It stinks

[FAH1223]

You think its never been thought of?
I am not dismissing the idea but saying that it needs to be modified to become realistic.

first of all you cannot bribe the top leadership, shiekh sharif is already a millionaire and is getting paid as we speak,
sacks of gold will not make him recognize somaliland, why should he?

The 500 parlaimentarians are a bunch of prostititutes with the biggest and most desperate ones bieng the
isaaq ones(dir woqoyi).Bribing them is easy, they will willingly agree to be gangbanged my some ugandans for $50,000 a head.
The problem is that they dont have the power to push through anything.

The primeminister has just sat down next to the giant breasts of overflowing milk that is the international aid doners
and he will start getting paid, so why would he be interested in another tit?


You are actually right, somaliland is bieng foolish, there is no recognition comming, anybody with half a brain can see that.
Recognition is taken and is not given (unless it fits into the major powers agenda like bosnia for example).

There is only one solution and this has a narrow avenue of success.
Somaliland should get into the southern quagmire fully.

Somaliland should support the development of an anti-alshabaab alliance in the regions.
The anti-alshabab forces are successfully defending thier turf and giving the alshabab a black eye but they lack the resources to go on the offensive.

Somaliland has 20,000 underutilized troops that are getting a salary for doing little, they are not allowed to go into sool
becuase it will alienate the Dhulos that we are wooing into marriage.( you dont kill your future bride to be if she refuses your overtures, but continue to woo her )

The US can provide the funds, needed for ammo and food and transport, somaliland the troops.

The formation of a new TFG is the next step, with this hopefully last conference held in Hargiesa or Burco.
The new TFG will agree to the secession of Somaliland officially..


I dont see any other way........

unless the chinese or Ophir oil discover billions of easily expolitable oil tommorrow, then
recognition is gained overnight.

yup

[The_Emperior5]

Guray somaliland should say Fuck to the west and allie them selfs with iran Eritrea china India and all these countries they are the super power of the future , and also fund an islamic faction Just like Xisbal xasuuq funded by Etirea TFG is the number one enemy of somaliland so their enemy is our friend

[The_Emperior5]

Oh look at the Reer Iidle kid, looks like reality is setting in 20,000 troops kulahaa. War yaad been u sheegaysaan ma idinkaa 20,000 askari haysta

Btw, if Obama Administration told you that you are going to be treated like Taiwan in Somalia, that is even worse situation than SL it is today. The West will only use the SL card when they can't get what they want from a strong Somali state (inshallah in the near future) but they don't have your interest at heart. You just need to accept who you are and that is you are Somalis like the rest of the Somalis, abandon this secessionist project, and play your cards in Somalia. Imagine being 20 years at peace and you didn't bother lobbying to transfer the Somali capital to Hargeisa? That is a lost opportunity on your part. The endless secessionist lobby you folks have embarked on have only helped the UN beaucrats in Nairobi who were spending in Nairobi the money intended for Somalia, Ethiopia who received and still receives all of the security funding intended for Somalia from the west, and all of the foreign lobbyists who are milking SL and its supporters for a recognition quest that they are not even able to deliver

Dude we dont want hargeisa to be the capital of somaliweyn why don't People get that
Somaliland will continue to exist as an independent state, These were the words of President Axmed maxammad maxamuud siilaanyo on his inauguration day

[FAH1223]

Emperior, there is no ictiraaf coming with the current policy.

China, Russia and Iran still do not compare to the USA. Don't get it twisted.

Recognition is taken and not given. Isolating yourself from the south won't get you recognition. Paidmonk's analysis is spot on... look at the Southern Sudanese in Khartoum right now!

[The_Emperior5]

Emperior, there is no ictiraaf coming with the current policy.

China, Russia and Iran still do not compare to the USA. Don't get it twisted.

Recognition is taken and not given. Isolating yourself from the south won't get you recognition. Paidmonk's analysis is spot on... look at the Southern Sudanese in Khartoum right now!

There is nothing we can do for The TFG runti if they cant get their act together how the fuck you do you break away from a a failled state did it happen when east timor was breaking away indonesias president was ruling The Entire indonesia When Isiyas wanted independence for his Eritrea Ethiopia was standing , 2011 when the south sudan votes for independence cumar al bashir his govt and country exist.

[Alluring]

I think Somalis should let the people of Somaliland do what they want. I am not trying to be controversial, but Isaaqs are the worst qabiil in Somalia (they're not violent, but they are evil to the core). They can be ultra religious or drunks and they still believe in qabiil and their victimization. They do not want to be part of Somalia, and let them go on their way. Why hold on to a group of people who are lost and add nothing of benefit to our nation?

I say GOOD RIDDANCE.

[The_Emperior5]

I think Somalis should let the people of Somaliland do what they want. I am not trying to be controversial, but Isaaqs are the worst qabiil in Somalia (they're not violent, but they are evil to the core). They can be ultra religious or drunks and they still believe in qabiil and their victimization. They do not want to be part of Somalia, and let them go on their way. Why hold on to a group of people who are lost and add nothing of benefit to our nation?

I say GOOD RIDDANCE.

But good i like it

[Alluring]

The devil lives in Somaliland. I have come to that conclusion.

[The_Emperior5]

The devil lives in Somaliland. I have come to that conclusion.

what makes you say that we are not bad people and why do you say they believe in qabil , i mean every somali clan is qabiliste to the bones

[Alluring]

No, most Somalis are not like Isaaqs. You guys are very different. You teach your children at a young age that they are "different" and you teach them to hate anything that isn't Isaaq. To be Isaaq is to be evil. Mooryans destroy stuff, but they don't teach their babies to hate their own people. Isaaqs are the worst Somalis, period. I have even done my own analysis (10 pages of material).

[The_Emperior5]

No, most Somalis are not like Isaaqs. You guys are very different. You teach your children at a young age that they are "different" and you teach them to hate anything that isn't Isaaq. To be Isaaq is to be evil. Mooryans destroy stuff, but they don't teach their babies to hate their own people. Isaaqs are the worst Somalis, period. I have even done my own analysis (10 pages of material).

Teaching our kids about somaliland is not teaching them to hate other people where did you get that nonsense from we are lovely people the thing is whith us we somalilanders we dont hide what we think we say it open if i dont like you i will say it i am not like a koonfurian and say aboowe aniga aa bari kula dheel dheela iga gaabso nooh we are not like that we say what we think and some people just dont understand that they want to be munafaqin beerka jecliya xaydha jecliya

[Alluring]

Even before the existence of Somaliland. The children were taught about being "Isaaq" and what it meant being one. Many of you would not even marry outside your qabiil, and if one (mostly the women do) their lives are nothing but pure hell and their children are abused if they step foot in Somaliland. It is like Jim Crow 1960 in Somaliland if you are a non-Issaq. Like I said, the devil lives in Somaliland and Issaq's are the worst Somalis. In all your history you've been nothing but a slave for the establishment.

I have done my own analysis and I would share it, but it is part of a bigger project I am working on.

[grandpakhalif]

The devil lives in Somaliland. I have come to that conclusion.

so your accusing a whole tribe to be shaydaan does Iblis live in the gulf of aden

[Alluring]

The devil lives in Somaliland. I have come to that conclusion.

so your accusing a whole tribe to be shaydaan does Iblis live in the gulf of aden

To accuse is to have doubt. I have no doubt that the devil lives in Somaliland.

[The_Emperior5]

Even before the existence of Somaliland. The children were taught about being "Isaaq" and what it meant being one. Many of you would not even marry outside your qabiil, and if one (mostly the women do) their lives are nothing but pure hell and their children are abused if they step foot in Somaliland. It is like Jim Crow 1960 in Somaliland if you are a non-Issaq. Like I said, the devil lives in Somaliland and Issaq's are the worst Somalis. In all your history you've been nothing but a slave for the establishment.

I have done my own analysis and I would share it, but it is part of a bigger project I am working on.

Listen girl if we teach our kids about their heritage and origin what crime did we do is it a crime to teach your kids about their origin and people ans since when is it a crime to marry from your own people, Somalilanders are open minded people and they dont mind other thinking people but you wont understand That you have been thought by your parents isaaqs are evil