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although I know your hearts and Minds are locked as you already told allah long time ago, ( Quluubunaa Qulfaa), I still have the responsibility to guide you to the right path insha allah. Look at this Ayah incase they melt your hearts.

Gacanbaa lajarayaah, dadbaa la dhagaxyaynayaah,waxaas way nugu cusubyihiin bla bla bla Theory,

1) Killing TFG, AMisom, ahlu sufiyah etc soldiers,
The recompense for those who wage war against God and his Messenger[4], and strive with might and main for mischief through the land[5] is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land. That is their disgrace in this world, and for them in the hereafter is a severe punishment. (5:33)
allah Said,
And We ordained for them in [the Torah]: “Person for person, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal.” But if anyone remits the retaliation as charity, it shall be an expiation for him. And whoever does not judge by what God has sent down, such are the transgressors (zalimun)[6]. (5:45)
allah said,
O you who believe! Retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the slain, the free for the free, and the slave for the slave, and the female for the female. But if one (who killed) is forgiven by the brother of (the one killed) against ransom, there should be follow up in fairness and payment to the heir in handsome gratitude. This is a concession from your Lord and a mercy (from him). Then whoever exceeds the limit (of the ransom agreement) after this he shall have a painful chastisement. (2:178)
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May anyone who is against Shariica In Somalia Rot In Hell Insha allah. aamiin.
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hanad_mn wrote:May anyone who is against Shariica In Somalia Rot In Hell Insha allah. aamiin.
Brother why is your heart cold?

Does a mentally ill person recieve no consideration from us humans? when their creator expects not even basic duties like praying.
or exile from the land
Why not take the more merciful option and Exile those who fight against shabab instead of making them disabled?
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Cirwaaq,

akhii,

The only people that is crippled are the Qaadicu dariiq's. Those who stand on the road and rob muslims. They would not be shown mercy because they don't show mercy on others. They rob the Orphans, the elderly, the women and the poor. They are so greedy and only think of themselves. If they are left to go, Justice would not be served to the hundreds that they Oppressed and robbed. Marka xuduuda ayaa laga goynayaah.Also, crippling them is good for them because they already paid for what they did in the world and would not be punished for the same crime In aakhira. Cadaabta ayaa uga daran lug iyo gacan laga jaro. Marka they are being shown mercy on earth by being crippled so that they don't get punished so heavily in the day of judgement.

Wabilaahi towfiiq.
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hanad_mn wrote:Cirwaaq,

Whenever alshabaab get hold of one of the Murtadiins, they normally give them a chance to repent and come back to Islam. also, they can go to exile anytime because no one is forcing them to stay with the Murtadiins. If they have guns and arrogantly continue to fight the Mujaahidiins, also, anyone who go to the non-believers side like the amisom and start fighting the Muslims, would not be considered a muslim according to the Qur'an.

When shabab's actions cause the death of an innocent muslim what is the law against shabab in this situation?
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Cirwaaq wrote:
hanad_mn wrote:Cirwaaq,

Whenever alshabaab get hold of one of the Murtadiins, they normally give them a chance to repent and come back to Islam. also, they can go to exile anytime because no one is forcing them to stay with the Murtadiins. If they have guns and arrogantly continue to fight the Mujaahidiins, also, anyone who go to the non-believers side like the amisom and start fighting the Muslims, would not be considered a muslim according to the Qur'an.

When shabab's actions cause the death of an innocent muslim what is the law against shabab in this situation?
If alshabaab soldier kills an innocent person intentionally, He would get the xuduud. The relatives of the victims would choose what they want to do to the soldier including killing him. It happen in baydhabo where alshabaab soldier was executed for innocently killing disorbedient person.
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if you mean alshabaab attacking murtadiins and the Murtadiins shelling people, then allah would hold accountable for whoever fired the rocket at the innocent not the person who started the fight. Alshabaab are only fullfilling their obligation by stopping fasaad from the ardh as allah instructed them to do. Wabilaahi towfiq.
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Do you consider yourself against sharia for not moving back to somalia to be part of shabab?
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Cirwaaq wrote:Do you consider yourself against sharia for not moving back to somalia to be part of shabab?
No, because I am far away. America is a peaceful country and Muslim americans are not oppressed. There is no Jihaad going on in Minnesota and Muslims are respected. We are supposed to be good example and be peaceful whenever the non-muslims are not waging war against Muslims. The only jihaad that is wajib to me is the Jihaaadu nafsi which means I must fight with shaydaan so that I don't stray from allaah's way. I have to be strict muslim and follow my religion.

If I am denied My rights to worship allah and Practice my religion, then that is when Jihaad becomes wajib to me.
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hanad_mn wrote:
Cirwaaq wrote:Do you consider yourself against sharia for not moving back to somalia to be part of shabab?
No, because I am far away. America is a peaceful country and Muslim americans are not oppressed. There is no Jihaad going on in Minnesota and Muslims are respected. We are supposed to be good example and be peaceful whenever the non-muslims are not waging war against Muslims. The only jihaad that is wajib to me is the Jihaaadu nafsi which means I must fight with shaydaan so that I don't stray from allaah's way. I have to be strict muslim and follow my religion.

If I am denied My rights to worship allah and Practice my religion, then that is when Jihaad becomes wajib to me.
On the day of judgement will you stand by every shabab member and give testament that you witnessed their every deed as pure and just without flaws and human error exactly in accordance with sharia law?
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Cirwaaq,

Mistakes happen. It happen during the time of the sahaba( remember the sahabi who beheaded the man who said the shahada when he was about to be killed but got beheaded anyway and the Prophet had to be angry about). In the day of judgement, what counts is the Niyah. Ina mal acmaalu biniyaad. If this soldier came from Hargeysa, bosaaso, Gedo, cadaado and Muqdisho for " Kalimatulaah hiyal culyaa," or to raise allah's shariica, he would be a Mujaahid regardless of his mistakes. The Sahabi that beheaded the other one did not go to jahanam.

all in all, what counts is the fact that,

alshabaab is fighting for one reason. To establish allah's shariica in somalia. Murtadiins are fighting with them to implement Shariica and are forcing them to accept democracy. So who do you think would go to Jannah?
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hanad_mn wrote:Cirwaaq,

Mistakes happen. It happen during the time of the sahaba( remember the sahabi who beheaded the man who said the shahada when he was about to be killed but got beheaded anyway and the Prophet had to be angry about). In the day of judgement, what counts is the Niyah. Ina mal acmaalu biniyaad. If this soldier came from Hargeysa, bosaaso, Gedo, cadaado and Muqdisho for " Kalimatulaah hiyal culyaa," or to raise allah's shariica, he would be a Mujaahid regardless of his mistakes. The Sahabi that beheaded the other one did not go to jahanam.

all in all, what counts is the fact that,

alshabaab is fighting for one reason. To establish allah's shariica in somalia. Murtadiins are fighting with them to implement Shariica and are forcing them to accept democracy. So who do you think would go to Jannah?
1. Somali people are all muslim regardless of the differing degrees of practice.
2. Shabab is better needed in the refugee camps of Kenya and the Ogadeen desert of ethiopia.

Instead of oppresing the somali people that have been suffering for 20years would their Jihaad be more valid else where?
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People like hanad_mn try to compensate their weak imaan and ignorance in the diin, (not to mention their lack of proper conviction and confusion in this day and age where Muslims seem to be anything but United and strong) for misplaced militancy and holier than thou attitude. Like a man who's place is God's right hand, he makes constant fatwas and condemn other muslims to hell. Abusing Islam and the holy Qur'an with selective quotations to give weights to his lame arguments is the only food he has to offer to his delusional state of mind.

Listen son, if anything your constant palava about Islam says a lot about your imaan and speaks volume above all your rants on Islamic religious ruling to which are not qualified to speak about.

Ps...Do a lot of istighfar and concentrate on your conduct as a muslim.
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