why salafi/wahabis believe there are missing verses in quran

[DisplacedDiraac]

Dr yax, there is things you debate and joke about and there is things you dont. Please refrain from such ridiculous lies. .

Second that!!

[Executive]

Mods delete this topic, its a disgrace

[djibsomali]

Somali slaves are scared about the truth!!!

i remember gaalos in the 16th century burning all book claiming that the world is round!!

somali slaves always dominated by arabs masters are trying to silence if someone shake their idolatry beliefs.

[Advo]

I never thought people worse than gaalo would come out of somalinet, these guys have been at war with the Quran/Hadith lately under the guise of we hate WAHABISM.

[grandpakhalif]

DR. YALAXOW you are confusing Sunni islam with the jecfari SHIICAS who believe in a fake surat call surat al waliyaa that justifies the 12 imaams( may allah protect us from shirk)

http://www.al-inaam.com/fataawa/shia_ka ... age001.jpg

This is a fake surat made by shiicas I think you are confused.

[AbuDujanah]

There is a difference between Missing and abrogated sxb. Some verses are abrogated

[*Nobleman*]

Mods delete this topic, its a disgrace

Akhi walahi my initial thought was to delete this absurd topic, but I left it to display and expose this guys stupidity.

I never thought people worse than gaalo would come out of somalinet, these guys have been at war with the Quran/Hadith lately under the guise of we hate WAHABISM.

Spot on bro . I dont post or visit that much latley because i have been real busy, but everytime I came here i read some nonsense from either dr yax, djibsomali, ruralman etc attacking the haq under the guise of hating wahabism, even though no such thing exists called wahabism. These deviant guys want to misguide people by using terms coined by the media. One sheikh was giving a talk and was saying that these ahlul bidca are more dangerous to the truth than the kafirs. They hide amongst us and try and change and attack the haq from within. May Allah swt protect us from these people.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Somali slaves are scared about the truth!!!

i remember gaalos in the 16th century burning all book claiming that the world is round!!

somali slaves always dominated by arabs masters are trying to silence if someone shake their idolatry beliefs.

What?
There is also stoning in Iran.

[Enlightened~Sista]

^^

usheeg!

[yunis09]

We are living in a dangerous time, subxaanallah
I remember hearing an American commentator saying we need to change islam from within instead of with guns and terror in 2003. I guess they are putting their game plane into play now.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

actually shias too believe there are missing verses in quran but whats is amazing is SUNNAH specally salafi/wahafi acusse other sects of islam that they say quran is incomplete while same SALAFI say there were RAJM verse which was not made it in the quran. not only RAJM BUT lot of other verses and their daliiil is HADIITH SAHIIH BUKHAARI AND SAHIIIH MUSLIM which lot of hadiith clearly say there are lost verses in quran?

There is a difference between Missing and abrogated sxb. Some verses are abrogated

yes i agree whit you there is difference between missing and abrogated?

abrogated means verses in quran(6666 verses) whichs already in tha quran, only those 6666 verses in the quran can be abrogated and not VERSE whichs not part of(6666 verses) like so called (rajm) verse whichs not in the quran,whichs not in the 6666 verses in quran, therefore you can not claime its abrogated becouse alleged rajm verse is not in the quran.

if you claime then there is rajm ayah whichs not quran we know today, thats means MISSING, AND if you say quran and claime there are missing verses, then your are agains what allah said whichs quran is

"This day have I perfected your religion for you and completed My favour unto you, and have chosen for you as your religion Islam." (Quran, Surah [5:3])

people who claime there was RAJM verse their evedence is HADIITH which says CUMAR BIN KHADAAB(RC) SAID i was there when(rajm)verse was revaled bye allah to rasuul maxamed scw and i read it and i saw it but it did not made it quran.

so what it does mean, IT MEANS reaveled verse is missing, and it does not mean abrogated. all ABROGATED VERSES ARE STILL IN QURAN. THERE IS NO ABROGATED VERSE WHICHS OUTSIDE OF QURAN =114 SURAH and verses 6666

allah revealed to rasuul 6666 and not 6666+1, IF YOU CLAIME THAT THERE IS MORE VERSES LIKE THAT HADIITH then your claiming that there is missing verses.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

DR. YALAXOW you are confusing Sunni islam with the jecfari SHIICAS who believe in a fake surat call surat al waliyaa that justifies the 12 imaams( may allah protect us from shirk)

http://www.al-inaam.com/fataawa/shia_ka ... age001.jpg

This is a fake surat made by shiicas I think you are confused.

thats true shias claime thare are missing ayah in quran whichs kufr . but grandkhaliif unfortunatly SUNNAH qaasatan SALAFI WAHABI claime as too there was this ALLEGED VERSE about rajm wich was in quran


if you do not beleive me go any soomali webside like DURUUS.COM and listen saudi educated somali sh umul on hes tafsiir in SURAH NOOR about rajm, and listen how he say this ayah( A SHABEEYBATU WA SHABEEBATA ) WAS IN QURAN
AND SOME HOW its not in the quran we have today.

walaahi dhageyso, UMUL wuxuu yiri aayadaaan isagoo xadiis daliishanaya CUMAR BIN Khadaab rc ayaa xafidey waa AYAAD JIRTA.

MARKA is not only shiica its also SAUDI SCHOLARS who are worst than shicas inay sidii BIBELKA quraanka badalaan isku dayaya.

[Enlightened~Sista]

How can it be abrogated and its hukum still applies? I don't understand this, basically what is the point of Allah s.w.t doing away with the verse if we're meant to follow it? He shoulda just left it in there no?.. Also the verses according to Aisha RA were eaten up by a goat, no mention of abrogation.Check the hadeeth I posted.

Bareento, I agree one must exercise caution.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

How can it be abrogated and its hukum still applies? I don't understand this, basically what is the point of Allah s.w.t doing away with the verse if we're meant to follow it? He shoulda just left it in there no?.. Also the verses according to Aisha RA were eaten up by a goat, no mention of abrogation.Check the hadeeth I posted.

Bareento, I agree one must exercise caution.

yes it does not make sence that verse is abrogated and still its hukum applies it does not make sence what so ever. but what its amazing is allaged rajm verse whichs not even in the quran, so if its not in the quran then how can be abrogated becouse in the first place is not even part of 6666 verses of quran. all abrogated verses are still in the quran, verse to be abrogated it must be part of quran. but this fake verse so called rajm verse its not in the quran therefore it can not be abrogated.

quran contines 6666 verses and if you come up whit another verse which makes quran 6667 then its not about abrogation, its about missing, and if you claime there are missing verses then your trying so corrup quran like bibel was corrupted.

verses according to Aisha RA were eaten up by a goat,

this story about verse which was eaten by goat

this story according mny hadiith say both rajm verse and adulbreasfeeding verse was eaten by goat therefore they are missing in the quran we known today.
here sahiih MUSLIM HADIITH which claims there was about ADULTBREASTFEEDING

CAAISHA rc reported that it had been revealed in the Holy Qur’an that ten clear sucklings make the marriage unlawful, then it was abrogated (and substituted) by five sucklings Muslim, Hadith 2634)