Puntland and Dhulos.....

[Ureysoo]

(This is for Khalid Ali, and the rest who kept on asking about this issue)....

The reason why I find you lot quite backward is because you view things through a small window, or let me say – can’t think outside the box.

For those who argue – “The groups who breach a constitution should be fought” – What benefit would that bring? Care to explain!!!.

I have a different thought when it comes to such stance. It’s quite apparent that “POLITICS IS THE ART OF COMPROMISE”, the ability to negotiate and reach the middle ground at times of disagreements. There’s no such thing as “Guaranteed” grant in the final legislative package. No group can assure the possibility of having their policies implemented as they desire. That’s why the supporters of a specific policy MUST (read it carefully) sacrifice something of value to pledge the wellbeing of the administration’s political process.

Here we come to discuss “Puntland and Dhulos” issue. Ostensibly, Dhulos took apart of the establishment of Puntland, the preparation of its constitution and the contribution to its prosperity at a particular point of time. The arrangements were made, and they forwarded their REGION to be part of Puntland State. The thing that connected us at that time was the “MUTUAL INTEREST”, given that, Puntland is not a COUNTRY but a self-governed State within Somalia – therefore, it doesn’t have a defined borders and it’s political-borders are bound to change, as groups (clans) Join OR leave the State. (For example, a segment of Dhulos sub-clan joining Somaliland’s administration, out of political predisposition).

Most certainly, Puntland has a constitution system of fundamental doctrines and principles that sets down the “FUNCTION and LIMITATION” of the government. It’s also part of the laws to protect the state and fight those who stand against its operation and law, BUT (read this carefully) any SYSTEM which splits interest and responsibility apart is not a system that likely to work or succeed. WE WILL FIGHT WHEN IT’S IN OUR INTEREST TO DO SO.

Puntland’s administration RESPONSIBILITY, is to fight outsiders (by all means necessary) and opposition groups within the State – when it’s in the State’s interest (Dhulos comes under this category), and this obviously comes under the fundamental principles and constitution of the State, however, IS THERE any BENEFIT in taking such an action?. Let us say, we helped the Pro-Puntland Dhulos, to overwhelm the Anti-Puntland ones – would that restore peace into the region? Do you think the opposition groups will surrender?. Absolutely not!!!. As a consequence, Puntland state will be in a long-term anarchy and a state of disorder (not different from Greater Somalia). That’s exactly, the same reason why SOMALILAND is not in a peaceful state, or not being granted their so called “independence” in case you don’t know. The questioned 2 regions (Sool and Sanaag), which are under undefined borders, hinders Somaliland from pledging their sovereignty appeal forward. In order for a COUNTRY to be FORMED/RECOGNISED it should have DEFINED borders and be in a state of serenity (even a partial one, will do), and unfortunately they couldn’t manage to do so, because they are yet yearning to occupy the so called regions. That’s why I deem you lot don’t know anything about “POLITICS”. Puntland instead decided to COMPROMISE (now as I stated previously, that’s the art of POLITICS) in order to assure some political stability within the State. Puntland is thinking about drilling Oil, and inviting foreign companies and institutions into the State, and none of that will be granted, if there’s no peace in Puntland (engaging in more wars will even make this harder for us). Additionally, there’s no point in persuading a clan (Dhulos) whom can’t even share a joint political-inclination and switches positions as they desire. Therefore what good outcome can be brought out of FIGHTING THEM? Nothing Indeed.

That’s why it been said “Governments has no rights (such as Puntland’s administration), it is a delegation from several individuals/groups (such as different clans within that State) for the purpose of securing their own rights (That group can SECURE THEIR OWN RIGHTS, ONLY when they SHARE SIMILAR INTEREST and agree to have a joint liability). Dhulos on other hand, don’t want to take responsibility for the troubles their kinsmen are causing. What can individuals of different political-outlook do together, apart from disagreeing and standing against the implementation of policies from the different group (specially when they both fail to compromise)?. That’s when the call for constitution amendments and judicial reforms are needed the most, in order to REPESENT the DEMANDS of the groups who share mutual interest – (an interest such as, the search for the progression of Puntland State). Therefore, we can fairly argue the Anti-Puntland Dhulos and their settlements are not any longer part of Puntland, and the isolation was part of the reformation of our policies in sequence to our lookout for peace and development.....

[The_Emperior5]

Ureyso thats just Bulshit when attam and a group of warsangali attacked galgala the Entire Puntland Army went their to fight him why can't they fight pro somaliland dhulos i mean you said it your self you don't have defined borders there for you can only rule your own clan fiefdom The Maxamuud selebaan trinity as the siwaaqroon are breaking away now and days . Mutual interest you keep repeating should be that the Puntland admin should defend the state from any agressor with in or with out. But that's not the case here. As for us we know what we want we have defined borders and the borders of 1884 till 1960 . you keep saying dhulos don't take their responsibility , but its for the Admin of faroole to take the responsibility , you can't have it both ways girl. you Majeerteens just take what you get if you want to be part of our clan state we welcome you it if you don't then so be it . we will not fight for you while the dhulos fought for cabdilahi yusuf . So stop making excuses for the failure of the majeerteniya clan state.

[Executive]

The days of Somaliland and Puntland are over, no point you two calaacal.

SSC

[The_Emperior5]

The days of Somaliland and Puntland are over, no point you two calaacal.

SSC

VIva ssc

[Ureysoo]

Ureyso thats just Bulshit when attam and a group of warsangali attacked galgala the Entire Puntland Army went their to fight him why can't they fight pro somaliland dhulos i mean you said it your self you don't have defined borders there for you can only rule your own clan fiefdom The Maxamuud selebaan trinity as the siwaaqroon are breaking away now and days . Mutual interest you keep repeating should be that the Puntland admin should defend the state from any agressor with in or with out. But that's not the case here. As for us we know what we want we have defined borders and the borders of 1884 till 1960 . you keep saying dhulos don't take their responsibility , but its for the Admin of faroole to take the responsibility , you can't have it both ways girl. you Majeerteens just take what you get if you want to be part of our clan state we welcome you it if you don't then so be it . we will not fight for you while the dhulos fought for cabdilahi yusuf . So stop making excuses for the failure of the majeerteniya clan state.

Simple -- Attam is a Puntlander regardless, and he stated it clearly, however, the Pro-Somaliland and SSC Dhulos holds a different political stand. You seriously don't think, don't you?. Alongside, Somaliland doesn’t have defined borders neither mate, and that's why they are yet in constant fights with the neighboring clans, and that’s one of the main reasons why their recognition request been declined too. Every State in Somalia does not have a defined border and that's why they are subject to be raided and all sort of other clans/groups invasion/occupation. Don’t just argue for the sake of argument.

The Siwaqroons you are yapping on about are not breaking out, nevertheless, wants to govern their internal issues and settlements, yet be part of Puntland (it’s called Casayrland). Again, what defending the Administration and sharing mutual interest with the neighboring clans got 2 do with each other? (Think before you type mate). As I stated previously, the settlements will be defended when the residents in such territory are willing to be under Puntland’s administration or share mutual interest. Meaningless battles will only hinder our political progress in this crucial, and that’s the art of politics (Compromise). One more thing --- Sool region is partially under Somaliland’s administration, because the inhabitants of that region (Dhulos) fought for it, not because Somaliland’s forces seized power over that region under duress. Buhuudle in particular, witnessed Dhulos on Dhulos crime (one side was supporting Somaliland’s cause, and the other was against it), no outsiders took part in that battle, and the same goes 2 Widh-Widh fights. Ha Iska Hadlin.

It’s faroole’s responsibility? To do what exactly? Care to explain. You know that Puntland enforcements were been sent to Cayn before, and the Dhulos betrayed them and they got slaughtered as a consequence?. Again, most of Sool lands are part of Somaliland, not because Somalilanders took over it, but because the clans residing their chose to, and as soon as they change their political-proclivity – the whole scenario will change. Sool’s battles is 90% between Dhulos. In case, you need a reminder, who actually took over Lascanood and handed it over to Somaliland?. Therefore, why fritter away souls and restrict the State’s development?.

Clan state? What do you call Lealkase, Awrtable, Carab Saalix, Dashiishle, and Warsangeli in Puntland state?. Majeertens?. Awalba Maskax Ma Laheeyn, didn’t expect a lot from you.....

[GENERAL_SNM]

Bottom line is without dressing up words one false move and you are history. Any war will be in Puntland we Somalilanders have to play soft ball with our local Dhullos but we wont loose sleep over bringing Bassoss to its knees.