Why Do Sudanese Think They Are Arab?

[dawwa9]

Nubian (80%) + Arabian (20%)

Whilst Somalis / Moroccans and other fake Arabs are only somewhere between 0% and 5% Arabian.

[edleh]

They think they are Arabs because of their language. You know their first Luuqah is Arabic. Somalidaa labada looga baahan yahay in ay ku adkaystaan cidda ay yihiin isla markaasina iska dhaafaan sheegashada ay sheegtaan Carab. Dad badan oo Soomaali ahi waxaabay noqdeen Sheegato!

[paidmonk]

Arabta Sudan are of Nubian stock, they already had a high status in society before Islam or Arabs arrived. Their conversion to Arabism is the same as Egypt, it all had to do with political gain. Don't confuse Sudanese for being victims, they ruled Egypt for a long period and are considered among the most noble in the Arab world. Two of Egypt's four contemporary presidents were of Sudanese origin (Naguib & Sedat).

[FAH1223]

Arabta Sudan are of Nubian stock, they already had a high status in society before Islam or Arabs arrived. Their conversion to Arabism is the same as Egypt, it all had to do with political gain. Don't confuse Sudanese for being victims, they ruled Egypt for a long period and are considered among the most noble in the Arab world. Two of Egypt's four contemporary presidents were of Sudanese origin (Naguib & Sedat).

A. They Have Arab Ancestory (& African).
B. They Speak Arabic.
C. They Share the same Culture.
D. They share a religion.
E. They share boundaries and are Next to each other.

Best Answers.

[LobsterUnit]

There is no such thing as "looking Arab" because Arabs can be brown,black, red or white. However, there are original Arabs and Arabised Arabs,but this has nothing to with skin tone as some white skinned persians and assyrians have also been arabised. North Sudanese are Arabs by culture, lineage and language, just like some black skinned maurtianians, yemenis, morrocans, omanis and so and so forth.

[Hyperactive]

Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the longtime Saudi ambassador to the U.S

lol he's mother was an slave from zinjibar and his father admited him his fatherhood later in life.
in his childhood he grow up with slave kids untill his father gave him the family name. most of royal families in the gulf used to have slave women and had kids with them as slave not as wivies. kuwait qatar and saudi arabia are good example of that. one look like kenyatti is a qatari prince or kuwaiti prince. wa iska aadi arabtu used to have kids with their slaves.

and that's exactly what happened to north sudan. Arabs mariied and had babies with the native sudanesse. so their fathers were pure arab who come to land of black ( arth suod/sudan).

being arab not only look as arabs share a language and culture not the origin.

[paidmonk]

^ You are wrong about Sudan, hyper. The Arabs in North Sudan are just native Nubians who speak Arabic. They never mixed with peninsular Arabs.

Look at the photos below; both photos are of pure Nubians from southern Egypt, except they are not Arabized. They look identical to their Arab-speaking brothers in Khartoum. There is 0% Arab blood in Sudan. The light-skinned ones are possibly mixed with Egyptian but not gulf Arabs in the 7th century.

[Hyperactive]

lol brelirvr me they mixed with.
most of them they can trace their foefathers in peninsular Arabs.

never seen north sudanesse saying im pure african other than some noba.

even basheer says he is arab tribe from saudi, if you call them liars it's other case but that what they calim. my uncle married halabia from north and she says she is an arab.

[paidmonk]

Isaaq and Darood can trace their ancestry to Arabia but that's not true and we both know it.

Anyway, Sudanese will deny his Africanness like Somalis will. Its all the same, can you believe any of them? There are Nigerian tribes and Malaysian tribes that trace themselves to Nabi Muhammad (pbuh). So do you believe them too?

Even the Egyptians do not trace their ancestry to Arabia except one tribe that is truly Arab, the al-Rashid. If Egyptians know they are 100% pure then Sudanese are no different.

Also, if the Nubians in Egypt look identical to the Arab Sudanese in Khartoum, and they share history, then what does that tell you?

[Hyperactive]

lol yu're funny.

i still have to meet sudannese denying other than south.
i have my childhood frimed who is alhatimi from north, he hates arabs like no one in this world for darfur issues and his father was kiched from sudan for political reason, but he always says: i wish if i can arise my family nale: alkhatimi, which is famous arab tribe from aljazeera to some randon name.

they cannot deny their arabness since unlike somalis they have arab tribe name as their family name. like bani amir, alhatimi, alrasheedi, al mari, al3aseemi etc. again arabness nothing to do what you look like and how you look like.

[Cinque Mtume]

hyper,

Bandar bin Sultan got rejected by his father, because he was his slave child in the beginning, but the royal family and that time his wise and religious older brother Faisal was head of the family and he ordered his younger brother Sultan to acknowledge his son according to Islamic tradition.

That's when the royal family admitted him and his mother to live in the royal court instead of as slaves outside. He got the chance to grow up with his brothers/sisters and cousins, get the best education out there and marry the daughter of one of his uncles.

At the end, he became the most loved member of the family, because he was always joking around and extremely smart as well. Which is why late King Fahd made him the family's representative to the white house.

[Hyperactive]

hyper,

Bandar bin Sultan got rejected by his father, because he was his slave child in the beginning, but the royal family and that time his wise and religious older brother Faisal was head of the family and he ordered his younger brother Sultan to acknowledge his son according to Islamic tradition.

That's when the royal family admitted him and his mother to live in the royal court instead of as slaves outside. He got the chance to grow up with his brothers/sisters and cousins, get the best education out there and marry the daughter of one of his uncles.

At the end, he became the most loved member of the family, because he was always joking around and extremely smart as well. Which is why late King Fahd made him the family's representative to the white house.

lol exactly that what i said bro.

same we have in Qatar.
slave kids go regular school with us even though they cary the family name.
we used to laugh when they say my father is the amiir.
it's just sad that to know your mather never was married to your father.
i dont know how they feel really/

imagine 2009 and you say: my mother wasan slave!!

i have my mother's uncle who his mother was slave and he looks like bantu. it hurts

[Cinque Mtume]

WOW, stop the tape!


You go to school with slave kids? I thought slavery had ended?

[Hyperactive]

WOW, stop the tape!


You go to school with slave kids? I thought slavery had ended?

it ended officially in qatar 1977.
that is selling and buying , and many were freed but some people kept theirs until today,

they call themselves: abeed alsheikh.
and they have higher possition than regualr mowatin though.

they give them choices to be free or still carry the tittle: abeed alsheikh and get some benifits like registering their kids as abbed the sheikh and get mothly money.

[Cinque Mtume]

And these registered Abeeds, I can assume they are not Muslim right.