So people, when should we do it? (Serious discussion)
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Re: So people, when should we do it? (Serious discussion)
I guess nomad found out he was really tigre
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Re: So people, when should we do it? (Serious discussion)
"Speechless"....
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Re: So people, when should we do it? (Serious discussion)
Cumar-Labasuul wrote:I guess nomad found out he was really tigre
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Re: So people, when should we do it? (Serious discussion)
Well no-one knows, that's the funny part.Ganjaweed wrote:Lol at illyrians having E1b1b1a. So we may be related distantly to spartacus, sorry no he was a thracian. That doesnt make any sense, how did the e1b1b1a get to greece and illyria and if so, why do their languages fall under the indo-european family and not the Hamito-Semitic family?James Dahl wrote:There are a lot of discussion groups for E1b1b1a. The Balkan branch got spread all around Europe due to the spread of the Roman Empire, as Illyrians often served in the army.
The homeland though is the Horn and the Nile.
If I had to guess, I suppose I would guess that they ended up being culturally assimilated by their neighbors, they may have even conquered them but ended up adopting their culture, or were conquered and lost their culture. Or it may have just faded away over time due to close ties with their neighbors. There are many ways for cultures to change.
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Re: So people, when should we do it? (Serious discussion)
Then what exactly is this gene? I mean, we know that J1 is associated with semites, and R1 is european etc.James Dahl wrote:Well no-one knows, that's the funny part.Ganjaweed wrote:Lol at illyrians having E1b1b1a. So we may be related distantly to spartacus, sorry no he was a thracian. That doesnt make any sense, how did the e1b1b1a get to greece and illyria and if so, why do their languages fall under the indo-european family and not the Hamito-Semitic family?James Dahl wrote:There are a lot of discussion groups for E1b1b1a. The Balkan branch got spread all around Europe due to the spread of the Roman Empire, as Illyrians often served in the army.
The homeland though is the Horn and the Nile.
If I had to guess, I suppose I would guess that they ended up being culturally assimilated by their neighbors, they may have even conquered them but ended up adopting their culture, or were conquered and lost their culture. Or it may have just faded away over time due to close ties with their neighbors. There are many ways for cultures to change.
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Re: So people, when should we do it? (Serious discussion)
Why is this nigga trying to pretend he's capable of discussing genetics?Ganjaweed wrote: Then what exactly is this gene? I mean, we know that J1 is associated with semites, and R1 is european etc.
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Re: So people, when should we do it? (Serious discussion)
I know finding out you aren't arab is traumatising for you, so I'll let that slide. However, I would appreciate you don't address me as "nigga", you tigrey.The Nomad wrote:Why is this nigga trying to pretend he's capable of discussing genetics?Ganjaweed wrote: Then what exactly is this gene? I mean, we know that J1 is associated with semites, and R1 is european etc.
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Re: So people, when should we do it? (Serious discussion)
Genetics has nothing to do with culture. You are not born knowing how to speak or dress or what food to eat, all those things are taught to you by your peer group, family, and your culture. If you take a kid from let's say some ancestrally Scandinavian parents at birth and raise them as a Somali in Somalia, they will grow up to be Somali in every way other than looks. They will speak Somali, dress Somali, eat Somali foods, etc etc. It's no different here, some family from Canaan ends up in Illyria and adopts local customs will be culturally Illyrian in a few generations, and after a few centuries of inter-marriage with the locals will look Illyrian as well. The only clue they were ever from Canaan is their Y-chromosome.Ganjaweed wrote: Then what exactly is this gene? I mean, we know that J1 is associated with semites, and R1 is european etc.
The haplogroups actually pre-date history by several millenia so they aren't actually associated as strongly with specific cultures as you think. Certain cultures had more to do with SPREADING a certain haplogroup, but the haplogroup itself long pre-dates them.
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Re: So people, when should we do it? (Serious discussion)
James Dahl wrote:Genetics has nothing to do with culture. You are not born knowing how to speak or dress or what food to eat, all those things are taught to you by your peer group, family, and your culture. If you take a kid from let's say some ancestrally Scandinavian parents at birth and raise them as a Somali in Somalia, they will grow up to be Somali in every way other than looks. They will speak Somali, dress Somali, eat Somali foods, etc etc. It's no different here, some family from Canaan ends up in Illyria and adopts local customs will be culturally Illyrian in a few generations, and after a few centuries of inter-marriage with the locals will look Illyrian as well. The only clue they were ever from Canaan is their Y-chromosome.The haplogroups actually pre-date history by several millenia so they aren't actually associated as strongly with specific cultures as you think. Certain cultures had more to do with SPREADING a certain haplogroup, but the haplogroup itself long pre-dates them.Ganjaweed wrote: Then what exactly is this gene? I mean, we know that J1 is associated with semites, and R1 is european etc.
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Re: So people, when should we do it? (Serious discussion)
Ha, what an idiot. If you understood it you wouldn't ask even more stupid questions. Get your GED, my nig, shit is basic, walahi.Ganjaweed wrote:I already understand all that, it's just that J1 is more predominant in semites, usually arabs and jews. The R 1 haplogroup is one of the more consistently occuring haplogroups within europeans, therefore it wouldn't be rediculous to associate those gens with those ethnic groups. I was wondering what ethnic groups have the most E1b1b1a haplogroup prevalent.
What you're asking for seems to be which ethnic groups have the highest concentrations of E1b1b1a, which f-king Wikipedia could explain, but I'll let my nigga James deign to educate you
Only 13% of Jews have J1, by the by, you fool.
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Re: So people, when should we do it? (Serious discussion)
Ganjaweed yaaney ku baran bahasha futada jilicsani .Hana u jawaabin ha na la hadlin fadlan !Daarodku wuxu qayrki (meaning us) waa waxanoo miidhan .Haddaan iminka anigu labo kalmadood ka sheego daroodka nin iyo naag waxa meesha jooga baa ii wada cadhoonaya .Qashin ka noocan oo miidhan se e sharfatii ka qaaday na , way u qoslayaan.Horey na waa loo sheegay qowm ka sidaa ku dambeeya weligi khayr ma soo gaadho .
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Re: So people, when should we do it? (Serious discussion)
E1b1b1a1b has the highest percentages in absolute terms amongst the Borana Oromo of Kenya, the Beja, Masalit, and Fur of Sudan, and Somalis. Oromo in general in Ethiopia have a relatively low percentage of about 30% or so in the studies that have been undertaken, but Ethiopian Oromo are the first to admit to assimilating other groups into their own.Ganjaweed wrote:James Dahl wrote:Genetics has nothing to do with culture. You are not born knowing how to speak or dress or what food to eat, all those things are taught to you by your peer group, family, and your culture. If you take a kid from let's say some ancestrally Scandinavian parents at birth and raise them as a Somali in Somalia, they will grow up to be Somali in every way other than looks. They will speak Somali, dress Somali, eat Somali foods, etc etc. It's no different here, some family from Canaan ends up in Illyria and adopts local customs will be culturally Illyrian in a few generations, and after a few centuries of inter-marriage with the locals will look Illyrian as well. The only clue they were ever from Canaan is their Y-chromosome.The haplogroups actually pre-date history by several millenia so they aren't actually associated as strongly with specific cultures as you think. Certain cultures had more to do with SPREADING a certain haplogroup, but the haplogroup itself long pre-dates them.Ganjaweed wrote: Then what exactly is this gene? I mean, we know that J1 is associated with semites, and R1 is european etc.I already understand all that, it's just that J1 is more predominant in semites, usually arabs and jews. The R 1 haplogroup is one of the more consistently occuring haplogroups within europeans, therefore it wouldn't be ridiculous to associate those genes with those ethnic groups. I was wondering what ethnic groups have the most E1b1b1a haplogroup prevalent.
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Re: So people, when should we do it? (Serious discussion)
Nigga fuck outta my thread, nigga. Real nigga spitSahanGalbeed wrote:Ganjaweed yaaney ku baran bahasha futada jilicsani .Hana u jawaabin ha na la hadlin fadlan !
Stop cockblocking just because Ganjaweed likes me more than you, jealous ass nigga
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Re: So people, when should we do it? (Serious discussion)
I would actually address you if I had any respect for you. The only idiot here is you, who is soo delusional that he actually thinks he is arab. Where is that paper you said you would post. Clearly you were so shocked by the results that you decided to burn it, you self-hating miserable bufoon.The Nomad wrote:Ha, what an idiot. If you understood it you wouldn't ask even more stupid questions. Get your GED, my nig, shit is basic, walahi.Ganjaweed wrote:I already understand all that, it's just that J1 is more predominant in semites, usually arabs and jews. The R 1 haplogroup is one of the more consistently occuring haplogroups within europeans, therefore it wouldn't be rediculous to associate those gens with those ethnic groups. I was wondering what ethnic groups have the most E1b1b1a haplogroup prevalent.
What you're asking for seems to be which ethnic groups have the highest concentrations of E1b1b1a, which f-king Wikipedia could explain, but I'll let my nigga James deign to educate you
Only 13% of Jews have J1, by the by, you fool.
So what if 13% of jews have it. That doesnt stop it from being associated with south-west asia, and the arabian peninsula. And since it is most common in those areas where "semitic" people live, it isnt a bit of a stretch to associate it with them. But hey what do I know, I mean you're the arab with a degree in Human genetics.
PS Iwasn't talking to you but to James Dahl. So next time dont bother talking to me, because I'm not replying until you find your long lost self-respect
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