All African Borders Rose from Colonial Borders

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khalid ali wrote:
ina aadan wrote:Khalid & ducaysane isaaq ma dhul la`aan baa haysa

maya sxb dad ba dhulkayaga sheeganaya markaasanu runta oo sheegayney :mrgreen:
war sanaag mayna dagin war,dhu,hj iyo hy oo waliba
ubadan warsangeli iyo habar yoonis dhukana sow
ma kala qaybsana
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Maya gobolka sanaag Ghadhweyn hy iyo Habarjeclo muse abukar iyo inyaro Warsangaly oo so raacda dagta dhulbahante na labba tuulo oo fiqafuliye iyo Jidali bay ka daggaan wa inta :mrgreen:
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Jidali is 300 people, wallahi. :lol:

I'm actually laughing at these Isaaqs------> Maakhir is for Maakhiris :up:
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Re: All African Borders Rose from Colonial Borders

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khalid ali wrote:Maya gobolka sanaag Ghadhweyn hy iyo Habarjeclo muse abukar iyo inyaro Warsangaly oo so raacda dagta dhulbahante na labba tuulo oo fiqafuliye iyo Jidali bay ka daggaan wa inta :mrgreen:
Hada ceergaabo dhulbahante ayaa ugu dhaw deegaanka laga soogalo
ghadhwen ma jilibkaloo isaaq ah baa
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ina aadan wrote:
khalid ali wrote:Maya gobolka sanaag Ghadhweyn hy iyo Habarjeclo muse abukar iyo inyaro Warsangaly oo so raacda dagta dhulbahante na labba tuulo oo fiqafuliye iyo Jidali bay ka daggaan wa inta :mrgreen:
Hada ceergaabo dhulbahante ayaa ugu dhaw deegaanka laga soogalo
ghadhwen ma jilibkaloo isaaq ah baa



sxb Gadhweyn also known as the LongBeards - they are a sub clan of the wider Cismaicil Carre - HY - this is Gadhweyn Below - there is some sections missing




Muuse Ismaaiil
The Muuse Ismaaciil sub-clan of the Habar Yoonis is the second in population after the Cabdalle Ismaaciil. They inhabit the Sanaag region of Somaliland, and some parts of Sool around the district of Xudun. Some sections of the Muuse Ismaaciil (reer Cawl) settle in Burco and parts of Ethopia around Gorgor and Qalocan area of Wardheer district. They traditionally had their own sultan who governed the eastern sections of the Habar Yoonis.

Sultaan Ducaale Muuse(1890-1955)was the first M.Ismaaciil sultan
Sultaan Cali Suldaan Ducaale (1920-1977)
Sultaan Rashid Sultan Cali the present sultan (b.1955).
Muuse Ismaaciil tribal divisions are:

Salax Muuse
Maxamed Muuse (urursuge)
Saalax Muuse ( Tuurwaa)
Yoonis Muuse.
The Tuurwaa are the most numerous and they are three sections:

Muuse Tuurwaa
Jibriil Tuurwaa (Xasan and Yoonis) (Qori Jarato)
Cismaan Tuurwaa
The Cismaan and the Muuse Tuurwaa are the main divisions in terms of population in this stage of segmentation and they spilt as the following:

Cismaan Tuurwaaa:

Xaamud Cismaan
Cawl Cismaan (reer Cawl)
Xaamud Cismaan, 3 sections:

Maxamud Xaamud
Cabdale Xaamud
Cabdi Xaamud
Cawl Cismaan, Ugaadhyahan Cawl (1 son) ,
Beyle Ugaadhyahan Cawl
Faarax Ugaadhyahan Cawl
The Beyle Ugaahyahan are the largest and are the traditional enemy of the Daarood (Dhulbahante) sub-clan, this is the only major H.Y sub-clan that shares land with the Dhulbahante in the Hawd region. From this section of the clan hails the famous Guba poet Yawle.

Beyle Ugaadhyahan

Maax Beyle
Gadiid Beyle
Cismaan Beyle (Yawle's sub-clan)
Adan Beyle.
Notice some sub-clan division are missing, specially the Muuse Tuurwaa the second largest in Muuse Ismaaciil.





and this is their Younger Brother - which before they were both were a coalition called Gadhweyn



Yoonis Ismaaciil
Yoonis Ismaaciil is better known as the Sacad Yoonis subclan. Sacad Yoonis members live mostly in the eastern part of the Somaliland, more specifically in Burco, Sanaag, Sool, and the western Nugaal regions. The link below is a visual breakdown of the Sacad Yoonis clan structure.


Sacad's sons:

Hasan Sacad (largest branch)
Maxamed Sacad (Iidarays)
Maxamuud Sacad (Reer Maxamuud)
Hasan Sacad had son called Jibriil Hasan

Jibriil's sons, Barkad Jibriil, Rooble Jibriil, Adan Jibriil,

Barkad Jibriil had four sons:

Cali Barkad
Hasan Barkad
Camaar Barkad
Jaamac Barkad
Cali Barkad had three sons

Faahiye Cali (reer Faahiye Cali)
Ahmed Cali (reer Axmed Cali)
Naaleye Cali (reer Naaleeye)
Faahiye Cali had three sons:

Bayle Faahiye
Caweer Faahiye (reer Caweer)
Xildiid Faahiye (reer Xildiid)
Bayle faahiye had son Cumaar Bayle:

Cumaar Bayle had eight sons:

Nuux Cumaar (Reer Nuux)
Maxamed Cumaar (reer Xuseen)
Cabdale Cumaar (reer Cabdale)
Cali Cumaar
Xasan Cumaar
Xuseen Cumaar
jibriil Cumaar
Guuled Cumaar
Nuux Cumaar had six sons "Reer Nuux"

Cali Nuux (reer Cali nuux)
Diiriye Nuux
Liibaan nuux
Guuled Nuux
Dibjir Nuux
Daahiir Nuux
Cali Nuux had eight sons

Abokor cali (reer Abokor)
Wade Cali (reer Wade)
Rable Cali (reer Rable)
Magan Cali (reer Magan)
Ducaale Cali (reer Ducaale Cali)
Maxamuud Cali (reer Maxamuud Cali)
Axmed Cali (reer Axmed Cali)
Ibraahim (reer Ibraahim.
Maxamed Sacad - Iidarays

Muse Samatar (largest group of the IIdarays)
Cabdi Samatar
#Ba' Arab
#Fiqi Egaal
#Jibril Egaal
#Samagaab Egaal
Reer Wacays
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There is Gahayle which are known to rob and kill Isaaqs in Erigavo :lol:

No one even breaks Isaaq into groups, they settled on the corners in the West part after the town was established. Erigavo is Maakhirs commmercial centre so RRA, Isaaqs, Dir and others can be found but it will forever be in the grips of Jibril Siciid and part of Maakhir.
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oldenglish wrote:There is Gahayle which are known to rob and kill Isaaqs in Erigavo :lol:

No one even breaks Isaaq into groups, they settled on the corners in the West part after the town was established. Erigavo is Maakhirs commmercial centre so RRA, Isaaqs, Dir and others can be found but it will forever be in the grips of Jibril Siciid and part of Maakhir.



Delusional Xoolo - who is the ruler in Erigavo - salute your ruler - Cabdalle Xamuud - Gadhweyn 8-)





:lol: :lol: :lol: the ruler of sanaag


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Maakhir gave birth to me, Ducuysane you actually believe I'll let go of the Isaaq problem? The Somaliland admin was fearful of my presence after my arrival in Erigavo, I dont know what attachment you have to Erigavo. Isaaqs are clinging on to Jibril Siciid nuts.


But I assure you after my return to Maakhir next year there wont be a single self-proclaimed Somalilander in Erigavo. Believe it or not.


Bal Aan Maakhir Haybsado.
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oldenglish wrote:Maakhir gave birth to me, Ducuysane you actually believe I'll let go of the Isaaq problem? The Somaliland admin was fearful of my presence after my arrival in Erigavo, I dont know what attachment you have to Erigavo. Isaaqs are clinging on to Jibril Siciid nuts.


But I assure you after my return to Maakhir next year there wont be a single self-proclaimed Somalilander in Erigavo. Believe it or not.


Bal Aan Maakhir Haybsado.


:lol: :lol: :lol: f-king delusional talk to me when you get the mayor rule - wasnt you the guy who said Mayd is Makhiir ? :lol: you delusional kid - you even said warsans are 1/3 population of bosaso :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



even the mayor before him was a gadhweyn man - a relative of his 8-)

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I dont care if the mayor is Isaaq/Midgan/Hawiye/English they will bow down to their master 8-)
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oldenglish wrote:I dont care if the mayor is Isaaq/Midgan/Hawiye/English they will bow down to their master 8-)

keep living in a dream fool - thinking you are 1/3 population of bosaso :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: - i have never seen a fish who is more delusional then you
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Whose arguing about Bosaaso?

The whole town is surronded by Dubeys/Reer Salaax, I wouldnt expect a kid to know the difference between MJ and Warsan.
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AbdiWahab252 wrote:Ducaysane,

Unless Issaq go into properly karbash the Harti, there will be no smellyland

You guys let the Harti go in 1991 instead of karbashing them into submission.
tell your irrir family that chance is once in a life time :lol:
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