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[Navy9]

I came across this hadith which I have no idea if it is sahih or not, I have not seen it before today, can you ask your school deen teacher or even your father if he had heard of it:

al-Suyuti said, citing Ibn Abi Hatim and Abu al-Shaykh, in The Greatness, from `Abd Allah ibn `Amr ibn al-`As (may God be pleased with them), that (the Prophet) said, “The world was formed in five forms, in the form of a bird, with its head, breast, wings, and tail. Medina, Mecca, and the Yemen are the head. The breast is Egypt and Syria. The right wing is Iraq, and beyond Iraq the people called Waq, and beyond Waq the people called Waqwaq, and beyond that are people known only to God. The left wing is Sind, and beyond Sind is India, and beyond India is a people called Nasak, and beyond Nasak is a people called Mansak, and beyond that are people known only to God. And the tail is from Dhat al-Hama to the setting sun, and the evil part of the bird is the tail.”

Thanks...

[Navy9]

Yaa haji Bur3i inta feen! Yaa ibny is'al el modaris eldeen bita3ak 3aan elhadith daa, wala inta meen manazilohoum?

[Warsan_Star_Muslimah]

This is the first time I have seen it too. Do you have it in Arabic form? I suppose that would help more since they are Arabic speakers.

I would love to know what this all means.

Salaam

[Navy9]

No, sis I dont have it in the Arabic format but its easy to translate. I think hyper can do this, if he saw this thread but he is no where to be found

[samadoon-waaxid]

navy9, I have both sahih bukhari and muslim and I assure u its not there.
besides it contradicts all the other ahadiths that talk about the creation
most likely its one of these weak hadith
wallah aclam

[Warsan_Star_Muslimah]

It is Friday he is most likely at Jumca prayers, or coming back from it something like that, he'll see it insha-allah.

Where did you find it?

samadoon-waaxid; I think it is not to be taken literal, I'm sure there is another meaning to it. Wallahu alim though.

Salaam

[samadoon-waaxid]

warsan: thats was my first thought, however it would be helpful if we know where its found(the book), and the chapter
i.d: sahih al-bukhari, or sunan ibn-dawuud
wal allahu aclam

[Navy9]

navy9, I have both sahih bukhari and muslim and I assure u its not there.
besides it contradicts all the other ahadiths that talk about the creation
most likely its one of these weak hadith
wallah aclam

I have the feeling that this is rather a fabricated hadith but if you are sure that it is not in the hadith books (I dont have, otherwise I would have looked them up myself) then thanks walaal for letting me know, i appreciate that.

[Navy9]

Where did you find it?

Found it in a website owned by an American guy who said he studied Islam, I will try to find the link for you.

[Hyperactive]

ive never heard about it.
i'll ask my father but i need the arabic version , honest im not even sure if i understood the meaning of it.

[Navy9]

Warsan,

Here is the link:

http://www.unc.edu/~cernst/pdf/azadtrans.pdf

"India as a Sacred Islamic Land", translated from the Arabic by Carl E Ernst.
In Religions of India in Practice, ed Donald S Lopez Jr, Princeton Readings in Religions, 1 (Princeton University Press,1995): p 556-564

The hadith is in page 9!