there is only one somalia.SahanGalbeed wrote:2 countries , ours and yours .
Best idea on how to unite the Somali's
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we like yours too thoSahanGalbeed wrote:2 countries , ours and yours .
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The cantons should still have their own "National Guard" units, like US states do, in addition to the National Army.
Each Canton should have it's own central bank (though only the National Bank can print money) and can manage their own fiscal policy.
Set a tax rate of 7.5% for anyone above the poverty line (2.5% is Zakat and set aside for poverty related social programs, 5% is Ushr tithe for the state and armed forces).
Middle class people pay the full Ushr of 10%.
Of the Ushr tithe, 1/5th is set aside for the Canton's National Guard, and the rest goes to pay the canton budget (Roads, infrastructure, development programs, etc). Non-Zakat taxes are split 3/4 to the canton, 1/4 to the federal government.
Rich people pay 25% rather than 12.5% (they pay double Zakat for alleviating poverty and also Kharaj tax as rich landowners, for an additional 10%)
Half the Federal Government budget goes to the military and the other half goes to the federal government budget (embassies, foreign relations, the executive office etc).
Each Canton should have it's own central bank (though only the National Bank can print money) and can manage their own fiscal policy.
Set a tax rate of 7.5% for anyone above the poverty line (2.5% is Zakat and set aside for poverty related social programs, 5% is Ushr tithe for the state and armed forces).
Middle class people pay the full Ushr of 10%.
Of the Ushr tithe, 1/5th is set aside for the Canton's National Guard, and the rest goes to pay the canton budget (Roads, infrastructure, development programs, etc). Non-Zakat taxes are split 3/4 to the canton, 1/4 to the federal government.
Rich people pay 25% rather than 12.5% (they pay double Zakat for alleviating poverty and also Kharaj tax as rich landowners, for an additional 10%)
Half the Federal Government budget goes to the military and the other half goes to the federal government budget (embassies, foreign relations, the executive office etc).
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you dont understand the somali mindsetabdisamad3 wrote:there will be rule's to follow..and if any president become's corrupted sharci baa la marin..Nomand wrote:wont work
each president will get his vultures which will steal the resources and after 4 years in power there will be nothing left for the next president or the people.
if a somali is told that he is the president then he wants absolute power and the first thing he will do is destroy the sharci and make his own.
the best solution for somalia is rule under a kingdom and ruled by one king then succeeded by his eldest son. the king wants to leave a legacy and wants to be known as honorable so will not get vultures.
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everyone pays the same percentage of tax except the poor.James Dahl wrote:The cantons should still have their own "National Guard" units, like US states do, in addition to the National Army.
Each Canton should have it's own central bank (though only the National Bank can print money) and can manage their own fiscal policy.
Set a tax rate of 12.5% for anyone above the poverty line (2.5% is Zakat and set aside for poverty related social programs, 10% is Ushr tithe for the state and armed forces). 2% is set aside for the Canton's National Guard, and the rest goes to pay the canton budget (Roads, infrastructure, development programs, etc).
Rich people pay 25% rather than 12.5% (they pay double Zakat for alleviating poverty and also Kharaj tax as rich landowners, 10% again split 8% to the canton, 2% to the federal government)
Half the Federal Government budget goes to the military and the other half goes to the federal government budget (embassies, foreign relations, the executive office etc).
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That's not strictly true. For instance mining (oil, gas and mineral exploration) has a 20% Zakat levied onto it, rainfed farmland gets 10% and irrigated farmland gets 5%, that's in addition to a 10% tithe from Ushr and a 10% Kharaj tax so in a strictly Islamic society a very rich farmer should be expected to pay 30% in taxes and an oil baron 40%.Nomand wrote:everyone pays the same percentage of tax except the poor.James Dahl wrote:The cantons should still have their own "National Guard" units, like US states do, in addition to the National Army.
Each Canton should have it's own central bank (though only the National Bank can print money) and can manage their own fiscal policy.
Set a tax rate of 12.5% for anyone above the poverty line (2.5% is Zakat and set aside for poverty related social programs, 10% is Ushr tithe for the state and armed forces). 2% is set aside for the Canton's National Guard, and the rest goes to pay the canton budget (Roads, infrastructure, development programs, etc).
Rich people pay 25% rather than 12.5% (they pay double Zakat for alleviating poverty and also Kharaj tax as rich landowners, 10% again split 8% to the canton, 2% to the federal government)
Half the Federal Government budget goes to the military and the other half goes to the federal government budget (embassies, foreign relations, the executive office etc).
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Liberation of Ogadenia will diminish the Habesha infuence in Somali issues. Dabodhilifnimo will cease to exist. Only then we will have a chance of sovereignty, unity and birth of Somaliweyn with capital as Wardheer.
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Wouldn't Harar be more appropriate for historical reasons?mudugawi wrote:Liberation of Ogadenia will diminish the Habesha infuence in Somali issues. Dabodhilifnimo will cease to exist. Only then we will have a chance of sovereignty, unity and birth of Somaliweyn with capital as Wardheer.
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The president will not have the power to change the constitution..in order to do so it has to be agreed in the senate and senate members can vote for any change's..and since the senate members will be from different qabiils representing different people than one qabil will not have the power to change anything.Nomand wrote:you dont understand the somali mindsetabdisamad3 wrote:there will be rule's to follow..and if any president become's corrupted sharci baa la marin..Nomand wrote:wont work
each president will get his vultures which will steal the resources and after 4 years in power there will be nothing left for the next president or the people.
if a somali is told that he is the president then he wants absolute power and the first thing he will do is destroy the sharci and make his own.
the best solution for somalia is rule under a kingdom and ruled by one king then succeeded by his eldest son. the king wants to leave a legacy and wants to be known as honorable so will not get vultures.
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and that is why we need a functioning united state in Somalia before we can even dream of ogadenia..mudugawi wrote:Liberation of Ogadenia will diminish the Habesha infuence in Somali issues. Dabodhilifnimo will cease to exist. Only then we will have a chance of sovereignty, unity and birth of Somaliweyn with capital as Wardheer.
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From a historic perspective, Harar would be good but I am guessing the current demographics show that the oromos have a higher population there compared to us thus they could claim the city alongside the harari natives. The reason I chose Wardheer was because of its central location in the Somali peninsula as well as being the centre of where the major clans meet, landwise. Other cities that could be possible capitals of Somaliweyn could be Ceerigaabo, Gaalkacyo or good old Mogadishu.James Dahl wrote:Wouldn't Harar be more appropriate for historical reasons?mudugawi wrote:Liberation of Ogadenia will diminish the Habesha infuence in Somali issues. Dabodhilifnimo will cease to exist. Only then we will have a chance of sovereignty, unity and birth of Somaliweyn with capital as Wardheer.
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So we're supposed to let some un-eleceted, unqualified idiot to run the country because another qabil ruled before him/her??
Thats a one way ticket to end up right back where the country is right now...if not worse.
How do you know that the prez wont start a genocide against a group of people they hate?
No,the only way to survive is we kill all the people who are pro-qabil or coerce them into living a qabil free life....their choice...die or assimilate.
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Is to bring every somali to the west. In exchange west will go there. Really Every family in Somalia will never hestitate to come here. We somalis are former slaves of Persia.
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We need a Chairman MAo and a cultural revolution.
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