Qabiils and their Racial Equals, a Comparative

[The_Patriot]

One thing also is do you think that if the entire ogaden clan region lived under the Italian colony and got the same preferential treatment as the MJ would they not be more successful or at per with them?

Two things occured which made all the Somalis, regardless their background, equal: the colonization and the civil war. After these two, only one clan rose up and got their act together. if the Italians loved Majeerteen more than the rest, they wouldn't have attackted them from four directions, besides where were the Italians in the nineties?

Ogadeen got lots of intellectuals ma ogi waxa haya

If you are going to put MJ as the control. Then your argument would be true if at least 80% of Ogaden clan leaved in Somalia.
Having a lot of intellectuals is not solution when they all have different environments.

The argument is would MJ be the same if they were split into 3 countries ? 2 of which they are the dominant clan in their ethnic group and are under hostile environments?

As for the other clans I do believe they( MJ) were successful as they had the same environment and they exploited it to their advantage.

To kill a snake you have to attack the head of the snake and I guess to overcome the Somali nation you have to paralyse the Ogaden clan. Thats what foreign policy makers have been doing.

[maxbol]

Nimanyohow qabiilka daaya waa qurmoon, waxna ma dhiso wuxuu dumiyo mooyaane, heerka aan maanta taaganahay waxa ina soo gaarsiiyey wax kale ma aha ee waa QABIIL. Haddaynaan daynayn, wax walba wax bay dhaamaane, si degen u darsoo taariikhda ha qaloocina, daciif xumoo dhami darajo uu lahayn ha u tolinina, dadkii taariikh dahabi lahaana hala daba marinina, hadaydnaan dafireyn ood ogaal u daboolayn, waxaa diiwaanada qoreen qaarkoodka da'deenu ina soo gaarsiisay in saddex goorba SADE badbaadshay Islaam iyo Soomaaliba:

1520 - 1550 Axmed Gurey iyo Amiir Nuur.
1969 - 1991 President Barre
2010 - now PM Farmaajo

[Methylamine]

Isaaq -Asian Americans: You won't find overachievers nor will they be acknowledged in popular culture but you won't find many underachievers among them either. They are under the radar but they do well for themselves and are stereotyped as being docile but successful.

idk about you, but doesn't that seem contradicting?

[abdalla11]

Patriot, i have no problem if you analyze the plight of your clan and the reasons of it even if you exagerate, but don't give the credits of my people's success to a nation that bombarded us and wanted our destruction, a nation that were leading the fight against them and despise.

A clear indication of our success is that certain members brag about having a PM ( in the TFG we created lol) for the first time ever, while we had 2 PM's and a President since 2001, forgot our record before the civil war.

[TheblueNwhite]

Patriot, i have no problem if you analyze the plight of your clan and the reasons of it even if you exagerate, but don't give the credits of my people's success to a nation that bombarded us and wanted our destruction, a nation that were leading the fight against them and despise.

A clear indication of our success is that certain members brag about having a PM ( in the TFG we created lol) for the first time ever, while we had 2 PM's and a President since 2001, forgot our record before the civil war.

This Ahole is still hating on Hawiye.
Not only Hawiye got the first presidency of Somalia but the last man standing in villa Somalia today is a Hawiye nigga. Hurts don't it. Damn. 2 PMs and 2 Presidents since 2001.

You got booted out of the capital for the second time this time with your Ethiopian boyfriends and USA airstrikes. Lets not forget the sweetest part of all, General Gabre slapping Yey like the lil bitch that he is. haha!

I wouldn't brag about power now, Eiydeed AUN bitch slapped Yey couple of times when he got out of jailand wanted to share power with him. Who can forget Cumar Jees, a cagdheer warlord rounding up and killing MaJeerteen intellectuals in broad daylight just so he can appease the Hawiye lion! damn son. Eiydeed showed you what you are, nothing. Took whatever he wanted from you, anytime of the day, night, hour and seconds and their wasn't a damn thing you bitches can do to him.
That is why the USA made a movie about him, he shamed them, and we are talking about the most powerful country in the world here. Now you understand how meaningless you are.

Fuck, recently Futoole was the only retard who accepted that nigga Mahiga's invitation. That is indicative of your pathetic nationalism, willing to sell your people to the highest bidder again just so futoole can sit in what looks like a presidential chair in Garowe because lets face it nigga doesn't have the guts to step 50km within Xamar.

What was that Cornel Yey said, whoever controls Xamar is the most powerful, wacdaro soo kama danbeyn, today he is a refugee in Yemen because of Hawiye, if he was a real nigga like General Eiydeed was he would've been in Garowe or Galkacyo today instead of that Arab diarhea of country called Yemen. While Geedi can come back to Xamar. Damn damn.

MSB Allah yarxamu was kicked out because of Hawiye. Without the USC you bitches would be living in dungeons and cleaning Aabe Siyaad's toilets.
When it comes to warriors and lions, Hawiye is the name and none of you fuckers can actually go up against them.
What happened to Galgala sub clan in '91? that is right, you mess with Hawiye you pay the price! a hefty price, your blood.

As far as intellect goes, Hawiye has as much if not more than the other clans when it comes to PhD and Master holders, Doctors, savy politicians, writers, journalists, Engineers, poets, entrepreneurs, millionaires, artists and students enrolled in Universities.
Don't ever badmouth the hand that freed your slave asses. USC baby! MashaAllah

[Murax]

Patriot, i have no problem if you analyze the plight of your clan and the reasons of it even if you exagerate, but don't give the credits of my people's success to a nation that bombarded us and wanted our destruction, a nation that were leading the fight against them and despise.

A clear indication of our success is that certain members brag about having a PM ( in the TFG we created lol) for the first time ever, while we had 2 PM's and a President since 2001, forgot our record before the civil war.

Say what You want, but there was only one man who ruled from Ras Casayr down to Raskamboni over to Boorame for 21 out of 30 years of Somali Statehood. You can take it how You wanna take it.

[abdalla11]

Murax, that man was made major Gen by a Majeerteen PM and a when PM Cigaal wanted to fire him it was a Majeerteen minister of interior who refused and stood up for him. And who brought him safely from Xamar to Gedo when you guys left him when shit got ugly? Majeerteen did more for him than you will ever do.

Thewhite,

Believe me, Hawiye won't rest as long as there is a Majeerteen. Even in your 'glory days' in begin sixties your people use cry 'marna rashiid marna razaaq inta kale ma rootibaa' lol. The poor cagdheers and ilkoyar can be naive, but if you enter a 'coaltion' with us, we make sure you will be the b!tch. Do you remember 2006?

I am using the MJ card while you are using the Hawiye card, who's more successfull marka?lol.

You are talking about Caydiid who was killed by a teenager. War did a Hawiye ever have the guts to come to Puntland and demanded the Presidency like AY demanded the presidency in your own backyard? Speaking about the USC who dismantled them politically? As i said Majeerteen has his eyes on YOU

[TheblueNwhite]

Murax, that man was made major Gen by a Majeerteen PM and a when PM Cigaal wanted to fire him it was a Majeerteen minister of interior who refused and stood up for him. And who brought him safely from Xamar to Gedo when you guys left him when shit got ugly? Majeerteen did more for him than you will ever do.

Thewhite,

Believe me, Hawiye won't rest as long as there is a Majeerteen. Even in your 'glory days' in begin sixties your people use cry 'marna rashiid marna razaaq inta kale ma rootibaa' lol. The poor cagdheers and ilkoyar can be naive, but if you enter a 'coaltion' with us, we make sure you will be the b!tch. Do you remember 2006?

I am using the MJ card while you are using the Hawiye card, who's more successfull marka?lol.

You are talking about Caydiid who was killed by a teenager. War did a Hawiye ever have the guts to come to Puntland and demanded the Presidency like AY demanded the presidency in your own backyard? Speaking about the USC who dismantled them politically? As i said Majeerteen has his eyes on YOU

hahaha...a president should be at villa Somalia. Why was Yey at Baydhabo and not the Villa he renovated?
I don't see Sharif in Baydhabo, villa baydhabo yes i see him there .
AY needed 50 000 Ethiopians to defeat Hawiye, and guess who ended up leaving the South, yep Yey and his Ethiopian masters. If you MJs were real they would've brought themselves instead of bringing Ethiopian muscle, it is an embarrassment to the Somali way of fighting.
That is why you can't really claim victory in 2006, and you know for a fact that without the Ethiopians you would've been destroyed and removed from the face of the earth.

Abdullahi Issa the first Prime minister of Somalia from 1954–1960.
Aden Abdulle Osman was the first president of Somalia, again where were the MJs then?
it just goes to show you that if a nigga is gonna control anything from Mogadisho that nigga will have to hail from the Hawiye clan. Based on the above names and positions, who is jealous of who exactly?

btw, Yey didn't take anything from Hawiye background it was the Hawiye warlords that gave him the presidency so that they can remain powerful and continue doing their thang. Learn your history nigga, no MJ can move an inch without the blessings of a Hawiye and as far as Xamar is concerned, well, your houses were taken while you watched, where was SSDF power then? tell me? Hawiye slapped you so many times, you can't think straight anymore.

When it comes to cuqdo, I will give you a great example, Sharif never mentions PL, whereas Futoole always hates on Sharif. I remember just before Farmaajo was selected and nominated for the PM spot, Futoole crying like lil bitch to the media, even Warsengeli Garaad ex Siyad Barre spy was issuing threats. haha, damn. All Sharif said was it is time for Marexan to shine again and boi are they shining right now. Left and right and centre you have been booted out of the capital by force and there wasn't a damn thing you could do about it. Hawiye takes what they want when they want it from you.

No competition whatsoever.

Real niggas v Ayan Hirsi and Weris

[abdalla11]

War yaad been usheekeesaa? I was dealing with you since 1870, you cant fool us

Who's this guy?



Do you see his stick? The guy looks PISSED OFF, who knows he might released his anger on your forefathers

Here's your adeer kissing MJ ass lol

http://www.togane.org/index.php/extende ... kan_money/

[TheblueNwhite]

Why you quoting one man's opinion? don't you have historical facts?

I have provided you with examples, i.e. the first president of Somalia, the first prime minister.

You are retarded if you think posting pics of man wearing woman's clothes is gonna save you.