scripture every 24,000 years...if you believe the Qur'an is not from Allah, there goes ur Islam.

Case closed then....off to next discussion---->
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King-of-Awdal wrote:Something is not right about this organization. I ran into one today and he approached me wearing all black suite and me being paranoid as usuall iam i thought no another moromon cause those are the ones who usually knock on our house door. Anywayz before he said anything i said am muslim not christian so am not interested. The dude got pissed and he was like i represent the true muslim nation of Islam. I was like oh you are muslim mashallah and he was like offcourse blacks are the only true muslims. The matha facker tried to put religion and race together. So my question is are these people real muslims or like wannabe muslims. :?

well you dont have to be rude about it you can still talk to him politely, I've learned to restect the nation of islam because of the work they do.
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You have to understand like hadaad said, most of them see the light eventually.....I have so many AA muslim brothers who started off NOI and later came to their sense and took the shahada. Btw Mahamed farid Deen denounced alot of the craazy things he did and said, and his group today is somewhat inbetween real Islam and NOI. Ilaahey Ha Soo Hanuuniyi.


btw, I went to their "temple" (as they like to call it) couple of times and it's the same as going to a Baptist Church. Old black ladies screaming, the males repeating what the "minister" said and so on, waa comical.
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i agree with haddad and advo, we have met some in the haj and they continue contact with us.
eventually they got where they supposed to be.
you just need to be patient and not freak out when you hear some of their believes.
they understand their work if you tell them in wise way without throwing takfir on them.
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Farrakhan is a very intelligent man, even though you dont agree with his islam I urge you to listen to his analysis of politico-socio and economic events.

Elijah Muhammed was ahead of his time, i dont agree with his islam either but the man was amazingly insightful and profound.

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Re: Nation Of Islam?

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Mr. Yungnfresh wrote:
either way, i would've endorsed his beheading...they give us a bad name

i mean they're not really Muslims..but in what way do they give us Muslims a bad name?..if anything they give African Americans a bad name.
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Enlightened~Sista wrote:
Mr. Yungnfresh wrote:
either way, i would've endorsed his beheading...they give us a bad name

i mean they're not really Muslims..but in what way do they give us Muslims a bad name?..if anything they give African Americans a bad name.
People who cant tell the difference between real muslims and thsi foneys might think Islam is a religion based on hatred and racism.
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Re: Nation Of Islam?

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Enlightened~Sista wrote:i mean they're not really Muslims..
Why are you judging them? What's with you Takfiring them? Leave the judging to Allah.
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Re: Nation Of Islam?

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I think it would be an understatement to say they are very "deviant", I don't consider them muslim.
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Re: Nation Of Islam?

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i dont mean to defend the nation of islam. but you gotta think twice about islam when somalis kill each other like dogs, is that islam? what about somalis hating bantu, is what the true islam? are arabs the true muslims yet they are racist and dont have love for their fellow suffering arab and african muslims?

true muslims are very rare indeed, very few true muslims exist. so before you judge others take a good look at your sinful life
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