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Stoning to Death

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Punishment of death by stoning does not make sense when we look at other Ayaat of the Quraan which also talk about punishments for adultery acts

n 4:16 Allah is talking in a general sense that whoever commits a Fahish act, we must punish them, and if after that they repent and amend, we must leave them alone.

so this ayah rules out ANY DEATH PUNISHMENT for a crime of FAHASHI because the ayah tells us that if after punishment the criminals REPENT and AMEND, we should leave them alone. If the person is dead, he/she cannot repent or amend, and it won’t make any sense for us to leave them alone after they repent. does this make any sense
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Re: Stoning to Death

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i was always against stoning people to death :down:
wa wax laga naxo argagax.
Muhamad the prophet saw in his time as prophet he only stoned one woman, and that woman she came to the prophet and said , waan sineystay.
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i don't get it either.......what the hell is the point of stoning someone thats sick!!!!!!......only savages do that shit...
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Re: Stoning to Death

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let us be honest, what is the punishment of adultery in the Book of Allah?
The answer is 100 flogs that is if the strict requirements regulating the punishment have been met…which is almost impossible
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i heard that if a person repents and changes before the authorities catch him then he or she should be left alone, however if they catch him while he is still in fitnah did not repent nor changed his way then death is for adultery. allah knows best
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Nomand wrote:i heard that if a person repents and changes before the authorities catch him then he or she should be left alone, however if they catch him while he is still in fitnah did not repent nor changed his way then death is for adultery. allah knows best
"O women of the prophet! Whoever, of you commits an open Fahish act, the punishment shall be increased to her doubly; and this is easy to Allah.”(Quraan 33:30)

If the punishment for some indecent act had been stoning to death, then what would it mean to double the punishment?
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Goljano Lion wrote:
Nomand wrote:i heard that if a person repents and changes before the authorities catch him then he or she should be left alone, however if they catch him while he is still in fitnah did not repent nor changed his way then death is for adultery. allah knows best
"O women of the prophet! Whoever, of you commits an open Fahish act, the punishment shall be increased to her doubly; and this is easy to Allah.”(Quraan 33:30)

If the punishment for some indecent act had been stoning to death, then what would it mean to double the punishment?

i dont know but what i understood from the ayah is the double punishment might mean in the hereafter and not in this world, however allah also can punish a person twice in the world.

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that ayah was talking about aisha when the munafiqeen were spreading rumours that she commit zina, allah later confirmed her innocence on a later ayah
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Goljano Lion wrote:so this ayah rules out ANY DEATH PUNISHMENT for a crime of FAHASHI because the ayah tells us that if after punishment the criminals REPENT and AMEND, we should leave them alone. If the person is dead, he/she cannot repent or amend, and it won’t make any sense for us to leave them alone after they repent. does this make any sense
Please don't speak without knowledge. Seek the proper answer from a Sheikh. Do not fall into error unknowingly. If you don't know something or don't understand it, it's best to seek your answers from a knowledgeable person.
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Firefly wrote:
Goljano Lion wrote:so this ayah rules out ANY DEATH PUNISHMENT for a crime of FAHASHI because the ayah tells us that if after punishment the criminals REPENT and AMEND, we should leave them alone. If the person is dead, he/she cannot repent or amend, and it won’t make any sense for us to leave them alone after they repent. does this make any sense
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Goljano, Thats your answer..besides dont ask such questions right now..because it will only apply in a muslim country where the Laws of Allah SWT are applied..not in todays secular pseudo-islamic countries.
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Re: Stoning to Death

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Cawar wrote:
Firefly wrote:
Goljano Lion wrote:so this ayah rules out ANY DEATH PUNISHMENT for a crime of FAHASHI because the ayah tells us that if after punishment the criminals REPENT and AMEND, we should leave them alone. If the person is dead, he/she cannot repent or amend, and it won’t make any sense for us to leave them alone after they repent. does this make any sense
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Goljano, Thats your answer..besides dont ask such questions right now..because it will only apply in a muslim country where the Laws of Allah SWT are applied..not in todays secular pseudo-islamic countries.
So the above ayaat 33:30, 4:25 and 4:16 rule out the possibility of a death punishment for a Fahish act
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Re: Stoning to Death

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To the Post initiator:

Seek knowledge brother, And Somalinet is certainly not the place for your Shari'ah questions.
Briefly, one who commits Zina will be stoned to death if he/she is married or 100 floggings if he/she is unmarried. And it is not a simply a matter of stoning or flogging either, but substantial evidence will be required for the punishments to be carried out.
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Re: Stoning to Death

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The Quran doesnt mention stoning to death. The Quran is the book of laws, Allah swt's words, and the hadith are for clarification and implementation of said laws.
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Re: Stoning to Death

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y is dat in dis forum da ppl dat discuss religion all da tyme r da lowest of da low? Dey ave no knoweledge of da diin yet dey come ere fartin emotions. :roll: Where r da true youth wadads of our tyme? :|
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Re: Stoning to Death

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As barbaric as it may seem,I still strongly believe in stoning any devient group.

The following people should be stoned in my views and are justified if done.
1.Those who left the deen.
2.Married man or woman committing adultery.
3.Homosexual Degenerates.
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