Udun

[1nemansquad]

Are you pro-puntland?

And you don't support SSC unity of its own?

[udun]

I support reer tolka getting their acts together, doing the soul searching, kicking the Dabacyuun and their co-horts out of our territories and really conducting a well-thought plan that is a rationale and not emotional based.

With respect to Puntland, yes I am Putlander and have not seen any decision made by tolka where we reversed our participation in that regional administration. I remember how many Majeerteens, Warsangeli, Dishiishe, Kaskiiqabe, Lailkase, and Awrtable gave their lives to the defense of Sool while some our cousins (Dhuloos guys) were the ones who brought SL to our territories. It was some of us who brought that hated entity in Guumeys, then Yagoori, then Tuulo Samakaab, then Adhi Cadeeye, then Abeesaley, then Xargaga, then Laascaanood, then Kala Baydh, and so forth. In Columbus, Ohio where I live I know this Omar Mohamed Reer Mahad, and Cabdi Ciise guys who lost their love ones in Adhicadeeye and Laascaanood battles. Actually, one of these guys lost his nephew and his brother. I believe they and many others have died for a cause.

I reject all of the blame we are throwing on PL while we are still divided and not really committed to unity. Let there be no illusions, it is us who are still divided and I know many things which I don't want to write this open forum.

I reject all of these politicians who would go to SL or come up a new imaginary entity they call SSC when they could not get the seat they wanted in PL. Some of the reerka used a phrase where they stated "Ama iiga kac ama Iidoor baan keeni" or "Intii [reerkaasi] i xukumi lahaa, Iidoor ha i xukumo". That tragic mentality is still present among us and the sooner we address it genuinely, the better it will be for all of us. This whole business of Faarax and Mohamud is what is destroying us and I think we need to acknowledge it and deal with it.

I also reject some of the politicians who sit around in certains seats in PL and do nothing or other politicians in overseas countries who issue speeches and do nothing else.

Let me conclude that we need a realistic approach where we resolve our internal differences and move on. I believe it is our interest to be part of PL and accept our responsibilities and mistakes. That does not mean we have to follow every decisions that the leaders of PL make. We should be part of it and look after our own interest and security the same way warsangeli, Lailakse, or MJ-Reer Mudug are doing it today. Our problem is we are leaving every thing to the leadership as if they are capable of handling it.

At the end of the day, I am a Muslim, Somali, Daarood, Harti, and Dhulbahante. In the abtirsiimo my parents taught me, MX (Sade), Lailkase (Tanade), Awrtable (Yusuf), and Ciise are fellow Daaroods. Then you have Kablalax (Maxamed) where it is divided into Koobme and Kumade. Then you have Harti who has 7 sons: Maxamed, Mohamud, Siciid, C/Raxmaan, Axmed, Liibaan, and Geesa Guule. I see PL presenting all of that ideal people + Carab sallax (Meheri Ismaaciil) and many other communities. So, yes absolutely yes I am a Putlander, a die-hard one.

[1nemansquad]

Very romantic bullshit you just wrote but point well taken.
My point of view, facts and on the ground accounts are extremely different to yours and the things you claim therefore lets agree to disagree; bless you

I'm a die hard, will kill for Darwiishlander.

[siren]

What happened to being Somali from Somalia?

[1nemansquad]

What happened to being Somali from Somalia?

lol, Somalia eey baa cuney; i only care about Dhulos interest

[siren]

What happened to being Somali from Somalia?

lol, Somalia eey baa cuney; i only care about Dhulos interest

Do you honestly believe that xajle toosye iyo cali sabaree have our inerest? I am curiou

[1nemansquad]

if we keep doubting everyone and then who? neither of them seem to have any affiliation to Somaliland or Putland therefore that is good enough for me, the distrust amongst Dhulos is astonishing

[Babygirl-]

if we keep doubting everyone and then who? neither of them seem to have any affiliation to Somaliland or Putland therefore that is good enough for me, the distrust amongst Dhulos is astonishing

[Galmeygaag]

Puntland is trying to buy the SSC's trust by offering treatment in Gaalkacyo Hospital, its funny because not long ago they tried to make the Kenyan government arrest the SSC leaders and also denied them to land in Gaalkacyo airport.

previously i always thought it would be in the interest of SSC to work with Puntland but now with this SSC-Ethio clash, i do not thing this option is open anymore, because as we all know Puntland is the main proxy Ethiopia has in Somalia. Buuhoodle, Hawd, Golgodob, Caabudwaaq and the area between has cought the interest of Ethiopia, and in regard to this land i would imagine Puntland siding with Ethiopia as they did when it came to the Ogaden region. with so many secret service Xabashi in Puntland, it would not surprise me if just like Ogaden, Dhullos were picked out and sent to Ethiopia for toture.


warlord controling tribes is yesterday Somalia, Dhullos need to scram this mentality and involve the Shacab mainly business men and educated elders to form a more coherent administration.

Hartinimo is dead, if it was not obvious when Puntland pioritised Kismaayo over the safety of their neighbouring brothers, atleast it will be clear today.

btw AUN to the dead, defending your home and families from the HIV Gaalo agressors must surely be justified.

[siren]

^ There is a difference between the shacab and the administration who are looking out for their own interest. Hartinimo is not dead and it is running through our vains, it is not something you can pick and choose. Wax aad isku dirtoo raadso.

if we keep doubting everyone and then who? neither of them seem to have any affiliation to Somaliland or Putland therefore that is good enough for me, the distrust amongst Dhulos is astonishing

I was trying to keep an open mind about that and was hoping that they have the interest of Dhulbahante as whole but from what I am hearing I don't think that is their agenda.

[malakumod]

I support reer tolka getting their acts together, doing the soul searching, kicking the Dabacyuun and their co-horts out of our territories and really conducting a well-thought plan that is a rationale and not emotional based.

With respect to Puntland, yes I am Putlander and have not seen any decision made by tolka where we reversed our participation in that regional administration. I remember how many Majeerteens, Warsangeli, Dishiishe, Kaskiiqabe, Lailkase, and Awrtable gave their lives to the defense of Sool while some our cousins (Dhuloos guys) were the ones who brought SL to our territories. It was some of us who brought that hated entity in Guumeys, then Yagoori, then Tuulo Samakaab, then Adhi Cadeeye, then Abeesaley, then Xargaga, then Laascaanood, then Kala Baydh, and so forth. In Columbus, Ohio where I live I know this Omar Mohamed Reer Mahad, and Cabdi Ciise guys who lost their love ones in Adhicadeeye and Laascaanood battles. Actually, one of these guys lost his nephew and his brother. I believe they and many others have died for a cause.

I reject all of the blame we are throwing on PL while we are still divided and not really committed to unity. Let there be no illusions, it is us who are still divided and I know many things which I don't want to write this open forum.

I reject all of these politicians who would go to SL or come up a new imaginary entity they call SSC when they could not get the seat they wanted in PL. Some of the reerka used a phrase where they stated "Ama iiga kac ama Iidoor baan keeni" or "Intii [reerkaasi] i xukumi lahaa, Iidoor ha i xukumo". That tragic mentality is still present among us and the sooner we address it genuinely, the better it will be for all of us. This whole business of Faarax and Mohamud is what is destroying us and I think we need to acknowledge it and deal with it.

I also reject some of the politicians who sit around in certains seats in PL and do nothing or other politicians in overseas countries who issue speeches and do nothing else.

Let me conclude that we need a realistic approach where we resolve our internal differences and move on. I believe it is our interest to be part of PL and accept our responsibilities and mistakes. That does not mean we have to follow every decisions that the leaders of PL make. We should be part of it and look after our own interest and security the same way warsangeli, Lailakse, or MJ-Reer Mudug are doing it today. Our problem is we are leaving every thing to the leadership as if they are capable of handling it.

At the end of the day, I am a Muslim, Somali, Daarood, Harti, and Dhulbahante. In the abtirsiimo my parents taught me, MX (Sade), Lailkase (Tanade), Awrtable (Yusuf), and Ciise are fellow Daaroods. Then you have Kablalax (Maxamed) where it is divided into Koobme and Kumade. Then you have Harti who has 7 sons: Maxamed, Mohamud, Siciid, C/Raxmaan, Axmed, Liibaan, and Geesa Guule. I see PL presenting all of that ideal people + Carab sallax (Meheri Ismaaciil) and many other communities. So, yes absolutely yes I am a Putlander, a die-hard one.

your joke and a shameless one that. how embarrassing.

[malakumod]

^ There is a difference between the shacab and the administration who are looking out for their own interest. Hartinimo is not dead and it is running through our vains, it is not something you can pick and choose. Wax aad isku dirtoo raadso.

if we keep doubting everyone and then who? neither of them seem to have any affiliation to Somaliland or Putland therefore that is good enough for me, the distrust amongst Dhulos is astonishing

I was trying to keep an open mind about that and was hoping that they have the interest of Dhulbahante as whole but from what I am hearing I don't think that is their agenda.

hartinimo is not only dead, it was never alive to beging with. fuch hartinimo. we are dhulbahante, we never need harti and we dont need it know. dadyahow diciifnimada iyo han la'aanta, iyo kalsooni la'aanta iska daaya.

[1nemansquad]

Siran, there is a difference between blood relations and political ties or interests of your people. Hartinimo is well and alive as long as it doesn't intervene in what is good for my family and its well-being. Putland administration does not serve the interest of our people, it serves the interests others. A lot of people use the term Harti for the wrong reasons or political gain. I'm an strong believer that politics and blood relations should not be mixed.

I refused to sit beside someone that wants to see me starve while they get ahead only because we are Harti together, I got to get mine.

As for Sabareey and Xalje, until i see them moving away from what they set out to do; which was unite Dhulbahante, they have my full support.

[malakumod]

Siran, there is a difference between blood relations and political ties or interests of your people. Hartinimo is well and alive as long as it doesn't intervene in what is good for my family and its well-being. Putland administration does not serve the interest of our people, it serves the interests others. A lot of people use the term Harti for the wrong reasons or political gain. I'm an strong believer that politics and blood relations should not be mixed.

I refused to sit beside someone that wants to see me starve while they get ahead only because we are Harti together, I got to get mine.

As for Sabareey and Xalje, until i see them moving away from what they set out to do; which was unite Dhulbahante, they have my full support.

ps. loooooooool first i ever agreed with 1 man

[Babygirl-]

All Harti are not bad their is a difference between the Administration and the people.

The Puntland adminstration which includes Dhulos dabo dhilif's we have been waiting for them to do something in Lasanod for the past 2 and half years not any action was taken except sayin dhulos are divided!! so when Cabdulahi yusuf was fighting Adde muse & Jamac ali Jamac were they not dived? didn't the majority of puntlanders attack them since they were seen as a threat to puntland?

And what are they saying now? Ethiopia saaxiiba baanu nahaay!! taacsi baanu u direeyna!! waa in Reer-buuhoodle is dhiban!!

Wiixi Dhiiglahoow Daadkaaga Dhinaac kaa raac, Dhulkaaga Cadoowga Xabashi iyo Dabo Dhiliifka Kaa Difaaco, Daadkiina Taagera Damiirlaawiida iska Daaya, Waan in aaan meel uga soo wada jesanoo cadoowga is baheeystaay..

Joojiya what are their interest? there interst is to bring your Honor back & Defend your people and Land! what more do you people need? they are dying for Dhulbahantenimo Garaab istaaga & Never Support dabo Dhilif Dhiiglaawe aah oo DHulkale iska fadhiya sida Naag Laagu qaabo.