A Question To abgaals!

[Addoow]

Hello,i will be the last to answer this Question.
Do you consider your self hawiye? if yes,do you think this hawiye thing has done more harm than good? this thread is for abgaals or mudulood,others can sit back for a while.

[Addoow]

come on where the bloody hell are you?

[Gifted]

Addoow, you tell us first.

[Addoow]

Gifted welcome! I said i will the last one to answer it.

[Gifted]

Gifted welcome! I said i will the last one to answer it.

hmmmm, how convenient for you.

[Warsan_Star_Muslimah]

Hello,i will be the last to answer this Question.
Do you consider your self hawiye? if yes,do you think this hawiye thing has done more harm than good? this thread is for abgaals or mudulood,others can sit back for a while.

Salaam

Listen to me, of course I am Hawiye, waa waxa loo dhaladeey, sax mise qallad?

I think it is best Abgaals move from the 1993 war or w/e date it was, and we should unite with other Hawiyes. We should work with HabarGidir and other Hawiyes since they live in Xamar, and that is for the best. Work with what you have Addow. Remember we supported Ali Mahdi and Caydiid (aun) no point crying over split milk. Plus, xoog ma qaabtiin to root them out?

My Two Cents.

[Shirib]

I ain't Abgaal or Mudulood but here is my 2 cents

Hawiye is a one way relationship. Habar Gedir and everyone else from gobolada dhexe benefit from the Hawiye card as they use it to justify making themselves part of everything Abgaal. While Abgaal get absolutely no beenfit from it.

[Addoow]

warsan
what if this hawiye,daarood thing is a myth and never existed! there is no scientific or historical proofs to suggest that they do actually exist.
xamar will be our no matter what happened or will happen.it is our GOD given right.

so,who did you benefit from being a hawiye? what did hawiye do to do and still doing for you but death and destruction to your ancestral hometows.

shirib
you have absolutely a valid point.

[Warsan_Star_Muslimah]

Warsan boy, waxa maa ku sheega, you are having those Buufis moments.

What do you mean this Hawiye, Darood thing is a myth? Do you not believe yourself to be a Hawiye, Hiraab, Mudulood, Abgaal, Harti, Warsangeli, Caballe, Ilkagaduud?

Come on, we all know certain people were there before others in Xamar, but let us share beautiful Xamar and mix with the new comers and breed a new generation of Banadirs? I will marry handsome nin Murusade.

Adiga iyo Shirib will marry naga HabarGidir aha Gifted will marry nin Abgaal. Voila love heals wounds.

Shirib, we made our bed, and we have to sleep on it. I will ask you lot in so many ways, you are fed up of HG, okay but can you move them? Beenta naga jooji, Abgaal iyo Mudulood and all others Xoog maalah.

BTW I'm partly playing devils advocate.

[Addoow]

Warsan,I only do consider my self warsan,may be abgaal or mudulood but anything bigger than that is not for me.talk of being a sub sub clanist rite.
come on,why do u have to bring iljeex into the discussion? Mudulood only is one fifth of the somali population and if we combine our strenght will our willing alliances such as xawaadle,together,we can make wonders.
warsan
what if you found that these things never existed? U have to move on with your life.
ragii kaarabiinka kaaraha ku garaacay baad leedahay waa powerless,you are a race traitor.

[Shirib]

Warsan,

I have no problem with marrying gabar Habar Gedir ah

Now yes Habar Gedir hoog oo lagu dhakaajiyo waa la lehyahay but no body really want to exercise it.

Abgaal and Mudulood aren't weak they are dumb cause they go around submitting to the Hawiye card which they get absolutely NO BENEFIT from, and only benefit people from foreign regions. Hawiye has gotten so far into your heads that you guys have forsaken your traditional neighbors and enemies for the sake of "Hawiyenimo" which again is only for the benefit of other clans not Abgaal

[Gifted]

Gifted will marry nin Abgaal.

Addoow, why are you trying to create animosity between your fellow somalis. Don't you think we as somalis have fought for too long? It's time for us to unite, not divide our selves even further.

[HoneY*GyalL]

Addoow if we aren't hawiye what are we then

Shirib what you have said is true in someway I know abgaals don't like Habar gidir because of what happened in '92 and Habar gidir don't like Abgal people either

But just like Warsan has said we should work with what we got If these 2 clans don't make up then there will never be peace in Somalia Honestly the main reason why Xamar is destructed is because of their beef

[Shirib]

The main reason Xamar is destructed is because some monkeys from Mudug think the place is theirs and are destroying it

[Warsan_Star_Muslimah]

loooooool Warsan boy, why did you delete what Ducaysane209 said? Come on he is our Somali brother! I demand he should not be discriminated against! Plus I have family in his ends.

BTW, I know what you are on about, I am Warsangeli and they never think further than that or Abgaal, and I know their thoughts on the current politics.

Shirib, wallahi we love our traditional neighbours, is you crazy, you know we heart you.

Btw, who says Abgaals submitt to the Hawiye card, Wallahi if we did (and I mean all of us) today you would have seen something similar to 'Puntland' and 'Somaliland' created in some of the Southern regions.

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Ala kulli xal, even if the Hawiye card is not working for us, we still have to work all together, or non?

Let us work with what we have.