Discovery Channel Proves the Qur'an to be the word of God !!

[Advo]

[Gatspy]

Truly amazing, they still chose not to believe even as profound as the Qur'an is.

[Voltage]

How can an illiterate man in 4th century dark Arabia come up with these very now proven scientific examples:

The Miracle of Birth

[We] then formed the drop into a clot and formed the clot into a lump and formed the lump into bones and clothed the bones in flesh; and then brought him into being as another creature. Blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators! (Qur'an, 23:14)

THE QUR'AN WRITING ABOUT THE NOW ACCEPTED THREE TRIMESTERS OF BIRTH

He creates you stage by stage in your mothers' wombs in threefold darkness. That is Allah, your Lord. Sovereignty is His. There is no god but Him. So what has made you deviate? (Qur'an, 39:6)

ISLAM WRITING ABOUT THE ORBIT OF THE MOON AND SAYING THE ORBIT IS A "SPHERE" AT A TIME WHEN PPL THOUGH EARTH WAS FLAT AND DID NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND CONCEPT OF MOON

And We have decreed set phases for the moon, until it ends up looking like an old date branch. It is not for the sun to overtake the moon nor for the night to outstrip the day; each one is swimming in a sphere. (Qur'an, 36:39-40)

CORRECT CALCULATION OF THE LUNAR YEAR

In former times a month was calculated as the time between two full moons, or the time it took the Moon to travel around the Earth. According to this, one month was equal to 29 days, 12 hours and 44 minutes. This is known as the "lunar month." Twelve lunar months represent one year, according to the Hijri calendar. However, there is a difference of eleven days between the Hijri calendar and the Gregorian calendar, in which a year is the time it takes the Earth to orbit the Sun. Indeed, attention is drawn to this difference in another verse:

They stayed in their Cave for three hundred years and added nine. (Qur'an, 18:25)

We can clarify the time referred to in the verse thus: 300 years x 11 days (the difference which forms every year) = 3,300 days. Bearing in mind that one solar year lasts 365 days, 5 hours, 48 minutes and 45.5 seconds, 3,300 days/365.24 days = 9 years. To put it another way, 300 years according to the Gregorian calendar is equal to 300+9 years according to the Hijri calendar. As we can see, the verse refers to this finely calculated difference of 9 years. (Allah knows best.) There is no doubt that the Qur'an, which contains such pieces of information, which transcended the everyday knowledge of the time, is a miraculous revelation.

THE QUR'AN DESCRIBING THE FACT THE EARTH IS ROTATING

You will see the mountains and reckon them to be solid; but they go past like clouds-the handiwork of Allah Who gives to everything its solidity. He is aware of what you do. (Qur'an, 27:88)

THE QUR'AN DESCRIBING THE NOW ACCEPTED 7 LAYERS OF THE ATMOSPHERE

It is He Who created everything on the earth for you and then directed His attention up to heaven and arranged it into seven regular heavens. He has knowledge of all things. (Qur'an, 2:29)

Then He turned to heaven when it was smoke. In two days He determined them as seven heavens and revealed, in every heaven, its own mandate. (Qur'an, 41:11-12)

Scientist now approve the seven layers of atmosphere: 1. Troposphere 2. Stratosphere 3. Mesosphere 4. Thermosphere 5. Exosphere 6. Ionosphere 7. Magnetosphere.

THE QUR'AN DESCRIBING THE NOW ACCEPTED 7 LAYERS OF THE EARTH

It is Allah Who created the seven heavens and of the earth the same number, the Command descending down through all of them, so that you might know that Allah has power over all things and that Allah encompasses all things in His knowledge. (Qur'an, 65:12)

Scientists now approve the seven layers of the earth: 1st layer: Lithosphere (water) 2nd layer: Lithosphere (land) 3rd layer: Asthenosphere 4th layer: Upper Mantle 5th layer: Inner Mantle 6th layer: Outer Core 7th layer: Inner Core

THE QUR'AN DESCRIBING THE FORMATION OF PETROL/OIL BEFORE THE CONCEPT WAS EVEN KNOWN TO MAN

Glorify the Name of your Lord, the Most High: He Who created and moulded; He Who determined and guided; He Who brings forth green pasture, then makes it blackened stubble. (Qur'an, 87:1-5)

THE QUR'AN MENTIONS THE RELATIVITY OF TIME A THOUSAND YEARS BEFORE EINSTEIN

A day with your Lord is equivalent to a thousand years in the way you count. (Qur'an, 22:47)

He directs the whole affair from heaven to earth. Then it will again ascend to Him on a Day whose length is a thousand years by the way you measure. (Qur'an, 32:5)

The angels and the Spirit ascend to Him in a day whose length is fifty thousand years. (Qur'an, 70:4)

and ONE OF THE MOST AMAZING OF ALL, ISLAM DESCRIBES THE EARTH WAS MADE IN 16 BILLION EARTH YEARS, THE SAME TIME SPAN ACCEPTED BY SCIENTISTS!

Your Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six days and then settled Himself firmly on the Throne... (Qur'an, 7:54)

One example of the harmony between the Qur'an and modern science is the subject of the age of the universe. Cosmologists estimate the age of the universe as 16-17 billion years. The Qur'an states that the entire universe was created in six days. These two time frames, which may seem contradictory, are actually surprisingly compatible. In fact, both these figures concerning the age of the universe are correct. In other words, the universe was created in six days, as revealed in the Qur'an, and this period corresponds to 16-17 billion years in the way that we experience time.

In 1915 Einstein proposed that time was relative, that the passage of time altered according to space, the speed of the person travelling and the force of gravity at that moment. Bearing in mind these differences in the passage of time, the period of time in which the universe was created as revealed in seven different verses of the Qur'an is actually highly compatible with scientists' estimations. The six-day period revealed in the Qur'an can be thought of as six periods. Because, taking into account the relativity of time, a "day" refers only to a 24-hour period experienced on Earth under current conditions. Elsewhere in the universe, however, at another time and under other conditions, a "day" could refer to a much longer period of time. Indeed, the word "ayyamin" in the period of six days (sittati ayyamin) in these verses (Qur'an 32:4, 10:3, 11:7, 25:59, 57:4, 50:38, and 7:54) means not only "days," but also "age, period, moment, term."

In the first period of the universe, the passage of time took place much faster than that with which we are familiar today. The reason for this is that, at the moment of the Big Bang, our universe was compressed into a very small point. The expansion of the universe and increase in its volume ever since the moment of that explosion has extended the borders of the universe to millions of light years. Indeed, the stretching of space ever since that moment has had very important ramifications for universal time.

The energy at the moment of the Big Bang slowed down the flow of time 1012 (one million million) times. When the universe was created the speed of universal time was higher up to a million million times, as time is experienced today. In other words, a million million minutes on Earth is the equivalent of just one minute in universal time.

When a six-day period of time is calculated according to the relativity of time, it equates to six million million (six trillion) days. That is because universal time flows a million million times faster than time on Earth. Calculated in terms of years, 6 trillion days equates to approximately 16.427 billion years. This is within the estimated range for the age of the universe.

6,000,000,000,000 days/365.25 = 16.427104723 billion years

THE QUR'AN WRITES ABOUT COMBUSTION WITHOUT FIRE, ELECTRICTY

Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The metaphor of His Light is that of a niche in which is a lamp, the lamp inside a glass, the glass like a brilliant star, lit from a blessed tree, an olive, neither of the east nor of the west, its oil all but giving off light even if no fire touches it. Light upon Light. Allah guides to His Light whoever He wills and Allah makes metaphors for mankind and Allah has knowledge of all things. (Qur'an, 24:35)

QUR'AN WRITES ABOUT POLLINATION, AND THE MIRACLE OF HONEY

Your Lord revealed to the bees: "Build dwellings in the mountains and the trees, and also in the structures which men erect. Then eat from every kind of fruit and travel the paths of your Lord, which have been made easy for you to follow." From inside them comes a drink of varying colours, containing healing for mankind. There is certainly a Sign in that for people who reflect. (Qur'an, 16:69)

QUR'AN WRITES ABOUT THE UNIQUENESS OF FINGER PRINTS AS IDENTITY

Yes, We are able to put together in perfect order the very tips of his fingers. (Qur'an, 75:4)

QUR'AN WRITES ABOUT THE SUN'S TRAJECTORY

It is He Who created night and day and the sun and moon, each one swimming in a sphere. (Qur'an, 21:33)

And the sun runs to its resting place. That is the decree of the Almighty, the All-Knowing. (Qur'an, 36:38)

[Mr. Yungnfresh]

SubxaanAllah! That video was amazing Wallahi. Further to that video, Allah SWT also mentions how the earth was made as a "carpet".

"And Allah has made the earth for you as a carpet (spread out). That you may go about therein, in spacious roads." (Al-Qur’an 71:19-20)


"He Who has made for you the earth like a carpet spread out; has enabled you to go about therein by roads (and channels)...." (Al-Qur’an 20:53)


The earth’s crust (the surface we live on) is less than 30 miles thick and relatively thin compared to the radius of the earth which is about 3750 miles. The deeper layers of the earth (the molten iron layer surrounding the iron core and the scorching-hot mantle layer surrounding that layer, which is 1,800 miles thick) are very hot, fluid and inhospitable to fostering the sustenance of any form of life. The earth’s crust is a solidified shell on which we can live. The Qur’an rightly refers to it like a carpet spread out, so that we can travel along its roads and paths.

[Hoowle]

Truly amazing, they still chose not to believe even as profound as the Qur'an is.

Muslims are funny and at the same pitiful people. Why are you so gullible? There is NOTHING in the Quran that wasn't already known to people back then. NOTHING! I challenge you to prove me otherwise. Give me one verse that conveys unknown scientific knowledge in great detail.

Lets talk this verse that is supposedly "proven" by science. All that the verse said is that "And we sent down Iron", let me ask you: what's miraculous about that? All the ancients knew that some metals were carried in meteorites that fell on earth. Everyone knew that. Note that Quran DOES NOT tell us that Iron is found INSIDE stars or the elemental properties of Iron like melting point, density, number of electrons and protons and so on. All it says we sent down Iron.

Like we need God to tell us that.

[Hoowle]

[We] then formed the drop into a clot and formed the clot into a lump and formed the lump into bones and clothed the bones in flesh; and then brought him into being as another creature. Blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators! (Qur'an, 23:14)

It's from the Greeks (Galen to be specific). So humans knew that.

THE QUR'AN WRITING ABOUT THE NOW ACCEPTED THREE TRIMESTERS OF BIRTH


He creates you stage by stage in your mothers' wombs in threefold darkness. That is Allah, your Lord. Sovereignty is His. There is no god but Him. So what has made you deviate? (Qur'an, 39:6)

This verse is not clear. What does the threefold darkness actually mean?

ISLAM WRITING ABOUT THE ORBIT OF THE MOON AND SAYING THE ORBIT IS A "SPHERE" AT A TIME WHEN PPL THOUGH EARTH WAS FLAT AND DID NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND CONCEPT OF MOON

And We have decreed set phases for the moon, until it ends up looking like an old date branch. It is not for the sun to overtake the moon nor for the night to outstrip the day; each one is swimming in a sphere. (Qur'an, 36:39-40)

This is one of the clearest evidences that the Quran can not be from God. First the Quran SAYS the earth IS flat (rolled out like a carpet). If you don't agree with me read the tasfirs and Saxiix Bukhaari. Second the sun DOESN'T and CANNOT overtake the moon. The sun is the center of our solar system. So how can the moon or the sun overtake each other? This is a clear cut scientific error and please don't get angry at me for saying this.

CORRECT CALCULATION OF THE LUNAR YEAR

There is no doubt that the Qur'an, which contains such pieces of information, which transcended the everyday knowledge of the time, is a miraculous revelation.

Nope, no miraculous revelations but you can prove me wrong. And if you do, I'll accept the Quran as divinely revealed. But the evidence you bring forth MUST be clear cut evidence that is not open to various interpretations and reveals detailed knowledge (like the molecular mass and boiling point of Iron). Not vague descriptions.

THE QUR'AN DESCRIBING THE NOW ACCEPTED 7 LAYERS OF THE ATMOSPHERE

It is He Who created everything on the earth for you and then directed His attention up to heaven and arranged it into seven regular heavens. He has knowledge of all things. (Qur'an, 2:29)

Then He turned to heaven when it was smoke. In two days He determined them as seven heavens and revealed, in every heaven, its own mandate. (Qur'an, 41:11-12)

Heavens doesn't mean seven layers of the atmosphere. This is what I mean by favorable interpretation of vague verses that one can claim to reveal just about any scientific fact. The muslims, if you read the hadiths, actually believed the physical existence of "seven heavens". There is a description of these heavens with doors and so on. I remember being told these stories when I was young. But this is rip off of Sumarian/Assyrian myths. Wasn't it Sargon the first who "traversed the seven heavens?"

THE QUR'AN DESCRIBING THE FORMATION OF PETROL/OIL BEFORE THE CONCEPT WAS EVEN KNOWN TO MAN

Glorify the Name of your Lord, the Most High: He Who created and moulded; He Who determined and guided; He Who brings forth green pasture, then makes it blackened stubble. (Qur'an, 87:1-5)

THE QUR'AN MENTIONS THE RELATIVITY OF TIME A THOUSAND YEARS BEFORE EINSTEIN

A day with your Lord is equivalent to a thousand years in the way you count. (Qur'an, 22:47)

He directs the whole affair from heaven to earth. Then it will again ascend to Him on a Day whose length is a thousand years by the way you measure. (Qur'an, 32:5)

The angels and the Spirit ascend to Him in a day whose length is fifty thousand years. (Qur'an, 70:4)

these are too absurd to deserve a response, so I'll leave it at... I only quote them so that the more discerning among you can see the absurdity of muslim claims.

I will also not reply to the other absurd claims including the claim that Islam describes the earth was made in 16 billion years and theory relativity. But there is another clear cut scientific error I'll like to quote:

QUR'AN WRITES ABOUT THE SUN'S TRAJECTORY

It is He Who created night and day and the sun and moon, each one swimming in a sphere. (Qur'an, 21:33)

Sun's trajectory?

Oh boy and you guys are supposed to be in University? This again bears me out when I say religions make otherwise bright people into willful idiots.

[ModerateMuslim]

sad to see so many muslims look to the created to validate the creator. amusing if it wasn't so sad and serious.

[shaamboo]

and you guys need the Discovery chanel to make u Realize the truth about islam ??

what is next ? discovering your parents at maury show??

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Mashallah nice video. Too bad extremists like shabaab,taliban and alqaida are forcing people to leave islam while others hate the religion

[Voltage]

[We] then formed the drop into a clot and formed the clot into a lump and formed the lump into bones and clothed the bones in flesh; and then brought him into being as another creature. Blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators! (Qur'an, 23:14)

It's from the Greeks (Galen to be specific). So humans knew that.

Can you provide any evidence? I have heard of Galen but have not read anywhere explaining the miracle of birth.

THE QUR'AN WRITING ABOUT THE NOW ACCEPTED THREE TRIMESTERS OF BIRTH


He creates you stage by stage in your mothers' wombs in threefold darkness. That is Allah, your Lord. Sovereignty is His. There is no god but Him. So what has made you deviate? (Qur'an, 39:6)

This verse is not clear. What does the threefold darkness actually mean?

An illiterate man in 4th Arabia said the fetus is created in the mother's womb in threefold darkness. Today science classifies brith into three Trimesters or stages the fetus is created inside of the darkness of a mother's womb. What is not clear besides your extreme attempt to deny this miracle?

ISLAM WRITING ABOUT THE ORBIT OF THE MOON AND SAYING THE ORBIT IS A "SPHERE" AT A TIME WHEN PPL THOUGH EARTH WAS FLAT AND DID NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND CONCEPT OF MOON

And We have decreed set phases for the moon, until it ends up looking like an old date branch. It is not for the sun to overtake the moon nor for the night to outstrip the day; each one is swimming in a sphere. (Qur'an, 36:39-40)

This is one of the clearest evidences that the Quran can not be from God. First the Quran SAYS the earth IS flat (rolled out like a carpet). If you don't agree with me read the tasfirs and Saxiix Bukhaari. Second the sun DOESN'T and CANNOT overtake the moon. The sun is the center of our solar system. So how can the moon or the sun overtake each other? This is a clear cut scientific error and please don't get angry at me for saying this.

Do you know how to read? You asked how can the moon and the sun overtake each other when the sun is the center of the solar system while the Quranic verse basically says the same thing that the Sun CANNOT overtake the moon and nor vice versa. Yet you concluded this is a clear evidence the Quran is not from God when by virtue of its scientific fact that we know today it no illiterate man in 4th century Arabia could have come up with. Also the Quran says the earth is like a carpet, which it is..the fact it hugs the mantle. If I stand in China I am rooted to a flat earth in the same way if I stand across the word in South America I am the same, rooted to a flat earth that keeps me upright and balanced. The Qur'an already says multiple times that the plant is a sphere.

I am amazed you agreed with the Quran as science does today but reached concluded it is an example of a wrong.

CORRECT CALCULATION OF THE LUNAR YEAR

There is no doubt that the Qur'an, which contains such pieces of information, which transcended the everyday knowledge of the time, is a miraculous revelation.

Nope, no miraculous revelations but you can prove me wrong. And if you do, I'll accept the Quran as divinely revealed. But the evidence you bring forth MUST be clear cut evidence that is not open to various interpretations and reveals detailed knowledge (like the molecular mass and boiling point of Iron). Not vague descriptions.

Then accept the Qur'an as divine because this is clear cut evidence and it is not "up for interpretation". It is scientifically recognized differences that have been found out now, but the Quran in 4th century Arabia is correct in this mathematic and scientifict calculation of the Lunar Year. Dissect the argument and show us what you disagree with if you have an argument:

"In former times a month was calculated as the time between two full moons, or the time it took the Moon to travel around the Earth. According to this, one month was equal to 29 days, 12 hours and 44 minutes. This is known as the "lunar month." Twelve lunar months represent one year, according to the Hijri calendar. However, there is a difference of eleven days between the Hijri calendar and the Gregorian calendar, in which a year is the time it takes the Earth to orbit the Sun. Indeed, attention is drawn to this difference in another verse:

They stayed in their Cave for three hundred years and added nine. (Qur'an, 18:25)

We can clarify the time referred to in the verse thus: 300 years x 11 days (the difference which forms every year) = 3,300 days. Bearing in mind that one solar year lasts 365 days, 5 hours, 48 minutes and 45.5 seconds, 3,300 days/365.24 days = 9 years. To put it another way, 300 years according to the Gregorian calendar is equal to 300+9 years according to the Hijri calendar. As we can see, the verse refers to this finely calculated difference of 9 years. (Allah knows best.) There is no doubt that the Qur'an, which contains such pieces of information, which transcended the everyday knowledge of the time, is a miraculous revelation."

THE QUR'AN DESCRIBING THE NOW ACCEPTED 7 LAYERS OF THE ATMOSPHERE

It is He Who created everything on the earth for you and then directed His attention up to heaven and arranged it into seven regular heavens. He has knowledge of all things. (Qur'an, 2:29)

Then He turned to heaven when it was smoke. In two days He determined them as seven heavens and revealed, in every heaven, its own mandate. (Qur'an, 41:11-12)

Heavens doesn't mean seven layers of the atmosphere. This is what I mean by favorable interpretation of vague verses that one can claim to reveal just about any scientific fact. The muslims, if you read the hadiths, actually believed the physical existence of "seven heavens". There is a description of these heavens with doors and so on. I remember being told these stories when I was young. But this is rip off of Sumarian/Assyrian myths. Wasn't it Sargon the first who "traversed the seven heavens?"

Only Allah (Swt) and his angels know the conceptions, existence, the form, and the details of his heavens. Muslims are people and can have their own opinion. The Qur'an is the word of God and the Qur'an says explicity that there are 7 heavens which has been translated for centuries as "skies" or "7 skies". Today we know there are 7 "atmospheres" or layers of above.

But as important than that is the clear definition of the Earth's layer as well. Why cannot you not attack what that 4th century man in Arabia said correctly identifying that EARTH is also made up of 7 exact layers??

It is Allah Who created the seven heavens and of the earth the same number, the Command descending down through all of them, so that you might know that Allah has power over all things and that Allah encompasses all things in His knowledge. (Qur'an, 65:12)

1st layer: Lithosphere (water) 2nd layer: Lithosphere (land) 3rd layer: Asthenosphere 4th layer: Upper Mantle 5th layer: Inner Mantle 6th layer: Outer Core 7th layer: Inner Core

What is your excuse for that? The devils told him? Oh wait, you don't believe in devils so what is, the computer spoke to him in 4th century Arabia?


But there is another clear cut scientific error I'll like to quote:

QUR'AN WRITES ABOUT THE SUN'S TRAJECTORY

It is He Who created night and day and the sun and moon, each one swimming in a sphere. (Qur'an, 21:33)

Sun's trajectory?

Oh boy and you guys are supposed to be in University? This again bears me out when I say religions make otherwise bright people into willful idiots.


And illiterate man in 4th century Arabia correct identified the that the sun MOVES IN A FIXED PATTERN.. Yes, the sun's trajectory the fact that it moves. How could an illiterate man in 4th century Arabia know that?

The Qur'an also says:

And the sun runs to its resting place. That is the decree of the Almighty, the All-Knowing. (Qur'an, 36:38)

How could an illiterate man in 4th century Arabia knows what that the "still" sun even moves let alone runs in a fixed pattern, coming back to the same position something the scientific world today knows as the Solar Apex???

You my friend are deaf, dumb, and blind. Your hatred for Islam is so great and you are so closed to it you make a mockery of yourself and your ability to read or comprehend.

[Warsan_Star_Muslimah]

And We have decreed set phases for the moon, until it ends up looking like an old date branch.

This is one of the clearest evidences that the Quran can not be from God. First the Quran SAYS the earth IS flat (rolled out like a carpet). If you don't agree with me read the tasfirs and Saxiix Bukhaari.

Nonsense! Complete utter nonsense! Firstly, the Qur'an has never said the earth is flat! Okay. Secondly this is what the Qur'an said,

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"'And Allah has made the earth for you as a carpet (spread out),
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"'That ye may go about therein, in spacious roads.'"


Tafsir Ibn Kathir

[وَاللَّهُ جَعَلَ لَكُمُ الاٌّرْضَ بِسَاطاً ]

(And Allah has made for you the earth a wide expanse.) meaning, He spread it out, leveled it, settled it, and stabilized it with firm and lofty mountains.

[لِّتَسْلُكُواْ مِنْهَا سُبُلاً فِجَاجاً ]

(That you may go about therein in broad roads.) meaning, He created it so that you may settle in it and travel in it wherever you wish, from its different sides, areas and regions. All of this is from what Nuh informed them of concerning Allah's power and His greatness in creating the heavens and the earth. It demostrates the favor that He did for them by making both heavenly benefits and earthly benefits. For He is the Creator and the Sustainer Who made the heaven as a building and the earth as a bed, and He enlarged His provisions for His creatures. Therefore, He is the One Who it is obligatory to worship, and accept as One God. No one should be associated with Him as a partner, because He has no equal, peer, rival, coequal, mate, son, minister or advisor, rather He is the Most High, the Most Great.


***So where did the Qur'an say the earth is flat? Is the earth not vast and leveled, that it enables us to go from city to city and countries

It is not for the sun to overtake the moon nor for the night to outstrip the day; each one is swimming in a sphere. (Qur'an, 36:39-40)

Second the sun DOESN'T and CANNOT overtake the moon. The sun is the center of our solar system. So how can the moon or the sun overtake each other? This is a clear cut scientific error and please don't get angry at me for saying this.

I think you are repeating what the Qur'an is saying. The Ayah is saying it is NOT for the SUN to OVERTAKE the MOON. Nor for the night to outstrip the day!

There are ayahs in the Qur'an thats says some people their hearts are sealed, they'll just waste our time arguing with them. I was just so shocked at the audacity of this Hoowle person regarding the Moon and the Sun verse.

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And certainly We have set forth for men every kind of example in this Quran; and if you should bring them a communication, those who disbelieve would certainly say: You are naught but false claimants.

Jazak-allah Advo.

[Advo]

Voltage and Warsan, u guys are really patient walle...qof isdhaga tiriy, ilaahey unbaa caawin kara.

Jazak-allah Advo.

Is that why u disable ur private message, to hurt me

[Voltage]

Now the one you made fun out of, the relativity of time is going to be my favorite getting from you.

THE QUR'AN MENTIONS THE RELATIVITY OF TIME A THOUSAND YEARS BEFORE EINSTEIN

A day with your Lord is equivalent to a thousand years in the way you count. (Qur'an, 22:47)

He directs the whole affair from heaven to earth. Then it will again ascend to Him on a Day whose length is a thousand years by the way you measure. (Qur'an, 32:5)

The angels and the Spirit ascend to Him in a day whose length is fifty thousand years. (Qur'an, 70:4)

these are too absurd to deserve a response, so I'll leave it at... I only quote them so that the more discerning among you can see the absurdity of muslim claims.

I will also not reply to the other absurd claims including the claim that Islam describes the earth was made in 16 billion years and theory relativity.

How did a man in 4th century Arabia not only know that time was relative but accurately guessed the exact relativity of time that was scientifically proven the last century?

I got this from another forum no one could refute:



http://www.city-data.com/forum/religion ... n-how.html

[Voltage]

Does this guy not know Islam is the fastest growing religion in the West, In America, in Europe, etc for a reason?

Czech athiest scientists converting to Islam



English Doctor converting to Islam

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American Neuro-science professor converting to Islam

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Ex-athiest American mathematics professor converting to Islam

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etc etc etc

[Voltage]

It is not for the sun to overtake the moon nor for the night to outstrip the day; each one is swimming in a sphere. (Qur'an, 36:39-40)

Second the sun DOESN'T and CANNOT overtake the moon. The sun is the center of our solar system. So how can the moon or the sun overtake each other? This is a clear cut scientific error and please don't get angry at me for saying this.

I think you are repeating what the Qur'an is saying. The Ayah is saying it is NOT for the SUN to OVERTAKE the MOON. Nor for the night to outstrip the day!

There are ayahs in the Qur'an thats says some people their hearts are sealed, they'll just waste our time arguing with them. I was just so shocked at the audacity of this Hoowle person regarding the Moon and the Sun verse.

So am I, he basically agreed with the Qur'an but the conclusion is Qur'an is wrong. How does that work and he said that is the biggest reason the Qur'an is not from God.

That was the only time I laughed in the whole topic, because it showed me if ever there was qof qalibiga laga xiray it is this one.