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The_Emperior5 wrote:no qansa somaliland and jubbaland has no border . the people of merehan dont really care if somaliland suceeds or not shaqadooda maha we can work things out have goor relation ship we need one good partner in the south
Emperior, what makes you think we do not care whether Somaliland succeeds or not. Even though I am against their secessionist ideas, I am in support of their development. Laakin yareeya brobagandaka. I don't think I have ever heard one reer Somaliland politican giving a speech without making reference to the name of the late president Jaale Siyaad (RH).
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Warsame101 wrote:
The_Emperior5 wrote:no qansa somaliland and jubbaland has no border . the people of merehan dont really care if somaliland suceeds or not shaqadooda maha we can work things out have goor relation ship we need one good partner in the south
Emperior, what makes you think we do not care whether Somaliland succeeds or not. Even though I am against their secessionist ideas, I am in support of their development. Laakin yareeya brobagandaka. I don't think I have ever heard one reer Somaliland politican giving a speech without making reference to the name of the late president Jaale Siyaad (RH).
So inorder for marexaan to support somaliland physically or verbally, we Isaaq's would need to stop telling the truth about the late dictator?
Warsame I thought you was an intelliegent man, but it seems you are like the rst of them programmed to repeat the same dubios lies.... :down:
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general stop dreaming about kismaayo man how pathetic :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: once again waa qaldantahay
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GENERAL_SNM wrote:
Warsame101 wrote:
The_Emperior5 wrote:no qansa somaliland and jubbaland has no border . the people of merehan dont really care if somaliland suceeds or not shaqadooda maha we can work things out have goor relation ship we need one good partner in the south
Emperior, what makes you think we do not care whether Somaliland succeeds or not. Even though I am against their secessionist ideas, I am in support of their development. Laakin yareeya brobagandaka. I don't think I have ever heard one reer Somaliland politican giving a speech without making reference to the name of the late president Jaale Siyaad (RH).
So inorder for marexaan to support somaliland physically or verbally, we Isaaq's would need to stop telling the truth about the late dictator?
Warsame I thought you was an intelliegent man, but it seems you are like the rst of them programmed to repeat the same dubios lies.... :down:
lol, you do know that I am more aware of Waqooyi political history then the average individual. The lies and allegations attributed to Jaalle Siyaad (RH) was an attempt to divert SNM's own crimes to the late president. Remember, my own uncle was an SNM commander and he has nothing but respect for the late president whilst simultaneously admiting that a lot of wrongdoings occured during the civil war.

Propagandic inversions:
1) Numbers were hyped up (from 5,000 to 50,000)
2) SNM atrocities commited to non-Isaaq clans were covered up
3) Half of the mayhem witnessed in Hargeisa in 1988 was at the hands of SNM, they were the first to attack the city with Ethiopian-equipped logistics.

After the fall of the central government, warlords unjustly blamed the late president (RH) for their shortcomings and destruction of the country, similiary how SNM indoctrinated their own youth that they were "Mujahids" free from any blame.

The funny thing is, a re-occurence of the same saga happend after the late Cigaal (RH) consolidated power in Waqooyi Galbeed. Tuur (RH) supporters called themselves SNM, Cigaal branded them as rebels, in the end, they were rooted.

What if Tuur's supporters who lavishly branded themselves as SNM would have toppled Cigaal's administration. Would Cigaal be regarded as a would-be "dictator" and that once again SNM "prevailed" against all odds. Only Allaah knows, but what I do know is, propaganda is a powerful tool.
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Warsame Wallahi I'm from Burco and lived through the curfews and abductions that came with the dictators government.Its only function in Waqooyi was oppression nothing else.Tell me if the government was not against Isaaq civillians, why when the Big cities were bombed their lifes were not considered.If as you say the rebels were the real villians were whole cities bombed? My own father spent time in madheera just like most Isaaq's with money, and he had to pay a bribe to get out out.Isaaq people were not only abused in their own homes, they were chased all the way to miyi.
As for Cigaalsaun claim that the SNM were rebels he said that whilst he worked for the late dictator, and he was only taking advantage.The true leader should have been the late TuuRaun his goal was more closer to the original SNM aim.Cigaalaun and his cronies hijacked the leadership whilst everybody was celebariting.
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GENERAL_SNM wrote:Warsame Wallahi I'm from Burco and lived through the curfews and abductions that came with the dictators government.Its only function in Waqooyi was oppression nothing else.Tell me if the government was not against Isaaq civillians, why when the Big cities were bombed their lifes were not considered.If as you say the rebels were the real villians were whole cities bombed? My own father spent time in madheera just like most Isaaq's with money, and he had to pay a bribe to get out out.Isaaq people were not only abused in their own homes, they were chased all the way to miyi.
As for Cigaalsaun claim that the SNM were rebels he said that whilst he worked for the late dictator, and he was only taking advantage.The true leader should have been the late TuuRaun his goal was more closer to the original SNM aim.Cigaalaun and his cronies hijacked the leadership whilst everybody was celebariting.
lol, dude, curfews were only imposed after 1988 when SNM launched a major attack operation in Hargeisa.

Prior to 1988, SNM was an unsupported rebel group with its HQ in Ethiopia, it was only after the attack in Hargeisa that they they stepped up their progandic wars and gained sympathy from their kinsmen.

Remember, Jaalle Siyaad (RH) was physically incapable of assuming major presidential duties from 1986 to 1988 (car accident) so instead made only public appearances and focusing on minor presidental duties. The bombings in 1988 did not do much, why so? They were mostly targeted at the rebel bases outside Hargeisa.

Most of the damage that was inflicted on Hargeisa and its population was the mortar showers that both the Government troops and SNM rebels engaged in.

The fact of the matter is, most of the public speeches that these SNM veterans give is based on the work of historical revisionism.

You did not address these propagandic inversions:
1) Numbers were hyped up (from 5,000 to 50,000)
2) SNM atrocities commited to non-Isaaq clans were covered up
3) Half of the mayhem witnessed in Hargeisa in 1988 was at the hands of SNM, they were the first to attack the city with Ethiopian-equipped logistics.
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Warsama sxb your the one changing history.I dont care about what the current government thinks of the late dictator, they were more then happy to address him as sir, when Burco and Hargiesa were being levelled so I have no time for their hypocrasy and double standards.
Why were all the leaders in waqooyi darod......morgan gaani and jeese
Why were whole cities bombed, and if as you claim the rebels were weak, why were they able to attack major cities?
Your understand of history is from a marexaan mindset and totally neglects, your garxajis half.
Sxb do a bit more reaserch either Isaaq are totally in the wrong or their is a point to their complaints.
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GENERAL_SNM wrote:Warsama sxb your the one changing history.I dont care about what the current government thinks of the late dictator, they were more then happy to address him as sir, when Burco and Hargiesa were being levelled so I have no time for their hypocrasy and double standards.
Why were all the leaders in waqooyi darod......morgan gaani and jeese
Why were whole cities bombed, and if as you claim the rebels were weak, why were they able to attack major cities?
Your understand of history is from a marexaan mindset and totally neglects, your garxajis half.
Sxb do a bit more reaserch either Isaaq are totally in the wrong or their is a point to their complaints.
Saaxib, if you cannot address, do not initiate. I mean, we could dwelve in to the issue and resolve what exactly happend but I can't do much if you do not want to discuss it further.

Most of the government soldiers stationed in Waqooyi Galbeed were Soomaalis, not from a specific clan perse. After the end of central government, 3,000 Hawiye Government soldiers were in Hargeisa wishing to go back to Muqdisho.
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