moderate-muslims, you either submit to islam or jahiliyyah..
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moderate-muslims, you either submit to islam or jahiliyyah..
there is no other path, and the two paths shall never cross!
so by any means, follow your pathetic human desires and reject the perfect path which has been ordained for you by your creator - allah swt - but, in the process, know you've left the fold of islam. when the deen doesn't agree with your deviant ways, don't twist it nor make lies upon it - leave it for us - who still want to hold onto the rope of allah swt - the way it's! the deen is what it's - it's as clear and simple as can be - and so is being a muslim. surely al-rahman will never put a burden on you that you can't carry!
so by any means, follow your pathetic human desires and reject the perfect path which has been ordained for you by your creator - allah swt - but, in the process, know you've left the fold of islam. when the deen doesn't agree with your deviant ways, don't twist it nor make lies upon it - leave it for us - who still want to hold onto the rope of allah swt - the way it's! the deen is what it's - it's as clear and simple as can be - and so is being a muslim. surely al-rahman will never put a burden on you that you can't carry!
Re: moderate-muslims, you either submit to islam or jahiliyyah..
Good grief. Move this garbage to the Religous extreme section..
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Re: moderate-muslims, you either submit to islam or jahiliyyah..
faggot, why does your avatar have a pic of a woman, who is not even covered properly?
guess that is allowed in your deen (whatever it is)..... but not in islam!
guess that is allowed in your deen (whatever it is)..... but not in islam!
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Re: moderate-muslims, you either submit to islam or jahiliyyah..
THE RIGHT TO JUDGE
by SAYYID QUTB
is not the function of Islam to compromise with the concepts of Jahiliyya which are current in the world or to co-exist in the same land together with a jahili system. This was not the case when it first appeared in the world, nor will it be today or in the future. Jahiliyyah, to whatever period it belongs, is Jahiliyyah; that is, deviation from the worship of One Allah and the way of life prescribed by Allah.
It derives its system and laws and regulations and habits and standards and values from a source other than Allah. On the other hand, Islam is submission to Allah, and its function is to bring people away from Jahiliyyah towards Islam. Jahiliyyah is the worship of some people by others; that is to say, some people become dominant and make laws for others, regardless of whether these laws are against Allah's injunctions and without caring for the use or misuse of their authority.
Islam, on the other hand, is people's worshipping Allah alone, and deriving concepts and beliefs, laws and regulations from the authority of Allah, and freeing themselves from the servitude to Allah's servants. This is the very nature of Islam and the nature of its role on earth.
Islam cannot accept any mixing with Jahiliyyah. Either Islam will remain, or Jahiliyyah; no half-half situation is possible. Command belongs to Allah, or otherwise to Jahiliyyah; Allah's Shari'ah will prevail, or else people's desires: "And if they do not respond to you, then know that they only follow their own lusts. And who is more astray than one who follows his own lusts, without guidance from Allah? Verily! Allah guides not the people who are disobedient."[28:50]; "Do they then seek the judgement of (the Days of) Ignorance? And who is better in judgement than Allah for a people who have firm faith"[5:50].
The foremost duty of Islam is to depose Jahiliyyah from the leadership of man, with the intention of raising human beings to that high position which Allah has chosen for him. This purpose is explained by Raba'i Bin 'Amer, when he replied to the Commander in Chief of the Persian army, Rustum. Rustum asked, "For what purpose have you come?" Raba'i answered," Allah has sent us to bring anyone who wishes from servitude to men into the service of Allah alone, from the narrowness of this world into the vastness of this world and the Hereafter, from the tyranny of religions into the justice of Islam."
Re: moderate-muslims, you either submit to islam or jahiliyyah..
First of all, I don't believe in the word moderate Islam... you are either a Muslim or not... there is no moderation needed in Islam. no changes are needed... its as perfect as when god revealed his religion to the prophet (PBUH)...
and how is saying Islam is the right path qualify as "Religious extreme"?
and how is saying Islam is the right path qualify as "Religious extreme"?
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Re: moderate-muslims, you either submit to islam or jahiliyyah..
Before you start lecturing people, adiga do you follow the perfect path, are you a good muslim? I find the loudest preachers to be the biggest munafiiqs.
Re: moderate-muslims, you either submit to islam or jahiliyyah..
I hope you are not referring to me... I am just clarifying his initial point. I am not the perfect Muslim you will find but I am sure YOU CAN NOT MODERATE ISLAM because in doing so, you are saying ALLAH's religion needs modification. WHICH IS DAAMBAB!!RebelLion1 wrote:Before you start lecturing people, adiga do you follow the perfect path, are you a good muslim? I find the loudest preachers to be the biggest munafiiqs.
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Re: moderate-muslims, you either submit to islam or jahiliyyah..
Abduljurus
Not you. It's the somali-star kid im referring to.
Not you. It's the somali-star kid im referring to.
Last edited by RebelLion1 on Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: moderate-muslims, you either submit to islam or jahiliyyah..
wow! if you want to see a real munafaq look at this dummy character somalistar.RebelLion1 wrote:Before you start lecturing people, adiga do you follow the perfect path, are you a good muslim? I find the loudest preachers to be the biggest munafiiqs.
he preaches something which he does not follow.
dadku buu caynayaa inaalay ka cabsano wuu leeyahay.
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Re: moderate-muslims, you either submit to islam or jahiliyyah..
nag-rebel,
first, i'm not preaching (at least i hope not).
secondly, i'm son of adam (as). hence i've my mistakes - that only allah knows and which i'm trying to work through - but that doesn't mean i can't speak about the deen of allah swt. especially when you've deviant snetters spreading their corrupt deen as islam.
first, i'm not preaching (at least i hope not).
secondly, i'm son of adam (as). hence i've my mistakes - that only allah knows and which i'm trying to work through - but that doesn't mean i can't speak about the deen of allah swt. especially when you've deviant snetters spreading their corrupt deen as islam.
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Re: moderate-muslims, you either submit to islam or jahiliyyah..
Addoow wrote:wow! if you want to see a real munafaq look at this dummy character somalistar.RebelLion1 wrote:Before you start lecturing people, adiga do you follow the perfect path, are you a good muslim? I find the loudest preachers to be the biggest munafiiqs.
he preaches something which he does not follow.
dadku buu caynayaa inaalay ka cabsano wuu leeyahay.
ya secular dameer,
who do you know, are you my maker?
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Re: moderate-muslims, you either submit to islam or jahiliyyah..
moderate muslim is a stupid term
you either are muslim or you are not
and if you are a muslim, you have to work towards taking Islam as a whole and not just following what suits your desire
"moderate' muslims are the non practicing, skotch drinkin people you see on TV
look up Imam Mahdi Bray... he gave a khutba one day about the "moderate Muslims" he met that were on CNN and shid speaking about Islam as if they were experts, it was funny but sad at the same time that the practicing Muslims aren't out there
you either are muslim or you are not
and if you are a muslim, you have to work towards taking Islam as a whole and not just following what suits your desire
"moderate' muslims are the non practicing, skotch drinkin people you see on TV
look up Imam Mahdi Bray... he gave a khutba one day about the "moderate Muslims" he met that were on CNN and shid speaking about Islam as if they were experts, it was funny but sad at the same time that the practicing Muslims aren't out there
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