The grammar of Af Somaali

[Cumar-Labasuul]

guys I don't think it means the gun literally hanging off the ears; when a gun is perched on the shoulders kinda like the guards at the palace the tip of the gun is close to the ears, also it is 'dhegta' as in ears not 'degta' (which I don't think means shoulder )

[ciyaal_warta]

Ciyaal af Somali grammar kiisa hadaa ii sharaxi kartid, galaaskaaga waan isku qoraa. Lakiin ma ii sharaxi kartid marka is yeel yeelka naga daa nooh.

waxaas biyo camal aan u qurqurinaay wa lagu sharaxaaa haka welweling fiiri class kee rabta mid ki maalinti oo hyper iyo dhalinyaro badan mise kan habeenki oo gabdho badan dhigtaan ??

[BlackVelvet]

Yeah Cumar, shoulder is garab innit?

Ciyaal af Somali grammar kiisa hadaa ii sharaxi kartid, galaaskaaga waan isku qoraa. Lakiin ma ii sharaxi kartid marka is yeel yeelka naga daa nooh.

waxaas biyo camal aan u qurqurinaay wa lagu sharaxaaa haka welweling fiiri class kee rabta mid ki maalinti oo hyper iyo dhalinyaro badan mise kan habeenki oo gabdho badan dhigtaan ??

Saqajaan waaxid waan iska ogaay in sheekada shaxaarinimo darteed u wadid

[ciyaal_warta]

Yeah Cumar, shoulder is garab innit?

Ciyaal af Somali grammar kiisa hadaa ii sharaxi kartid, galaaskaaga waan isku qoraa. Lakiin ma ii sharaxi kartid marka is yeel yeelka naga daa nooh.

waxaas biyo camal aan u qurqurinaay wa lagu sharaxaaa haka welweling fiiri class kee rabta mid ki maalinti oo hyper iyo dhalinyaro badan mise kan habeenki oo gabdho badan dhigtaan ??

Saqajaan waaxid waan iska ogaay in sheekada shaxaarinimo darteed u wadid

bisinka adigaa shaxaari ah ani waxaas kama wadin imbaay is deji..gabdhaha ayagaa class habeenki doortay nooh..hadii rabin kan maalinti aan kugu qoraa


Cumar

qoriga dhegta i suran can be a sarbeeb used as :am ready

[DisplacedDiraac]

I dont get it..

I know Arabic nouns have genders (feminine/masculine).. But I still fail to see how Somali nouns have it..

[ciyaal_warta]

I dont get it..

I know Arabic nouns have genders (feminine/masculine).. But I still fail to see how Somali nouns have it..

we have it in somali too example

she went : way baxday
he went : wuu baxay

[fatimazahra]

It hit me a few weeks ago that in af Somali nouns have gender. In all my years it never once occurred to me.

Waan is raaceynaa - Can you take this sentence and analyse the grammar of it?

It translates

We will go together - We; pronoun in first person plural, will; modal verb, go; verb, together; adverb

Tutaenda pamoja - Tu; plural, ta; future, enda; to go verb, pamoja; together, adverb as above


Kiswahili peeps, you remember learning about verbs and "kufanya" - kufanya, kufanyiwa, kufanyana, kufanyafanya ( still makes me laugh)

Ngeli ya ki-vi

[IRONm@N]

You didn't even used a gender noun in that sentence.
that was more like a pronoun sentence.

gender is more like
socotaa----she walks
socdaa --he walks

also english says Ladies and Gentlemans = Haween iyo Mudanayaal, whereas Somalis says Mudane and Marwooyin = Madams and Gentleman, somali have more respect for women.

[SultanOrder]

I dont get it..

I know Arabic nouns have genders (feminine/masculine).. But I still fail to see how Somali nouns have it..

we have it in somali too example

she went : way baxday
he went : wuu baxay

Those are verbs bro.

Noun is place, person, name, or thing

[SultanOrder]

It hit me a few weeks ago that in af Somali nouns have gender. In all my years it never once occurred to me.

Waan is raaceynaa - Can you take this sentence and analyse the grammar of it?

It translates

We will go together - We; pronoun in first person plural, will; modal verb, go; verb, together; adverb

I think your somali sentence is grammatically incorrect
Waan is "I" you probably meant to write Waa

Correct form would of been
Waynu is wada raceynaa - Present Progressive- Waynu; mood classifier We(inclusive), is; oneself, wada; with preposition, racaynaa; to go together verb

[SultanOrder]

Nouns do have gender some are clear and some are not so clear. Nin is masculine while naag is feminine. For example you would say "Naag baa keenaysa" A woman will bring it, which clearly shows that Naag (woman) a noun sets the stage for the rest of the sentence, which proves that naag is feminine and therefore you need a feminine form of the verb "keen". A masculine noun nin would go like "Nin baa keenayo", the verb "keen" in this instance is masculine form which shows that Nin is a masculine noun.

[BlackVelvet]

People I know there is no gender or nouns in my sentence, they were 2 seperate issues; Af Somaali having gender nouns and me not being able to figure out the grammar in that sentence.

It hit me a few weeks ago that in af Somali nouns have gender. In all my years it never once occurred to me.

Waan is raaceynaa - Can you take this sentence and analyse the grammar of it?

It translates

We will go together - We; pronoun in first person plural, will; modal verb, go; verb, together; adverb

Tutaenda pamoja - Tu; plural, ta; future, enda; to go verb, pamoja; together, adverb as above


Kiswahili peeps, you remember learning about verbs and "kufanya" - kufanya, kufanyiwa, kufanyana, kufanyafanya ( still makes me laugh)

Ngeli ya ki-vi

smh you need to go back to you Kiswahili class. Ngeli is for nouns what I wrote were verbs

[BlackVelvet]

It hit me a few weeks ago that in af Somali nouns have gender. In all my years it never once occurred to me.

Waan is raaceynaa - Can you take this sentence and analyse the grammar of it?

It translates

We will go together - We; pronoun in first person plural, will; modal verb, go; verb, together; adverb

I think your somali sentence is grammatically incorrect
Waan is "I" you probably meant to write Waa

Correct form would of been
Waynu is wada raceynaa - Present Progressive- Waynu; mood classifier We(inclusive), is; oneself, wada; with preposition, racaynaa; to go together verb

This is what I have been waiting for someone to do all this time. Waynu, I would never use that word but your sentence makes sense.

[BlackVelvet]

Feminine nouns:

Qaado/macalgo - Qaadada/macalgada wey cusubatahay
Jaakad - Jaakada wey qurux badan tahay
Kab - Kabta wey luntey/dhuntey

Also, sariir, shanlo, biyo, tin, lacag, ...

Masculine nouns:

Baabuur/gaari - Baaburka/gaariga wuu cusubyahay
Sarwaal - Sarwaalka wuu qurux baddan yahay
Qalin - Qalinka wuu lumey/dhumey

Also, san, af, madax, kursi, ....



See what I mean? The day to day nouns we all use. WestLdn I guess this is what it means for a language to be your mother-tongue. You know it and you don't even know how

[Skippa]

The sentence I gave; Waa is the pronoun and raaceynaa is "raac" which is the verb and other stuff but what is "is"?

"Is" emphasizes on the togetherness of the going. The sentence without the "is" has a whole different meaning "Waan raacaynaa" (we are going with) whereas waan is raacaynaa means we are going with each other (or together)...the opposite of "is" would be "kala"...you can check words like "isku mid" (two or more things that are altogether the same) or "kala mid" (the opposite)

I should add that another way to look at it would be that the "is" also defines the self...waan "is" nacay...waan is qoray...etc...so if we go back to your sentence, it can be looked at as..."our - selves are going with each other"...