Funny parliamentary session in UK 1914 regarding Jubbaland

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Funny parliamentary session in UK 1914 regarding Jubbaland

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Question by 'lord' Hindlip:
...Now, I will go for a moment to the other end of this frontier, to Jubaland, which I think was shortly touched upon by lord Stanhope this evening. Here you have another situation which is full of danger and which is causing, I understand, considerable anxiety. Again I would like to know what policy the Government are going to adopt. You have there a large and powerful tribe of fanatics, a branch of the Somalis called the Marehans. I understand that they are moderately well armed, and that they are warlike and live in a country which is sometimes well watered and sometimes waterless. I believe this tribe has been giving considerable trouble, and that orders have been given to disarm them. We have had trouble in the past on the Juba River in Jubaland on more than one occasion, and I cannot remember that our efforts on any particular occasion have met with very wonderful success. At the present moment I understand that practically every available man in Uganda and British East Africa has been sent up to the Marehan territory and that these two Protectorates are to all intents and purposes denuded of their troops. Thirdly, I would ask what instructions have been given to the military authorities in charge of this Marehan business? I believe that there was a collision between our troops and the Somalis there only a day or two ago. I saw an account yesterday in an evening paper and would ask the noble lord about it.
Answer by 'lord Emmott': Where was this?

Answer by 'lord' Hindlip:
I saw an account in an evening paper yesterday, telegraphed, I think, from the African World at Nairobi, that there had been a fight between the King's African Rifles under Major Soames and a section of the Marehan Somalis. The telegram stated that the Somalis had been surprised and lost about 120 men. I would ask the noble lord whether he will tell us what the Government's policy with regard to these Marehans is. Are they to be disarmed? If they resist disarmament, is there sufficient force to effectually cope with the resistance and to disarm them? And if not, what instructions have been given or will be given to the officers on the spot?
Answered by 'lord' Cranworth:
I turn to the other point raised by the noble lord, the expedition against the bastard tribe of Somalis called the Marehans. When I left East Africa some ten years ago there were left on the highlands the imposing force of 60 troops. These 60 men were there to protect some scattered white population in the middle of four million natives, who at all events were not unused to murder and pillage. I do not wish to press this point because I believe that as a matter of fact this populace is perfectly safe. I was certainly struck on my return home, as I think any one would have been, by the extraordinary contrast between the quietness and peace-fulness of the natives of British East Africa and the unrest and discontent and turbulence here.

Expeditions against the Marehans and these posts on the northern frontier are very expensive luxuries, and the cost falls, I think, directly, but I am certain indirectly, on the Protectorate of British East Africa. These people in the Protectorates have not only no votes but at the present moment have no representation of any sort or kind. I will not go into the question of why they have no representation, because they might 1186 have representation of a sort if they wished it; but the fact remains that they have no representation, and, as your lordships are aware, voteless people are apt to be suspicious and sometimes also violent. On these grounds I think it does behove His Majesty's Government to give the very fullest information in their power to the people of British East-Africa. There is an old proverb which says that the man who pays the piper should call the tune. I make no suggestion that these people should call the tune, but I do think it is a reasonable suggestion that they should be permitted to know for what they are paying.
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Warsame101 wrote:
I turn to the other point raised by the noble lord, the expedition against the bastard tribe of Somalis called the Marehans. When I left East Africa some ten years ago there were left on the highlands the imposing force of 60 troops. These 60 men were there to protect some scattered white population in the middle of four million natives, who at all events were not unused to murder and pillage. I do not wish to press this point because I believe that as a matter of fact this populace is perfectly safe. I was certainly struck on my return home, as I think any one would have been, by the extraordinary contrast between the quietness and peace-fulness of the natives of British East Africa and the unrest and discontent and turbulence here.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Focking whites musta been pissed when they called us bastards
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Lol Somali Renaissance bad move man.

Marexan are amongst the strongest tribes in Somalia and anyone failing to realise this is more of an disadvantage to them then to us :up: 8-) Historically Ahmed Gurey, Colonial period Marehan Sade a force not to mess with, Independence Marehan political party being the only tribal party, MSB (aun) born from the great tribe of Sade nothing more nothing less, 1991 fighting all somalis collectively, later on fighting Hawiyo collectively in Galkacyo/Kismaayo/Gedo, later on fighting kablalax collectively in Kismaayo, later on Al-itxad fighting ethiopia and the enemy of the nation/islam, later on SNFvs Al-itixad, later on ICU in kismaayo, later Taano vs Barre, later everyone from Marexan to Wadaad to everyone vs Barre, now lets wait and see :lol:
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Warsame101 wrote:Question by 'lord' Hindlip:
...Now, I will go for a moment to the other end of this frontier, to Jubaland, which I think was shortly touched upon by lord Stanhope this evening. Here you have another situation which is full of danger and which is causing, I understand, considerable anxiety. Again I would like to know what policy the Government are going to adopt. You have there a large and powerful tribe of fanatics, a branch of the Somalis called the Marehans. I understand that they are moderately well armed, and that they are warlike and live in a country which is sometimes well watered and sometimes waterless. I believe this tribe has been giving considerable trouble, and that orders have been given to disarm them. We have had trouble in the past on the Juba River in Jubaland on more than one occasion, and I cannot remember that our efforts on any particular occasion have met with very wonderful success. At the present moment I understand that practically every available man in Uganda and British East Africa has been sent up to the Marehan territory and that these two Protectorates are to all intents and purposes denuded of their troops. Thirdly, I would ask what instructions have been given to the military authorities in charge of this Marehan business? I believe that there was a collision between our troops and the Somalis there only a day or two ago. I saw an account yesterday in an evening paper and would ask the noble lord about it.
Answer by 'lord Emmott': Where was this?

Answer by 'lord' Hindlip:
I saw an account in an evening paper yesterday, telegraphed, I think, from the African World at Nairobi, that there had been a fight between the King's African Rifles under Major Soames and a section of the Marehan Somalis. The telegram stated that the Somalis had been surprised and lost about 120 men. I would ask the noble lord whether he will tell us what the Government's policy with regard to these Marehans is. Are they to be disarmed? If they resist disarmament, is there sufficient force to effectually cope with the resistance and to disarm them? And if not, what instructions have been given or will be given to the officers on the spot?
Answered by 'lord' Cranworth:
I turn to the other point raised by the noble lord, the expedition against the bastard tribe of Somalis called the Marehans. When I left East Africa some ten years ago there were left on the highlands the imposing force of 60 troops. These 60 men were there to protect some scattered white population in the middle of four million natives, who at all events were not unused to murder and pillage. I do not wish to press this point because I believe that as a matter of fact this populace is perfectly safe. I was certainly struck on my return home, as I think any one would have been, by the extraordinary contrast between the quietness and peace-fulness of the natives of British East Africa and the unrest and discontent and turbulence here.

Expeditions against the Marehans and these posts on the northern frontier are very expensive luxuries, and the cost falls, I think, directly, but I am certain indirectly, on the Protectorate of British East Africa. These people in the Protectorates have not only no votes but at the present moment have no representation of any sort or kind. I will not go into the question of why they have no representation, because they might 1186 have representation of a sort if they wished it; but the fact remains that they have no representation, and, as your lordships are aware, voteless people are apt to be suspicious and sometimes also violent. On these grounds I think it does behove His Majesty's Government to give the very fullest information in their power to the people of British East-Africa. There is an old proverb which says that the man who pays the piper should call the tune. I make no suggestion that these people should call the tune, but I do think it is a reasonable suggestion that they should be permitted to know for what they are paying.

Awesome finding bro.......xaal qaado this amazing thread was hijacked, :up:
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This informative topic was hijacked so I deleted everything that did not pertain to it. All of you guys take in the history of the Jubbaland natives.
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sadeboi wrote:This informative topic was hijacked so I deleted everything that did not pertain to it. All of you guys take in the history of the Jubbaland natives.
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Glad to see that nacnac thread was deleted :up:


Gaalada whether White, Xabashi etc. never Had a easy time in Marexaan land :up:
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Thanks for cleaning it up folks!
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Warsame where did you get the info from thou?

Your quite lucky actually, because you have more sources available to you.
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Intresting.
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sadeboi wrote:Warsame where did you get the info from thou?

Your quite lucky actually, because you have more sources available to you.
^^ sadeboi why the envy? not every1 can be like warsame1 or Cilmile

some fockers are good at talking about mala yacni others about relationships others about useful shiid like history :up:
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who is Cilmile??

yeah Warsame got good research skills, both him and Voltage are great assets to this Fam :up: :lol:

Sadeboi is a loser, ignorant and unwilling to be humble towards potential teachers :down:
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