Have Gedobuursi ever been faithful towards Somaliland?

[PointBolt]

One thing is sending off a couple of odayaal in the guurti, a mp or two , taking a ministerial post or two.
But I sincerely don't believe this clan has ever been trustfull about Somalilands aspirations .

Remember back in Afweynes days how they sided quietly with him and the faqash.
The only reason why they didn't take up arms to fight Isaaq of the land is because they didn't have the teeth to it
a jackal has to wait untill the wildebeest has taken its last breath .

I think if it weren't for their super langaab status they would have fought fiercly with Sacad Muusa for long time ago.
So I'm simply telling the truth these people are no loss at all and have been quietly working against Somaliland all the time.

Very few of their websites credits Somaliland... Amoud University barely mentions it lies in the Republic of Somaliland.
Some of them have both somalia and somaliland flag, others are referring to Somaliland as a region of Somalia.
Look at this funny article
http://harowo.com/2009/08/28/somaliland ... r-harmony/

they are claiming Siilaanyo is 'ciidyo ku dir' type of politician , a fraud and hate mongerer.

So basically Gedobuursi have alienated HJ without even knowing them properly just to protect riyoole in chief .
And now they are pushing a fight against Habar Awal over some miner contested real estate land in Ceel Bardaale.
On top of that just to give you an example Djibsomali started taking in the maryalool war against Garhajis to illustrate how evil Isaaq is ( Ha & HJ )
Like Gedobuursi din't participate in it , I wonder who were carrying the raashin and rasaas

[Suldaan_JC]

The answer to youre question, is Samaroon have never been true supporter of somaliand, their proffesors and other Aqoonyahan none of them supports this somalilad, The samaroon back home supports somaliland because they have no other choice, the day they find an escape from the hell hole, they know as somailand they are out.....and As soon as Riyaale is out from the Office, all their websites will change the somailand flag and replace it with the somaliweyn ...

Anyway from observing the latest situation in somaliland, it doesnt look good wallahi, we are Heading for war so fasten your seat belts everyone, im serious and it doesnt look good, Riyaale is trying to start some wars between the somaliland clans, and this incident in Ceelbardaale is just the Beginning.....

[PointBolt]

what we should do is to simply box in the geedobuursi, let Jibril Abokr move in behind Boorama and close the Djibouti border.
let them face only the ocean just as Xirsi Amaan once did .

suldaan you dissapoint me sometimes , have you not yet realized riyoole is just a puppet??
have you forgotten so quickly that Isaaq is extremely mixed today because of politics,

may I ask you who is gonna go at war against who??

list your potential clashes man and be more constructive.

PS I noticed you really like Sacad Muusa and thinks they are your ally forever and gonna help Silaanyo to presidency
that must be the biggest deception really.

I thought you realized that during the second extension ...

anyhow list your battles and WHY and how they gonna happend

[Blue_609]

from what i see here apparently stupidity reaches new levels by the hour there is just no limit! lets make something clear here, we the Gadabuursi clan or the vast majority of us do not support or have any tendency to the imaginary state s.land it is not a secret and u dont have to be genius to find out that (i never wondered why reer hargeysa are too bad at school, there is a reason why we're a 100 yrs ahead of u in terms of education) it only needs a lil bit of a brain, let me ask u few questions to make it easier for ur ppl to understand;

1- what clan was behind the establishment of the imaginary s.land?
2- who picked up arms and betrayed the Siad barre regime, with support from Ethiopia for the sake of a dream that will never come true ?
3- who were the ppl massacred by Siad in the late 80's?
4- which one of the northern clans was considered insignificant (laangaab) and was classified and included to another major clan -in the 4.5 formula- although they have nothing to do with it whatsoever no lineage to that clan ?

the answer is always Isaaq. so from that point of view Isaaqs had every reason to breakaway and demand ther rights since they were taken from u (i would have done that too). but what makes u think that a Gadabuursi or Ciise would ever be interested to join ur lil club! unlike u we we're part of the former regime -so was ur president that u prays every morning- and we were in front lines in each battle in uniforms, and contributed so much to the somali nation just as much as every other major clan (Darood, Hawiye, Digil m.) did. so we basically do not have any logical reason to betray the country and declare secession.

however, some Samaroons might be supporting s.land since there son rayaale is the guy who runs the lil show, but again its just a show and its got to end any day. the truth is Samaroons just dont give a damn to what u were workin on for the past 19 yrs.

Isaaq land wil never succeed simply bcoz DIR, DAROOD, HAWIYE wont allow to, remember u're only a minority about 1.1 million in a 7 million ppl nation and u're not even a major clan nor a real Dir u are a follower of Dir (laangaab)

but a traitor is always a traitor!

[Ducaysane_87]

PS I noticed you really like Sacad Muusa and thinks they are your ally forever and gonna help Silaanyo to presidency
that must be the biggest deception really.


if i was suldan i wouldnt trust sacad muse

[Suldaan_JC]

Why not? whats wrong with Sacad Muse aint they your Fellow Isaaqs?

[Khalid Ali]

sacadmuse iyo hj manay toll ahayn hadday alliance samaystaan adna waxaad ka fakiirta ciidad alliance la samaysan lahayd

[AbduQadir]

Suldan - No offence to sacad muse's there isn't nothing wrong with the clan itself but its politic's - as they are playing a danger game - double dealing on both sides - i was even amazed even the dooro's know that sacad muse are double dealing on both sides of UDUB & UCID you saw how the last guurti votes - how only few sacad muse voted against to extend riyaale term in office - while HYs more voted for against riyaale extension - heck even arap managed to vote more against the extension of riyaale even cidagale

[Khalid Ali]

Suldan - No offence to sacad muse's there isn't nothing wrong with the clan itself but its politic's - as they are playing a danger game - double dealing on both sides - i was even amazed even the dooro's know that sacad muse are double dealing on both sides of UDUB & UCID you saw how the last guurti votes - how only few sacad muse voted against to extend riyaale term in office - while HYs more voted for against riyaale extension - heck even arap managed to vote more against the extension of riyaale even cidagale

sxb there are hj in udub they are in ucid there are sacadmuse in udub but majority of the people sacadmuse support kulmiye. U saw the riots in harrgeisa last week. That’s shows you that sacadmuse support kulmiye same as gabiley wajaale allabaday arabsio etc

The house of elders yes true but these elders do not support a xisbi or a political party’s they are named by the government udub , they where not elected. They are the same guys that cigaal used to have in the upper parliament. But when it comes down to political party’s you saw how kulmiye voted for a registrated elections. Those are sacadmuses you need to deal with . not the upperparliament that don’t represent a xisbi but represent rather clans of Somaliland.

[AbduQadir]

khaliid those protests are nothing do you think they will force UDUB out of the power? a protests by kids and children - the point is even its important for kulmiye to have atleast members in the upper parliament who support them otherwise what kind of system is this?
in uk you have the Labour's and conservative's the two main parties and they have both have members in the upper parliament and representive's - the question remains is kulmiye strong enough to have a atleast 1 representive?

[Khalid Ali]

khaliid those protests are nothing do you think they will force UDUB out of the power? a protests by kids and children - the point is even its important for kulmiye to have atleast members in the upper parliament who support them otherwise what kind of system is this?
in uk you have the Labour's and conservative's the two main parties and they have both have members in the upper parliament and representive's - the question remains is kulmiye strong enough to have a atleast 1 representive?

Sxb the demonstrations shows you who the reer hargeysa support and that’s kulmiye
Riyaales ciidanka asluubta where on every 4 corners of magaalada hargeisa and protecting the madaxtoyada and guriga guurtiida. Xafada shacabka magaalada hargeisa.
No we don’t have that we have
Upper parliament house of elders Named by the government to represent all the clans, not elected wala soo magacabay..
And we have a normal parliament where the political party’s do the their work

[AbduQadir]

^^^ taas waan ogahay - i would have perfered if each party had a representive in the upper parliament but its clear UDUB dominate it - and the upper parliament members will sympathy with UDUB- to be honest i dont think UDUB will come down from power - its either Destruction of somaliland or UDUB wins thats their Method



by the way keep in mind hargiesa is a big city - there is also sections who support udub and UCID- just because some degaan or xafaad protested in hargeysa doesnt make the whole city a kulmiye supporters maybe the sacad muse & Arap areas

[Khalid Ali]

^^^ taas waan ogahay - i would have perfered if each party had a representive in the upper parliament but its clear UDUB dominate it - and the upper parliament members will sympathy with UDUB- to be honest i dont think UDUB will come down from power - its either Destruction of somaliland or UDUB wins thats their Method



by the way keep in mind hargiesa is a big city - there is also sections who support udub and UCID- just because some degaan or xafaad protested in hargeysa doesnt make the whole city a kulmiye supporters maybe the sacad muse & Arap areas

well 95% of hargeysa is mucaraad every one knows that eve ucid so mucaraad maha marka qabilka naga dhaaf

No udub will be gone and somaliland will prosper thats what they tell you udub haday tagto somaliland ba burburaysa waxasii wa sheeko caruur

[PointBolt]

from what i see here apparently stupidity reaches new levels by the hour there is just no limit! lets make something clear here, we the Gadabuursi clan or the vast majority of us do not support or have any tendency to the imaginary state s.land it is not a secret and u dont have to be genius to find out that (i never wondered why reer hargeysa are too bad at school, there is a reason why we're a 100 yrs ahead of u in terms of education) it only needs a lil bit of a brain, let me ask u few questions to make it easier for ur ppl to understand;

Isaaq people is known as the brain of Somali , there is no contest here , we are the intellectuals and had the father of modern education.
All conclusions have shown Isaaq to be far more superior to your tiny clan in terms of education , economics , network , military.
You can't sincerely compare your mere contributions as a madhibaan clan to Isaaq we were the ones who brought together the Somali Republic.
It was our leaders who went to both Ethiopia and Kenya in a civil diplomatic manner to start negotiations of returning N.F.D and Somali Galbeed.
There is no doubt Isaaqs represent the intellectual domain of Somalis you can even ask our enemies.

The only reason Gedobuursi & Samaroon boost their reputation on education is because you are building up your Miskiin image as no threath.
You have nothing but education , since we got all the millionaires and money as well

1- what clan was behind the establishment of the imaginary s.land? ( It was simple restoration to a equal republic of Somalia Somaliland Republic successor state of Somaliland State 1960
2- who picked up arms and betrayed the Siad barre regime, with support from Ethiopia for the sake of a dream that will never come true ?
Siaad Barre betrayed the Somali People by introducing the clan pokers early on , ever heard of the triplex gov? Marehan , Ogaaden , Dhulbahante.
3- who were the ppl massacred by Siad in the late 80's?
Isaaq people , the hegemonic clan and majority of North Somalia was the main target of Afweynes terror and genocidal attempt.

4- which one of the northern clans was considered insignificant (laangaab) and was classified and included to another major clan -in the 4.5 formula- although they have nothing to do with it whatsoever no lineage to that clan ?

Somalia has only three real major clans.

Digil & Mirifle is a confederation and represent a unique subculture of the Somali people itself.
The three tribes are following by size according CIA World Factbook , Hawiya 25 % , Isaak 22 % Darod 20 % .
Representing the whole Somali Peninsula, some analysts believe Darod is the biggest clan overall but due to Somali Galbeed it has been hard to determine, but later studies have shown darod inhabited districts to be less populated ref. IRIN/FAO .

You are either Samaroon or Gedobuursi which is among the insignificant tribes related to such as Siwaqroon , Madhibaan , Tumaal and other midgaan groups.
In status and reputation you comparable quite fairly to the untouchables dalits of India .

the answer is always Isaaq. so from that point of view Isaaqs had every reason to breakaway and demand ther rights since they were taken from u (i would have done that too). but what makes u think that a Gadabuursi or Ciise would ever be interested to join ur lil club! unlike u we we're part of the former regime -so was ur president that u prays every morning- and we were in front lines in each battle in uniforms, and contributed so much to the somali nation just as much as every other major clan (Darood, Hawiye, Digil m.) did. so we basically do not have any logical reason to betray the country and declare secession.

Isaaq will and can always gain the lions share of Somalias power.
It's just that we have a higher goal our own country, we don't even recognise TFG yet they can't let go of us and some of BEG our black sheeps to accept minister posts.
you should if Isaaq tomorrow went back to the union small clans like yours would be even more irrelevant, since you are of no use as alibi of Somaliland.

however, some Samaroons might be supporting s.land since there son rayaale is the guy who runs the lil show, but again its just a show and its got to end any day. the truth is Samaroons just dont give a damn to what u were workin on for the past 19 yrs.

Isaaq land wil never succeed simply bcoz DIR, DAROOD, HAWIYE wont allow to, remember u're only a minority about 1.1 million in a 7 million ppl nation and u're not even a major clan nor a real Dir u are a follower of Dir (laangaab)

Both Ciise and the smaller ones Samaroon & Gedobuursi are of irrelevant status compared to Isaaq.
yours clan are so small you need to refer to our sub sub clans if you want communication.
Next time please refer to your nearest Isaaq sub clan in your case Jibril Abokr of Sacad Muusa.[/size]

but a traitor is always a traitor!

I can see your indho xafajo eyes glaring so carefully in the dark holes of boorama mountains, so yellow and red.
keep hiding but sooner or later we're gonna exterminate your extreme langaab ass

[Elmi_Dheere]

Idoor iyo Afxumo ma kala hadhaan


somaliland is infact a product of Samaroon , the flag , the anthem constitution
everything was made in Borama.

and Every clan has its role. Samaroon Siciid are the educated elite and supreme rulers. Isak are the footsoldiers ('kaadidan uuso cabnay)' .

What I want to know is why every Idoor kid has cuqdad for reer Awdal. Waa bil barakeysaan
ilaahaay haa idin caafiyo ilma bucur buceyr.