Deen, Marriage and Work

[LobsterUnit]

A fair percentage of young Somalis are having pre maritial relations these days.This clearly goes against the norms of our culture and religion. Our prophet said young people should get married to avoid Zina.Yet, at the same time, more and more parents are putting more of an emphasis on education rather than the big wedding of their kids. I know parents who refused a 25 year old girl to get married because she only finished uni and they apparently wanted her to get on her own feet.Furthermore, as we become more and more westernised in our lifestyles,the age of marriage will/is eventually increasing. In my opinion, to expect young folks to adhere to the deen/culture and get married around the average of 26 whilst living in non Muslim countries is something which is ultimately very hard to balance and can lead to various problems( like, the "ohhhh shit,the sweet inantu maha virgin on the first drama stories, i aint marrying this"). After a great deal of research into this topic from various Somali barbers, cafes and mosques, i strongly believe more parents should encourage their children to get married by at least their second year of uni. I will start the proceedings by officially asking for qoraxey and nabeela. Where are the Marehan Carew?

[Ka darag]

marry if you are able to...most parents just don't understand these days...reality hits them in the face when the daughter brings a garac home or something

i mean like u said ...this is the UK....u can't expect young people to stay away from the opposite sex..it's just not happening...my mum used to say when u finish uni bla bla blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa .

Parents need to open their EYES!

[*Nobleman*]

Parents need to understand the society that their children are living in. Theres one of two options for a young person, fast or marriage. Instead parents burden young people that want to get married and hence they resort to sinning.

[Yoousef]

Parents need to understand the society that their children are living in. Theres one of two options for a young person, fast or marriage. Instead parents burden young people that want to get married and hence they resort to sinning.

I don't know many somalis but from here and a few other places I'm hearing this is very common with men and women to interact. Also for somali men and women to do things before marriage and commit zina.

But what I don't understand is, Isn't it a major sin? If it is why is it so common then?

I always thought never eat pork, never drink, never take drugs and never have sex before marriage. I assumed they were equal, yet some somalis would never eat pork or drink but do zina?

[Ka darag]

Parents need to understand the society that their children are living in. Theres one of two options for a young person, fast or marriage. Instead parents burden young people that want to get married and hence they resort to sinning.

I don't know many somalis but from here and a few other places I'm hearing this is very common with men and women to interact. Also for somali men and women to do things before marriage and commit zina.

But what I don't understand is, Isn't it a major sin? If it is why is it so common then?

I always thought never eat pork, never drink, never take drugs and never have sex before marriage. I assumed they were equal, yet some somalis would never eat pork or drink but do zina?

Your iman gets weak when u live in a non muslim country, since zina is the norm around here...it's hard for you not to do it yourself unless you avoid a lot of things.. free mixing is the norm, so men and women are interacting all the time...people are human therefore shit happens dee
Hmmm, I don't know if they are equal, but they don't take you out of the religion and you can repent at the end of the day. I think the only thing that takes you out of the religion is shirk ( someone correct me if I am wrong)

[Yoousef]

Parents need to understand the society that their children are living in. Theres one of two options for a young person, fast or marriage. Instead parents burden young people that want to get married and hence they resort to sinning.

I don't know many somalis but from here and a few other places I'm hearing this is very common with men and women to interact. Also for somali men and women to do things before marriage and commit zina.

But what I don't understand is, Isn't it a major sin? If it is why is it so common then?

I always thought never eat pork, never drink, never take drugs and never have sex before marriage. I assumed they were equal, yet some somalis would never eat pork or drink but do zina?

Your iman gets weak when u live in a non muslim country, since zina is the norm around here...it's hard for you not to do it yourself unless you avoid a lot of things.. free mixing is the norm, so men and women are interacting all the time...people are human therefore shit happens dee
Hmmm, I don't know if they are equal, but they don't take you out of the religion and you can repent at the end of the day. I think the only thing that takes you out of the religion is shirk ( someone correct me if I am wrong)

Ok I see thank you, but the way I used to think about it was sex, drugs and alcohol is the worst things to do that you will go to hell for. So I thought it was all bad, so I used to try to avoid it so much.

I see now, why it is common because of the inter mixing and you can easily fall into it. So zina doesn't take you out of your religion? and is repenting really that easy?

[Ka darag]

Ok I see thank you, but the way I used to think about it was sex, drugs and alcohol is the worst things to do that you will go to hell for. So I thought it was all bad, so I used to try to avoid it so much.

I see now, why it is common because of the inter mixing and you can easily fall into it. So zina doesn't take you out of your religion? and is repenting really that easy?[/quote]

Ermmm there are conditions u have to meet when repenting...i've forgotten them, but i'll google it for ya

nah zina doesn't take you out of ur religion...i hope ur not serious

[Yoousef]

Ermmm there are conditions u have to meet when repenting...i've forgotten them, but i'll google it for ya

nah zina doesn't take you out of ur religion...i hope ur not serious

Why do you hope I am not serious?

For me or for you? I haven't done it.

[Ka darag]

For repentance to be accepted by Allah, one should go through these four stages:

1- Stop the sin.
2- Regretting deeply and truly for the sin you committed.
3- Return to Allah for forgiveness.
4- Strong intention never to return to that same sin again.

[qoraxeey]

lol gajo. I think u should get married after finishing the education

[Yoousef]

For repentance to be accepted by Allah, one should go through these four stages:

1- Stop the sin.
2- Regretting deeply and truly for the sin you committed.
3- Return to Allah for forgiveness.
4- Strong intention never to return to that same sin again.

Then do these somalis who commit zina, do they do it once repent and not do it again, sister?

[Ka darag]

For repentance to be accepted by Allah, one should go through these four stages:

1- Stop the sin.
2- Regretting deeply and truly for the sin you committed.
3- Return to Allah for forgiveness.
4- Strong intention never to return to that same sin again.

Then do these somalis who commit zina, do they do it once repent and not do it again, sister?

dude, ur really lacking brain cells walahi.. dee i don't know...everyone is an individual...

and LMFAO at sister hahaha

[Yoousef]

dude, ur really lacking brain cells walahi.. dee i don't know...everyone is an individual...

and LMFAO at sister hahaha

Why am I. Walahi I don't know what somalis do in there private lives, I don't even know any.

I don't get it, when you repend you can never do it again. So do they do it once and it is forgiven???

[Ka darag]

dude, ur really lacking brain cells walahi.. dee i don't know...everyone is an individual...

and LMFAO at sister hahaha

Why am I. Walahi I don't know what somalis do in there private lives, I don't even know any.

I don't get it, when you repend you can never do it again. So do they do it once and it is forgiven???

It's up to Allah (SWT)

[SultanOrder]

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