The Somali Manifesto; Open letter to MSB in 1990

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Re: The Somali Manifesto; Open letter to MSB in 1990

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Abakar20:
Ciddii dambiyada ka gashay somaliya taariikh bay ku qoran tahay.
Cantara baqashka aad meesha lasoo fadhiisatayna waxba ka badali
meyso waxay taariikh qortay.

Qurun shisheeye soo hubeeyeen oo dalkoodi iyo dowladowdi
lagu riday oo iyaga loo isticmaalay baa dooneysaa inaad
marmarsiyo u raadiso.

Cid kaa dhageysaneysaa majirto waxaad meeshan ku
soo xarxariiqday.

islayaab baan ku leeyahay. :|
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Re: The Somali Manifesto; Open letter to MSB in 1990

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Goljano Lion wrote:We don’t want to be part of Somalia, we already have our nation Somaliland whether you like it or not. Urayso, all this bullshitt you’re posting, nayaa, you must really have some serious inferiority complex homeless jeberti dyke. The way you’re trying to make yourself a true wadani by writing all this stupid shitt as if every homeless jeberti is a true patriotic. You should be thanking full general Aidid(AUN) who gave you this wonderful chance of being the new African-Kurdish.
london which is the largest somali populated city in the west, is majoritlyy isaaq and with substantial amount of hawiye. so who is really homeless? you probably live in a shanty council house. you buy $6 for maarduuf almost everyday. and chat on somalinet on your free netzero internet connection. and when it becomes may 18th, you drink a large amount of alcohol and go to those parties, chewing on gum so nobodies knows your drunk. :lol:
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Re: The Somali Manifesto; Open letter to MSB in 1990

Post by JaMaaL-23 »

Cushite Idiot,

your hate for Dorrod stems from the fac that they incited the Hawiye, Dir, and D&M Against your Ajuuraan Kingdom.

Seriously, there is no defence case for the Hutus. they won with the guns, but lost with their feeble brains.
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Muhammad bin Harti wrote:
Goljano Lion wrote:We don’t want to be part of Somalia, we already have our nation Somaliland whether you like it or not. Urayso, all this bullshitt you’re posting, nayaa, you must really have some serious inferiority complex homeless jeberti dyke. The way you’re trying to make yourself a true wadani by writing all this stupid shitt as if every homeless jeberti is a true patriotic. You should be thanking full general Aidid(AUN) who gave you this wonderful chance of being the new African-Kurdish.
london which is the largest somali populated city in the west, is majoritlyy isaaq and with substantial amount of hawiye. so who is really homeless? you probably live in a shanty council house. you buy $6 for maarduuf almost everyday. and chat on somalinet on your free netzero internet connection. and when it becomes may 18th, you drink a large amount of alcohol and go to those parties, chewing on gum so nobodies knows your drunk. :lol:

I would like to see someone from the jeberti homeless community to step up and say WE ARE HOMELESS ONCE FOR FALL
Stop playing the blame game for your homelessness
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Re: The Somali Manifesto; Open letter to MSB in 1990

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Abakar,

I can post some stuff here that will really make some people go crazy, but I am not going to do that because I have the hope that one day Hawiye, Darod,Isaaq and other Somalis will join together and move on forward despite the dark history of 1990s.

Manifesto and USC was some of the tools used Somalia to be destroyed, because you don’t call fully functioning government to resign, while there is no government that is ready to take its place, when Manifesto were group of collected elders with no power, but could run their mouth, the USC were robbing and killing innocent people in and around Mogadishu, another example is the most active member of Manifesto Dr: Ebyan was murdered by the same people who were praising Manifesto, because of his clan was Darod.

This is not Hawiye VS Darod like Abdiwahab is making here there were many Hawiyes that were crying when they saw how USC destroyed the beautiful fabric of Somalia and blamed for Hawiye is responsible for the disaster happened in Somalia, like Abshir Bacadle, and many others (aun) muxumed culusoow said Hawiye didn’t want to rule Somalia, but Hawiye wanted two things, that was beautiful Homes belonged to Daaroods and beautiful women belonged to minority Banadiri clans, I still don’t have a single Hawiye that can give me the answer what was the justification to attack rape ,rob and to cleanse from their property the non Darod clans in the south, I know for sure Isaaq kids here are just talking trash, because they don’t neighbor and know nothing about Hawiye otherwise they would be talking today like Shirib.

The two leaders that you are eulogizing here Aideed and Ali mahdi, one is died and I am not going to disrespect the dead like others do here, but Ali Mahdi is the man who earned the Name BAD SUMEEYE. This is the guy who traded money the entire life of his people by making deal with the Italian Mafia to dumb toxic chemicals a place only few kilometers away from his house, he doesn’t even have the brain to understand, the radiation will kill him before he collect the money. I am really surprised how he survived from that shit.

Abakar, do you just bored when you post these type of threads or you are trying to get us involve this nasty clan talk here, because I don’t like dissing other Somali clans, but your fake hypothesis are dragging into me the topics are try to avoid the most, finally, you are responsible all the things I said here and stop making threads that will only aggravate past wounds and divide the Somali people ever more, because it doesn’t serve the interest of anyone here.
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Re: The Somali Manifesto; Open letter to MSB in 1990

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Ureysoo wrote:Somali Naago Movement aka SNM...

So basically, Somalinimo ended when Siyad Barre attacked Hargeisa (or shall I say today's Somaliland)?. Seriously, do u think before u type ur hooey?.

U telling us Somaliland felt the need of seceding when Siyad Barre assaulted them?. It was like a counter-movement 2 his oppression?. If that's the case, how does this portray and represent ur people?. Knowing the fact, a lot of kinfolks (including Darood sub-clans) experienced the wrath of Siyad Barre, and yet managed to overcome the past events. Why can't ur ilk come into terms with it, instead of hanging on 2 a feeling of resentment hitherto?. There's a difference between outlining facts, and holding grudges, and u are exhibiting the latter, Ninyahow.

Above all this, they have the audacity to claim patriotism, Cajiib.....

ureeyso,

we dont have to justify ourselves or explain anything..
we have suceded becuase we wanted to..

simple as that...

stop your whining, concentrate on rebuilding somalia, and leave us alone
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Re: The Somali Manifesto; Open letter to MSB in 1990

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Analyzing the manifesto is useless b/c what happened happened. it will not bring the country back or reenact what was lost in the civil war. if anything, what happened after MSB was toppled is what i think is more important, and unfortunately we know what that is. we got people that were looking for a land to settle than a country to run. we got mooryaan that looted public offices and properties than tending to the needs of its citizens. what did they fight for and do with the opportunity? dont waste your time on a piece of paper, everybody knows the real problem with Somalia, but who is going to admit it? focked up my one and only one family :lol:
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Re: The Somali Manifesto; Open letter to MSB in 1990

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Voltage wrote:What the CIA wrote about Zoomaalis before Siad even took power.

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http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/54644.pdf

The CIA probably wrote and identical report for dozens of African countries after independence with a plethora of tribes and ethnic tensions. Those countries are still functioning today, Somalia is not that will tell you that it is afweynes manipulation and brutal dictatorship that led to the civil war..not the rivalries that existed in all of post colonial Africa
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Re: The Somali Manifesto; Open letter to MSB in 1990

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Addoow wrote:Hawiyes are themselves victims of USC.

Could have been the smartest quote in this thread, and the smartest Hawiye. Mogadishu or Shabeelaha didn't see 1 day of peace in 20 years.
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Murax wrote:
Addoow wrote:Hawiyes are themselves victims of USC.

Could have been the smartest quote in this thread, and the smartest Hawiye. Mogadishu or Shabeelaha didn't see 1 day of peace in 20 years.
bro,there is no hawiye VS daarood bullshit! as some may like to make it.
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Re: The Somali Manifesto; Open letter to MSB in 1990

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mahdi01 wrote:Abakar,

I can post some stuff here that will really make some people go crazy, but I am not going to do that because I have the hope that one day Hawiye, Darod,Isaaq and other Somalis will join together and move on forward despite the dark history of 1990s.

Manifesto and USC was some of the tools used Somalia to be destroyed, because you don’t call fully functioning government to resign, while there is no government that is ready to take its place, when Manifesto were group of collected elders with no power, but could run their mouth, the USC were robbing and killing innocent people in and around Mogadishu, another example is the most active member of Manifesto Dr: Ebyan was murdered by the same people who were praising Manifesto, because of his clan was Darod.

This is not Hawiye VS Darod like Abdiwahab is making here there were many Hawiyes that were crying when they saw how USC destroyed the beautiful fabric of Somalia and blamed for Hawiye is responsible for the disaster happened in Somalia, like Abshir Bacadle, and many others (aun) muxumed culusoow said Hawiye didn’t want to rule Somalia, but Hawiye wanted two things, that was beautiful Homes belonged to Daaroods and beautiful women belonged to minority Banadiri clans, I still don’t have a single Hawiye that can give me the answer what was the justification to attack rape ,rob and to cleanse from their property the non Darod clans in the south, I know for sure Isaaq kids here are just talking trash, because they don’t neighbor and know nothing about Hawiye otherwise they would be talking today like Shirib.

The two leaders that you are eulogizing here Aideed and Ali mahdi, one is died and I am not going to disrespect the dead like others do here, but Ali Mahdi is the man who earned the Name BAD SUMEEYE. This is the guy who traded money the entire life of his people by making deal with the Italian Mafia to dumb toxic chemicals a place only few kilometers away from his house, he doesn’t even have the brain to understand, the radiation will kill him before he collect the money. I am really surprised how he survived from that shit.

Abakar, do you just bored when you post these type of threads or you are trying to get us involve this nasty clan talk here, because I don’t like dissing other Somali clans, but your fake hypothesis are dragging into me the topics are try to avoid the most, finally, you are responsible all the things I said here and stop making threads that will only aggravate past wounds and divide the Somali people ever more, because it doesn’t serve the interest of anyone here.
You see, people like you suffer from paranoia. You can throw at me all the amount of human rights abuses and suffering which happened in 1991 but the fact is, 1991 does not make the gov't of MSB any better than it was. I don't blame MSB for the problems at the moment, but i get annoyed when people begin to think his gov't is the solution to everything. All i want, is for you guys to admit that MSB's gov't was a dictatorship, not a Godsend. That's all.
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Re: The Somali Manifesto; Open letter to MSB in 1990

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yawle wrote:The Somali civilwar has yet to finish. There is few more rounds to go specialy in the north.

:shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The Somali Manifesto; Open letter to MSB in 1990

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mahdi01 wrote:Abakar,

I can post some stuff here that will really make some people go crazy, but I am not going to do that because I have the hope that one day Hawiye, Darod,Isaaq and other Somalis will join together and move on forward despite the dark history of 1990s.

Manifesto and USC was some of the tools used Somalia to be destroyed, because you don’t call fully functioning government to resign, while there is no government that is ready to take its place, when Manifesto were group of collected elders with no power, but could run their mouth, the USC were robbing and killing innocent people in and around Mogadishu, another example is the most active member of Manifesto Dr: Ebyan was murdered by the same people who were praising Manifesto, because of his clan was Darod.

This is not Hawiye VS Darod like Abdiwahab is making here there were many Hawiyes that were crying when they saw how USC destroyed the beautiful fabric of Somalia and blamed for Hawiye is responsible for the disaster happened in Somalia, like Abshir Bacadle, and many others (aun) muxumed culusoow said Hawiye didn’t want to rule Somalia, but Hawiye wanted two things, that was beautiful Homes belonged to Daaroods and beautiful women belonged to minority Banadiri clans, I still don’t have a single Hawiye that can give me the answer what was the justification to attack rape ,rob and to cleanse from their property the non Darod clans in the south, I know for sure Isaaq kids here are just talking trash, because they don’t neighbor and know nothing about Hawiye otherwise they would be talking today like Shirib.

The two leaders that you are eulogizing here Aideed and Ali mahdi, one is died and I am not going to disrespect the dead like others do here, but Ali Mahdi is the man who earned the Name BAD SUMEEYE. This is the guy who traded money the entire life of his people by making deal with the Italian Mafia to dumb toxic chemicals a place only few kilometers away from his house, he doesn’t even have the brain to understand, the radiation will kill him before he collect the money. I am really surprised how he survived from that shit.

Abakar, do you just bored when you post these type of threads or you are trying to get us involve this nasty clan talk here, because I don’t like dissing other Somali clans, but your fake hypothesis are dragging into me the topics are try to avoid the most, finally, you are responsible all the things I said here and stop making threads that will only aggravate past wounds and divide the Somali people ever more, because it doesn’t serve the interest of anyone here.
You killed it sxb. :up:
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Re: The Somali Manifesto; Open letter to MSB in 1990

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You see, people like you suffer from paranoia. You can throw at me all the amount of human rights abuses and suffering which happened in 1991 but the fact is, 1991 does not make the gov't of MSB any better than it was. I don't blame MSB for the problems at the moment, but i get annoyed when people begin to think his gov't is the solution to everything. All i want, is for you guys to admit that MSB's gov't was a dictatorship, not a Godsend. That's all.
Abakar20,

These Siyadist kids think that the anarchy post-1991 can vindicate Barre's dictatorship. Just like the silly Yusufite kids in here were running a campaign of ''A.Yusuf vindicated''.

Also, if we use their own childesh reasoning we can say that the SYL government of 1960-1969 was vindicated of the evils corruption, clannism, nepotism and mismanagment since the dictatorship of Barre brought those evils to dazzling high level.

So, as long as they play childesh games keep repeating the crimes commited by Barre's dictatorship. :up:
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Re: The Somali Manifesto; Open letter to MSB in 1990

Post by CUSHITE KINGDOM »

JaMaaL-23 wrote:Cushite Idiot,

your hate for Dorrod stems from the fac that they incited the Hawiye, Dir, and D&M Against your Ajuuraan Kingdom.

Seriously, there is no defence case for the Hutus. they won with the guns, but lost with their feeble brains.
i see someone is upset from reading the truth:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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