Ina Cabdirashid Cali Sharmaake

[gemini07]

700 or more puntland soldiers are currently fighting in Xamar because of him.

Do you guys support his decision ?

I want them to join Mucaskar Caanoole and move to Kismaayo

[Cusmano]

I Think the army should constitute from every region a specific share...not just one region takes the whole shoulder of it...we have given alot to the tfg but what has the tfg given puntland back...that's what i am trying to figure out

But as far as puntland obligations in the tfg, unfortunately gemini it is neccessary evil that we must burden to contribute our share, but not over contribute and let other tribes get out of their doing their bit...but i understand fully where u

[gemini07]

Those Soldiers are there to protect our stake and Ina Cabdirashid.

He should just resign and join the Pl gov,Those soldiers should join their Brothers Caanoole or come back home !

[Cusmano]

Gemini the tfg is as you can see is still transitioning..it can't sort out these issues whilst these terrorists are attacking them from every left, right and center..but it will change...i don't know how their going to work out army arrangements and contributions...maybe quota system for each state to contribute soldiers in the army..but the main thing is gemini u need to remember the puntland soldiers are not there defending cali sharmarke or sharif or anyone...but their defending the constitution that was written...the constitution being the federal framework and democracy in somalia...

[gemini07]

Waa Sidaas

[MrPrestige]

whats so special about Cabdirashid - the abgaals dont care much about shariff why should the mjs care about 1 man ----- if he quits the somalia government then mj will still want to replace it with anthor mj - why are mj abusing the privelages and not let other clans the Hg take PM post

[Cusmano]

Gemini and like you said if sheikh moryan sharif decides to do away with the federal arrangement and secular democracy...well then our boys have no need being in that hell hole mogadishu and they will come back home then...and like u said earlier the before puntland will then definitely declare indepedence...and we have better case to put forward to the international community then shankaronia land...

We can say to the international community then...look we tried uniting somalis under a fair federal arragement where all tribes are equal and all states manage their affairs, but sharif has decided to do away this fair policy and established a islamist based terror government like iran where he wants to be dictator and not allow autonomy for regional governments to manage their affairs...therefore we can tell the international community as u can see tlheir clearly in the wrong..not us and we tried our best but these ppl are just seeking chaos n havoc and therefore we want indepedence for puntland so we can guarantee the international community secular democratic region in puntland that safeguards gulf of aden strategic location shipping lane so ships can sail past in peace..and for the past 10 years we been building our state as track record for u to see and we want to keep improving it...the international community will then say "before those islamist rule somalia and put our gulf of aden shipping lane in trouble" lets recognise this region because it is in our interest...

Aduunka sidaas ayuu u sheegaya...noone gives u indepedence because u just been peaceful region with stability...that is bonus to include that but it isn't the deciding factor...the deciding factor is the international community interest...and international community interest is to pass safely by gulf of aden and if puntland can achieve that for them they will say "lets recognize them"...and we are our new country...but that's only if it turns badly with sharif...

[MrPrestige]

Gemini and like you said if sheikh moryan sharif decides to do away with the federal arrangement and secular democracy...well then our boys have no need being in that hell hole mogadishu and they will come back home then...and like u said earlier the before puntland will then definitely declare indepedence...and we have better case to put forward to the international community then shankaronia land...

We can say to the international community then...look we tried uniting somalis under a fair federal arragement where all tribes are equal and all states manage their affairs, but sharif has decided to do away this fair policy and established a islamist based terror government like iran where he wants to be dictator and not allow autonomy for regional governments to manage their affairs...therefore we can tell the international community as u can see tlheir clearly in the wrong..not us and we tried our best but these ppl are just seeking chaos n havoc and therefore we want indepedence for puntland so we can guarantee the international community secular democratic region in puntland that safeguards gulf of aden strategic location shipping lane so ships can sail past in peace..and for the past 10 years we been building our state as track record for u to see and we want to keep improving it...the international community will then say "before those islamist rule somalia and put our gulf of aden shipping lane in trouble" lets recognise this region because it is in our interest...

Aduunka sidaas ayuu u sheegaya...noone gives u indepedence because u just been peaceful region with stability...that is bonus to include that but it isn't the deciding factor...the deciding factor is the international community interest...and international community interest is to pass safely by gulf of aden and if puntland can achieve that for them they will say "lets recognize them"...and we are our new country...but that's only if it turns badly with sharif...

lool the most ridiclous statement what grounds does puntland have to break off just because sheikh shariff decided to not to use Federal

[Cusmano]

Duceysane i am not here to teach you how the international community operates...firstly somaliland being peaceful with stability won't cutt the mustard for the international community..they have an interest to be on good notes with the african union as they have arrangements with member states of that country like egypt, angola, south africa, etc...

So what do the african union think of somaliland...jack zilch...that is the fact, african union will not recognize somaliland and want somaliland to take part in future somalia is the last memo i read from their site...noone cares if u want to like that or not THAT IS THE FACTS OF WHAT THEY WANT...what they want is more important for the west then what u want...do u understand bro? or are u just dummy...

African union especially with gaddafi who is elected as the AU president.. wants a united africa and african union listen to big power states in it's membership....So lets assess them one by one...1.egypt doesn't want to see separate somaliland because it want's strong somalia to keep ethiopia busy away from nile issue that egypt is having with ethiopia...2.djibouti doesn't want to see somaliland because they want to see united somalia just incase shit turns ugly with eritrea and also the monopoly they have ethiopia using their port an indepedent somalia would mean djibouti would compete with somaliland to get ethiopia to use it's port...they dont want that hassle....3. Ethiopia doesn't want to see indepedence given to somaliland because oromia and ogaden and every other disgruntled tribe in their region will explode with new indepedence....4. Sudan wants united somalia to have another muslim state on the south of ethiopia for strategic purposes if a war ever break out sudan can take then from northside, somalia and djibouti from south end and entrap ethiopia...

Those are the main powers of of the north east africa members i just stated for u that are members of AU and who the AU only cares to listen to their opinion...AU would never want to make egypt angry or ethiopia for some little state that has no extra benefit for them...

The west will step in and look at what the AU says because that is where it matters for them as they have alliances formed with countries who are members of that AU...

As for puntland the only reason we have better ground for indepedence is strategic location it bypasses the AU and arab league because ppl of every nation use the gulf of aden shipping lane...this is now gone outside of AU control ...so that's why we can be an exception to international community where they won't care what the AU thinks anymore and say "abaha ku was danteen weeye gulf of aden" and that is why i said puntland has stronger ground then any other region in east africa for indepedence if we ever decide to take that route...because we dont need to go thru AU...if we did then we would be like somaliland boat...we can straight appeal to the nations of the west and arabia and every nation that uses the gulf of aden and set out our promises to safeguard the sea in return we want recognition....

[Cusmano]

Duceysane i am sick of educating jahils go study and learn how the world operates...don't come to snet and learn from me..

[Cusmano]

Duceysane so do you see the west doesnt have anything of interest in somaliland...there is no place in anyway shape or form where somaliland effects the west in any way...the only way is african union for somaliland...the west will listen to african union if they give somaliland indepedence because they want to remain solid with their allies on that continent...but thats the only monopoly they have...somaliland only route to indepedence is the AU and i told u what the AU thinks...

[Cusmano]

Somaliland dumb president take trips to uk and usa and somalilanders are jumping up n down like clowns...somalidaa kale lala tag sheekadas...lakin dont come to mj with sheekadas ok....there is no point for dahir rayale to visit these countries to gain support...where does the usa need from somaliland, what does britain need from somaliland that is so important...nothing...nothing economical, nothing military, nothing at all...the only thing maybe they have is berbera airbase...is america going to jepordise egypt alliance for berbera airbase?...loooool caqli xumo idor ba laga arka...change ur leaders man and tell them rather then going to uk and usa for indepedence awareness to sit outside addis ababa AU headquarters shoe shining for the members as they walk up n down the building...thats your best hope...the AU route only...and the AU will never go out n risk for state that holds nothing for them and recognize them and make egypt and ethiopia and sudan and neighbouring regions angry...it's simply not in their interest...

[MrPrestige]

you bothered to write 3 pages for me what a Frustrated cuqdad ridden kid - somaliland will get recognition if allah willing inshallah

but as for puntland they have no choice but to stay part of somalia you will be controlled from xamar



Nothing can stop somaliland expect allah word

[Cusmano]

Duceysane i wrote that for you to show yout how the world operates which u obviously fail to understand. u seem to think having may 18, singing a few songs, and coming to somali forums and saying "qaran baan nahay" will cutt the mustard, i tell u this not because of cuqdad but because frankly your ppl embarass all somalis worldwide..that's why i gave u detailed look on how the world operates...so u can stop embarassing us and making us all look like idiots

[Cusmano]

Duceysane, see most somalis are jahil and just hear something and accept it without truly assessing what their hearing against the realities of the world...im saving u from ppl laughing at u in public and saying look at those dumb somalis thinking their going to get indepedence...im saving u the embarassment..inshallah is not going to help change the reality of the world...the world follows principal called interests...somaliland holds no interest for them..so indepedence u can sit there n die with it..but just change the name from somali so u don't make us look like idiots..