Sir-Luggoyo wrote:+chilli wrote:I can't believe people actually think its sane to believe in the reality of jin possession...
Waax kaa daaran those that use physical methods and Qur'an saar to try and 'harm' the Jin..
Billa aqli..
Chilli,
Did you read the prerequisite? In case you didn't, it says: "If you don't believe, get #^$@ out here" excuse my Latin, but since you are Chilli, I forgive you. Now, on what grounds do you repudiate?"
Qur'an tells us that Jinni exist and they are creations of Allah (SWT),
Yes, do forgive me Sir, I read your colourful Latin and understood it clearly, but once I started reading the non-sense people wrote about possessions, ( I know the whole purpose of the thread( I remembered Somali folktales, idiotic superstitions Somali sheekos. Harmless and false, but jinn stories that should be in that same category are told with a 'Islamic' fallacious 'truth' tone, and everyone stupefied claim 'SubxanAllah' 'Wala xaola wala quwaatii'! and every other Islamic heightening phrase they know. If they didn't invoke the diin and Ilahay I wouldn't mind so much.
Belief in the world of the unseen (al-Ghayb) is an important aspect of our iman, in fact it is the strongest and highest form of Twhid. Therefore all Muslims are obligated to believe in the existence of jinn, angels etc. What, however, remains contentious is the degree to which they influence the human world. And that my friend is where I draw the line. Our culture is riddled with misfortune, as nomads of an illiterate and sufistic background elicit explanations for misfortune, especially for sickness has been offered by uneducated superstition elders, who more than often claim to perform 'miracles'. Most people can't even distinguish between Satan and Jinn. But thats ok because neither of them are described in the Qur'an or hadith to a great extent. Now I am a storng upholder of rationality, so if jinn, a clearly more powerful being, could influence us physically, emotionally or whatever other state, wouldn't Allah opt to mention it?
This is one of those areas people need to distinguish between Islam and culture.
So all those places where ignorant deluded so called Shiekhs physical abuse and torture mentally challenged and psychiatric people need to be closed down. And they need to be educated.
Hyper,lol, a male friend of mine has two female jinn stalkers, every night they appear to tease and scary him..