Should women serve in the military,politics,or police as men

[Spursman]

Im not a chauvinist but quran says that men are the maintainers and protectors of their women it's not the idea that women can't do the job rather it's in the military,politics, or law enforcement. you will have to look at the moral aspects of it. a woman's job in life itself, is to take care of the house,children,and help the the man raise them and to show them love. there shouldn't be any babysitters or someone other than the legal parent watching over the kids. it's the mother of those children's job to do so. a man suppose to be the provider,protector,and to leader to his family even though alot of men now days are too chickenshit to take part of these things today which forces women to go out and work as men do.god says that women shall not be the leader of men [,police officers,politicians in high positions such as a president etc...]because he has created man to have dominion over the earth and every living thing.ever since women have been giving the power or right to perform duties as men do look at the results, high divorce rates,fatherless children,child support and alimony abuse, male homosexuality,materialistic female figures,and male insecurity.i understand that the beautiful woman must do what she have to do to survive but no woman should have to take the place of a man in this society if we men will be men and do what our lord put us here to do. work hard,protect,love,and provide for our women and children.

[Ms.Erudite]

Firstly you need to separate the workplace and the family. They are two completely separate, distinct entities. Islam specifies a man and woman's role within the family, it doesn't place restrictions on a woman's career choice (correct me with sources, if I’m wrong). So there is a place in Islam for women to partake in the military, politics, police or any other halal career. I would argue, that it is in fact vital that women join the police force, so as to represent their community and are perhaps better placed to deal with women's issues.

Islam gave women these rights, and with them came responsibility to balance them with their duties ie: raising their children. It is due to people not making responsible decisions that these consequences occur, not the allocation of these rights themselves. How does male homosexuality comes into this???

However i agree with the whole concept of your argument, that women should not attempt to 'be like' men, as the fight against sexist discrimination can be taken to an extreme, but working is not something only for men.

Oh and btw people who usually start with a prefix like you have, "I'm not a chauvinist but"..., "I'm not racist but” etc. Usually are what they claim not to be!

[surrender]

ever since women have been giving the power or right to perform duties as men do look at the results, high divorce rates,fatherless children,child support and alimony abuse, male homosexuality,materialistic female figures,and male insecurity.

i had to stop right there!!! really? so you saying that women caused all of the above? how did you come up with such conclusion?

[Madd_Scientist_]

what i don't understand is why a woman would want to work in these fields in the first place...maybe with the exception of politics..maybe. Most likely they'll never be top manegement as this spot is reserved for males, so why waste the time/effort in these fields? it just doesn't make sense to me..after all you'd want to progress, and there'll come a time when that progress is hindered simply because you happen to be female.sad but it's the truth.

[black velvet]

what i don't understand is why a woman would want to work in these fields in the first place...maybe with the exception of politics..maybe. Most likely they'll never be top manegement as this spot is reserved for males, so why waste the time/effort in these fields? it just doesn't make sense to me..after all you'd want to progress, and there'll come a time when that progress is hindered simply because you happen to be female.sad but it's the truth.

Maybe but the thought of not being 'allowed' to do something only makes me want it more. No one is super woman lakin I think if you have enough energy, will power and support you could manage being an MD and a mom

[hanqadh]

In addition to participation in congregational prayers and mosque affairs, Muslim women can and should also involve themselves in other affairs of Islam and Muslims according to their abilities, availability of time and energy. Islam puts absolutely no limit to the level of women's involvement in the affairs of Islam and Muslims. In the days of the Prophet and the rightly guided caliphs, we see women taking part in jihad, not only as water carriers and nurses but also as actual combatants. In the battle of 'Uhad, for example, the Prophet was at one point facing alone the attacks of the unbelievers. At that time a woman, Umm 'Ammara, along with other members of her family successfully defended the Prophet. The first martyr in Islam was a woman, Hadhrat Summayyah. In the caliphate of Hadhrat 'Umar, Muslims came under attack from the Roman army at a place called Marj as-Safar. A newly wed bride among the Muslims, Umm al-Hakim, after her husband was martyred by the Romans, fought all day alongside with other Muslims. Before the day was finished, Umm al-Hakim had killed seven of the enemy soldiers. Muslims paid their tribute to their heroine by renaming Marj as-Safar as Qantara Umm al-Hakim.

In the days of the Prophet we also see women running businesses or engaged in farming. The Prophet's first wife, Khadijah, and Hadhrat Abu Bakr's daughter, Asma, were among them. We see women holding administrative positions. After the Muslim conquest of Makkah, the Prophet entrusted Umm Hani with the task of deciding who should be given asylum. Hadhrat 'Umar appointed Shifa' bint 'Abd Allah as market supervisor who had the job of checking corruption in the market. Probably on this basis Imam Abu Hanifah held that women are entitled to be appointed as finance officers and al-Tabari, quite logically, went further and held that every administrative job can be entrusted to women.

In the days of the Prophet at least one woman acted as imam in prayer, at least for people of her household that included some slave males. Christian churches are still arguing whether women should be allowed to become priests, but more than a thousand years ago some Muslim jurists had already accepted that women can be imams without exception.

It is true that the level of participation of women in the affairs of Islam and Muslims was extremely small compared to men, but that was not because Islam puts any hurdles in the way of their participation. There are some natural factors that keep the level of women's involvement lower than that of men. Thus once women get married and have children, they naturally get tied, for sometime at least, with the care of children. Also, because in general they are physically more delicate than men, women are less capable of withstanding the pressures of the rough world outside. Then there is also the unfortunate tendency on the part of many men to keep women out of the life of the society, a tendency that existed even in the early days of Islam. But the point is that as far as Islam itself is concerned, it would like to see women participate in the affairs of Islam and Muslims as much as it is possible for them to do within the limits of their abilities and without neglecting their obligations as mothers, wives, etc., just as it would like men to involve in those affairs as far as is possible within their abilities and without neglecting their duties as fathers, husbands, etc.

What we are saying here is different from what some other writers say on the subject. Their attitude can be summed up as follows: "Yes, women can participate in every area of the collective life of the Ummah, but it is better if they don't." What we are saying here is that it is positively desirable and sometimes obligatory that women, like men, participate in the collective affairs of the Ummah whenever they can. This is because in accordance with the principle of Qur'anic tafsir (interpretation) alluded to earlier, the injunctions in the Qur'an and Hadith about jihad, about acquiring and propagating knowledge of Islam, about calling people to God, truth and justice are not meant for men only but all Muslims whether men or women. Just as commandments about such personal aspects of religion as prayer, fasting, hajj, etc. are meant for both men and women (with some adjustments regarding dress, etc.), so also the teachings of Islam about these other social matters are meant for them both.

[peace-]

Should women serve in the military,politics,or police as men

DUH! of course they should

[zulaika]

if she wants to join men in the trenches of the battlefield...by all means let her.

i wouldn't want that for myself.

women seldom "play" in the political arena..and this is where "men" author wars and political conflicts.. so why then should women participate fighting in wars caused in their absence? beats me..but like i said..to each her own.