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atom from Jubada Hoose asking cafiis to come back to pland

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Maalmihii la soo dhaafey waxaa soo shaacbaxayey warar sheegaya in wadahadal uga bilowdey buuraha deegaanka Galgala kooxda uu hoggaamiyo Maxamed Siciid Attam ee ku sugneyd buuraleyda Golis iyo maamulka Puntland,kuwaas oo horey dagaalo ugu dhex mareen deegaanadaa: Toga Sugurre, Galgala iyo Madarshoon.

Warar aan si rasmi ah loo shaacin ayaa sheegaya in wadahadalku uu uu yahay mid bilow ah isla markaana ku bilowdey si isfaham ah, kadib markii maamulka Puntland uu ka soo debcay mawqifkiisi hore isla markaana ugu baaqey dhawr jeer malayshiyaadkaas in ay dadkooda ka soo mid noqdaan cafisna loo fidinaayo.

Wararku waxay ssheegayaan in Maxamed Siciid Attam aanu qayb ka ahayn wadahadalka, waxaana uu ku sugan yahay Jubada Hoose, laakiin wadahadal ay qayb ka yihiin saraakiishiisa sarsare ee dagaalka wax ka wadey.

Kooxda Attam ayaa shuruudo dhawr ah ku xirey in ay isaga soo baxaan buuraha, waxaana kamid aha ahayd, in maxaabiista loo siidaayo
in Maxkmadda denbiyada culus ee dhawaan la sameeyey la tir-tiro, iyo shuroodo kale, taas oo lagu soo waramayo in maamulka Puntland ogolaadey.

Si kastaba ha ahaatee heshiiskan oo aan ahayn mid labada dhinacba ay si toos ah uga hadleen ayaa u muuqda haddii uu hirgalo mid wax weyn ka bedeli kara amniga Puntland, maadaama maamulka Puntland qaraxyada iyo dilalka qorsheysan ay ku eedayn jireen Kooxda Attam, iyada oo maamulku sheegay in ay yihiin koox xiriir la leh Xarakada al-Shabaab.

Dhanka kale waxaan caddeyn haddii ugu danbeynta heshiis la gaaro sida uu ku fulaayo maadaama ninkii kooxdan asaasey uu ka maqan yahay goobta.

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actually he probably got something valuable instead of fighting, your headline makes it seem like he begged to be accepted into puntland or something. Dont forget it was faroole who asked him first and then he got the finger from atam. Then he asked him twice and negotiated like men should do, and only then they both agreed.


Its about the oil exploration. Atam has been putting a halt to puntlands agreement with the oil company, and they got impatient. So the only way to for faroole to stop this guerilla was to give atam amnesty and something on the side.

Eiyther way it was only yesterday soldiers heads was rolling on the ground in pland.
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Coeus wrote:actually he probably got something valuable instead of fighting, your headline makes it seem like he begged to be accepted into puntland or something. Dont forget it was faroole who asked him first and then he got the finger from atam. Then he asked him twice and negotiated like men should do, and only then they both agreed.

Its about the oil exploration. Atam has been putting a halt to puntlands agreement with the oil company, and they got impatient. So the only way to for faroole to stop this guerilla was to give atam amnesty and something on the side.

Eiyther way it was only yesterday soldiers heads was rolling on the ground in pland.
got a finger kolaha if that right then explain why he hiding in the far hideout in all somalia ( jubda hoose - kismaiyo ) kkkkkkkk

atom want peace thats why he give his Authorization to his sub clan in sanaag to start the negotiation inside sanaag , after that faroole had speech in the elected new puntland election for puntland presdiental 2012 ceremony he said "we will give any person want peace and cafiis if he stop what he doing ( he was mention atom him self)" , when the first meeting between government and atom Representative finish successful in sanaag , puntland accept the 3 condition that atom wanted and non of them was about oil ...!!!

today puntland gives signs for atom condition example of it terrorist Court should be closed and give cafiis to all atom gang even atom himself

puntland asked 1 condition from atom gang is to deliver non puntlander to the authority so puntland waiting if that happen so the file officially will close
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dude your funny. Here is his statement only 6 days ago




Atam’s Militia Rejects Amnesty Offer


A spokesman for Sheikh Mohamed Said Atam, whose militia is battling Puntland forces in the mountainous Galgala region, on Tuesday rejected a call for peace talks and vowed new attacks.

“The Galgala Mujahideen are planning new offensives against Puntland; we want to respond to the speech (of President Farole) and the propaganda of some Puntland security officials who said dozens of Galgala Mujahideen have signed agreements with their administration,” Kaarshe Usman Mohamed told Somalia Report.

“We will never stop our efforts to introduce Sharia law; the vision of the Galgala Mujahideen is to eliminate Puntland’s power and call to Jihad all Muslims in the region.”

Puntland officials accuse Atam of being linked with militant Islamist group al-Shabaab, a claim he and his spokesman deny. Somalia Report has received information from militants that al-Shabaab fighters were deployed to Bari region earlier this year, but Kaarshe said these reports were false.

In May, Sheikh Atam’s militia took control of Galgala, 35 km south of the port city of Bosaso, after fierce fighting with Puntland forces that claimed at least ten lives.

New Security Minister

Meanwhile, President Farole appointed Colonel Khalif Isse Mudan, a former officer in the Somali air force under ousted military dictator Mohamed Siad Barre, to succeed to be the General Yusuf Ahmed Khayr as security minister.

The new Minister Col Khalif Isse Mudan was among leading officers of the Somali air force in the late regime of Siad Barre.

The presidential decree said that a new man was needed to improve security, although critics say changing the man at the top will be useless unless Atam can be tackled.
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Coeus wrote:Its about the oil exploration. Atam has been putting a halt to puntlands agreement with the oil company
Oil isn't being explored anywhere near Galgala. Galgala was important for 2 reasons - to secure the roads all around Bosaso and to secure the rich minerals west of Bosaso in the hills.
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Monk-of-Mogadishu wrote:
Coeus wrote:Its about the oil exploration. Atam has been putting a halt to puntlands agreement with the oil company
Oil isn't being explored anywhere near Galgala. Galgala was important for 2 reasons - to secure the roads all around Bosaso and to secure the rich minerals west of Bosaso in the hills.
Im sorry i meant mineral.
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atom speaker in cariigabo so we understand why he afraid because we know who behind him and pushing him , plus are you want puntland too kill its citizen and not accepting any peace from atom side ...!!!

just hear minster of internal talk about regarding the peace asked by atom

http://www.garoweonline.com/artman2/pub ... aala.shtml
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FBISOMALIA wrote:Coeus

atom speaker in cariigabo so we understand why he afraid because we know who behind him and pushing him , plus are you want puntland too kill its citizen and not accepting any peace from atom side ...!!!

just hear minster of internal talk about regarding the peace asked by atom

http://www.garoweonline.com/artman2/pub ... aala.shtml
Yes there is a peace deal going on. Im not denying that. What i am saying is dont make it sound as he gave up first. It was faroole that screamign all these months he is al qaida and al shabab and now she gives atam amnesty. That is what i wanted to explain.
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Coeus wrote:
FBISOMALIA wrote:Coeus

atom speaker in cariigabo so we understand why he afraid because we know who behind him and pushing him , plus are you want puntland too kill its citizen and not accepting any peace from atom side ...!!!

just hear minster of internal talk about regarding the peace asked by atom

http://www.garoweonline.com/artman2/pub ... aala.shtml
Yes there is a peace deal going on. Im not denying that. What i am saying is dont make it sound as he gave up first. It was faroole that screamign all these months he is al qaida and al shabab and now she gives atam amnesty. That is what i wanted to explain.
in last war who declare winner of galgala battle ...????

faroole or atom
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Coeus wrote:
FBISOMALIA wrote:Coeus

atom speaker in cariigabo so we understand why he afraid because we know who behind him and pushing him , plus are you want puntland too kill its citizen and not accepting any peace from atom side ...!!!

just hear minster of internal talk about regarding the peace asked by atom

http://www.garoweonline.com/artman2/pub ... aala.shtml
Yes there is a peace deal going on. Im not denying that. What i am saying is dont make it sound as he gave up first. It was faroole that screamign all these months he is al qaida and al shabab and now she gives atam amnesty. That is what i wanted to explain.
the amnesty was not just about atam, but his militia and supporters. faroole offered them amnesty not because he thought the pl forces could not defeat them ( if that were the case, atam and co. would have taken over pl already), but for the betterment of the state. if you see that as a defeat of some sort than that shows why puntland is different from the rest of somalia. if southern somalia took the same route that faroole did, perhaps we would have a government today.

fyi, atam IS affiliated with shabaab. he has said this himself and the u.n. has proof of this connection as well. i'm sure you already know that shabaab has sworn allegiance to al-qaeda so if faroole says that atam is a shabaabist and al-qaeda agent, he isn't lying.
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gemini_snake wrote:
Coeus wrote:
FBISOMALIA wrote:Coeus

atom speaker in cariigabo so we understand why he afraid because we know who behind him and pushing him , plus are you want puntland too kill its citizen and not accepting any peace from atom side ...!!!

just hear minster of internal talk about regarding the peace asked by atom

http://www.garoweonline.com/artman2/pub ... aala.shtml
Yes there is a peace deal going on. Im not denying that. What i am saying is dont make it sound as he gave up first. It was faroole that screamign all these months he is al qaida and al shabab and now she gives atam amnesty. That is what i wanted to explain.
the amnesty was not just about atam, but his militia and supporters. faroole offered them amnesty not because he thought the pl forces could not defeat them ( if that were the case, atam and co. would have taken over pl already), but for the betterment of the state. if you see that as a defeat of some sort than that shows why puntland is different from the rest of somalia. if southern somalia took the same route that faroole did, perhaps we would have a government today.

fyi, atam IS affiliated with shabaab. he has said this himself and the u.n. has proof of this connection as well. i'm sure you already know that shabaab has sworn allegiance to al-qaeda so if faroole says that atam is a shabaabist and al-qaeda agent, he isn't lying.
First i never said that i believed atam could defeat puntland, its the otherway around. They couldnt defeat Atam.
Secondly Atam himself has never said that he is affiliated with Al shabab. Please find me one source not from Pland or sland, who says atam has admitted he works with Al shabab. That was only words from Faroole and his cabinet.

Here he is himself saying that he has nothing to do with Al shabab






Atam Denies Al-Shabaab Links



Mohamed Said Atam, whose militia is battling Puntland security forces in the mountainous area of Galgala, has denied he has any links with militant Islamist group al-Shabaab and said he has not been involved in a series of killings in Bosaso and Galkayo.

“Those saying we have links with al-Shabaab have closer ties with al-Shabaab than us,” he said in a broadcast speech, adding that rumored links with Eritrea, often accused of providing the insurgent group with arms and money, were also non-existent.

Puntland has accused al-Shabaab, through Atam, of trying to destabilize the semi-autonomous state through a spate of assassinations of public figures and businessmen, but the militia leader denied this.




Militia Leader Says Puntland Conflict Over Resources



“These actions started before our revolt and it is clan-based conflict,” he said. “We are not against peace with Puntland, we are protecting our own territories ... and our resources.

“They wish us flee from our settlements so they can exploit our resources; that was the root cause of the conflict ... we are available to negotiate,” he added.

Dozens have been killed in fighting in Galgala in recent days, and Atam says he is currently in full control of the region.

Residents in Suqur, 20 kilometers east of Bosaso, said that heavily armed pro-Atam forces set up in the settlement early Tuesday, and are worried that Puntland authorities are planning an attack to dislodge these troops.

"We heard more troops from Puntland are going to attack the settlement ... we are tense and you see militia all around the streets," one resident told Somalia Report.

Puntland security officials refused to discuss specific operations, but said plans were afoot to attack Atam's positions.

Sources close to al-Shabaab also told Somalia Report that around 200 of its fighters were backing Atam, with the remit of killing Puntland officials.

Another murder

Meanwhile a third businessman - Abdinur Salad - was assassinated in Bosaso overnight Monday, following on from two killings over the weekend.

“We heard gunshots just a few minutes after we came out from the mosque ... and outside we saw the businessman dead,” Khalif Abdi, a resident in Bosaso, told Somalia Report.

Residents in Galkayo and Bosaso are worried about the increasing insecurity, blaming the Puntland Authorities for not doing enough to tackle the problem.

“The security situation is worsening and there is concern about who is behind the killing of the politicians, elders and Islamic scholars,” Mohamed Yasin, an intellectual and peace activist, told Somalia Report.

By MOHAMED SHIIL, AK 05/17/2011
Puntland Military Headquarters
©Somalia Report



It is rather sad that Puntland authoraties are so addicted to this hunt for resources, that they themselves were creating disrupt through greed. According to Atam, he has been open for peace and negotiation all the time. It is Pland that FINALLY reliased that trough force you cannot dominate civilians and exploit their land for profit purposes.
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in last war who declare winner of galgala battle ...????

faroole or atom
It doesnt matter wich sides who wins the war, if one side is still terrorising the state through beheading civilians and soldiers. Atam does not have a army, he has a militia and is a guerilla fighter, thus he doesnt fight a confrontiation battle with Pl Soldiers. This was why Faroole deemed it might be easier and better for him to just deal with Atam through negotiation like Atam was saying all the time.
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Coues, saying Puntland couldn't/cant defeat atom and his gang is ridiculous, especially when they have done so twice. Puntland holding the peace talk is not done out of fear, it will bring peace and stability for the people living in galaga area.
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CismanMaxamud1 wrote:Coues, saying Puntland couldn't/cant defeat atom and his gang is ridiculous, especially when they have done so twice. Puntland holding the peace talk is not done out of fear, it will bring peace and stability for the people living in galaga area.
Facts say otherwise. Plus i never denied that atam has been severely damaged by Pl attacks before.
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who cares who won what battle all that should matter is the peace deal, :clap: :up:
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