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ahl-us-sunnah creed: arabs are the nobelist nation.

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Islaam gains or loses its glory, repute and honour with that of its adherents, be they Arabs or non-Arabs, and as a hadeeth states “there is no superiority of the Arabs over the non-Arabs except by Taqwaa.” That said, it might be pointed out that as a people and nation Allaah, Subhaanuhu wa ta’ala, has preferred the Arabs over all other peoples (by virtue of having raised His last Prophet among them). This is my opinion even though I am Albanian. This is also the opinion of Ahl us-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah. It has a basis in various ahadeeth reported on the subject. One of them
says, “From the sons of Ibraaheem, Allaah chose Ismaa’eel, from Ismaa’eel sons, Banu Kinaanah, from the sons of Banu Kinaanah, the Quraysh, from the Quraysh, Banu Haashim and from them Allaah chose me.” The hadeeth has been recorded by Ahmad (4/107), Tirmidhi (4/392) who declares it Saheeh, as it is also in Saheeh Muslim (7/84), Bukhaaree has also recorded it in his at-Tareekh as-Sagheer (p.6) through Wathilah bin ‘Aqsa’. The hadeeth is strengthened by another related thrugh a second chain of transmitters starting with ‘Abbaas bin ‘Abdul-Muttalib which is to be found in Tirmidhi (who declared it Saheeh) as well as in Ahmad. Anther version is to be found through Ibn ‘Umar as recorded by Haakim (4/84) who also confirms its authenticity.

Nevertheless this should not lead an Arab to have pride in his nationality. Such national pride belongs to the Jaahiliyyah days which the Prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wassallam) destroyed. Nor should the Arabs forget the fact that it was their intelligence, language and character that led to their choice as the first bearers of the message of Islaam. If an Arab realizes this today then he is more likely to guard those qualities and take it upon himself as a duty to spread the word of Islaam. But if he abandons them, then he has no superiority over anyone. In fact, a non-Arab who bears the same qualities is, without any doubt whatsoever, superior to an Arab. True superiority then comes from following the guidance the Prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wassallam) brought, and can be gained by anyone who qualifies himself with the qualities approved by Islaam such as Eemaan, virtue, righteous living, Ihsaan etc. The Prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wassallam) said, “He who was left behind by his actions will not be brought forward by his lineage.” In short, true merit is in adorning oneself with certain qualities. When those qualities are lost, the merit is lost: “There is no superiority of an Arab over a non-Arab except by Taqwaa.”[/b]
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note: darod and isaaq aren't arab....just bunch of fairy tales.
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That said, it might be pointed out that as a people and nation Allaah, Subhaanuhu wa ta’ala, has preferred the Arabs over all other peoples (by virtue of having raised His last Prophet among them). This is my opinion even though I am Albanian
Is it possible that Allah {swt} chose his last prophet as the best of men among the filthiest of people ?

Dhinac na wuxu ka yidhi ninkaa Albanian-ka ah , ummad oo dhan bay dhaaman , dhinaca kale wuxu ka yidhi cidna ka ma sareeyan :lol:
Kan Ogafdeen na waa ku soo xidhay oo wuxu yidhi " waxaad sheegatan oo dhan baa been ah !"

War ma anigaa walan mise :lol: , Peshawar baa laga heesaya :lol:
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Ina Baxar wrote:
That said, it might be pointed out that as a people and nation Allaah, Subhaanuhu wa ta’ala, has preferred the Arabs over all other peoples (by virtue of having raised His last Prophet among them). This is my opinion even though I am Albanian
Is it possible that Allah {swt} chose his last prophet as the best of men among the filthiest of people ?
heretic or ignorance?
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Sheikh-ul-Islam, Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) was of the opinion that Arabs are superior (Afdal) than Non-Arabs and he claimed that this was the view that was held by the MAJORITY of the scholars – ‘Al-Jamhoor’-
MAJORITY of scholars are of the opinion that the Arab species is better (Afdal) than the Non-Arab (species) just as the nation of Quraish is better (Afdal) than the Non-Quraishite nations and (just as) the nation of Bani Haashim is better (Afdal) than the Non-Bani Haashim (nations).” Majm’u Al-Fataawa 19/29
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Okay , abu cagdheer , do you know how many times YOU and your Albanian source here are contradicting themselves ?

Aqligu ma futada ayuu kaa saaranyahay , mise waxan aad soo qortaad fahmi la'dahay?
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Islam has no place for racial superiority

And the Prophet SAW said it in his last khutbah, so I say screw what these guys are saying.
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It just simply unbelievable ! :lol:
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FAH1223 wrote:Islam has no place for racial superiority

And the Prophet SAW said it in his last khutbah, so I say screw what these guys are saying.
FAH said whatever i wanned to say
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Somali-Star wrote:arabs/banu hashim nobility over the other tribes/races can't be denied by anyone who believes in allah and the last day. why? becuse the creed of ahl-us-sunnah wal jamaah demands it.

it's the ahl-us-sunnah belief that the arabs are categorically better than all non-arabs; the quraysh being the best of the arabs; and banu hashim being the best of the quraysh. so the banu hashim are the best of the best. cream of the cream if you will. allah has preferred the arabs over non-arabs by sending them the last prophet (saw) and the last message to them, in their language, becuse of the superiority of their virtues, lifestyle and language. and not only was the last prophet send to them but also our deen, i.e. deen al-islam, inherited much of their way of life and traditions. now why is it part of the ahl-us-sunnah belief to believe that categorically arabs are better than non-arabs and are more noble? a) allah has shown his preference of arabs over others by sending the last prophet (saw) and last message, in its final and complete form, to them; b) the prophet (saw) himself said that his lineage is the noblest and the best of the best. and the manhaj of ahl-us-sunnah is to blindly accept the word of allah swt and his messenger saw. so denying that the arabs are the best of the best, can, depending on one's ignorance, make you a heretic.

now categorically are arabs better than non-arabs just becuse they happen to be arabs? no, arabs are categorically better and preferred over non-arabs becuse of the qualities and virtues that they possess which others don't possess in the same quality, or may not even possess at all. are all arabs better than all non-arabs? of course not! as a group - yes. but there are many non-arabs who are better than the vast majority of arabs. and on yawm al-qiyama, when everyone will be naked in front of their creator, your lineage will not help you at all, only the level of your piety and deeds will matter.
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you guys remind me of:
2:34

“ وَإِذۡ قُلۡنَا لِلۡمَلَـٰٓٮِٕكَةِ ٱسۡجُدُواْ لِأَدَمَ فَسَجَدُوٓاْ إِلَّآ إِبۡلِيسَ أَبَىٰ وَٱسۡتَكۡبَرَ وَكَانَ مِنَ ٱلۡكَـٰفِرِينَ (٣٤) ”

And behold, We said to the angels: "Bow down to Adam" and they bowed down. Not so Iblis: he refused and was haughty: He was of those who reject Faith.
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lol abu agdeer.
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SomaliStar..where do u get all this weird nonsense from??
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Somali-Star the only ignorant or heretic in this topic is you. The prophet's last ever sermon
All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab is not superior over a non Arab nor a non Arab is superior over an Arab; also a white is not superior over a black nor a black is superior over a white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves.

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From the sons of Ibraaheem, Allaah chose Ismaa’eel, from Ismaa’eel sons, Banu Kinaanah, from the sons of Banu Kinaanah, the Quraysh, from the Quraysh, Banu Haashim and from them Allaah chose me.”
This hadith contradicts quran and many other ahaadith so i have rejected it and want nothing to do with.

If arabs were noble and blessed would they do this:
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Defending the ´´ holy president bush´´ from a dirty muslim:
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The girls look shy when meeting muslimkiller Ariel Sharon:
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So please dont tell me arabs are the noblest. Umar ibn al khattab r.a blasted at arabs and said if they reject islam,reject jihad and seek support from panarabism they will be humiliated.
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