Should Somali Atheist be allowed to return

[Alchemist]

Alchemist: Here's a question. Say a group of Somalis convert to Christianity, and from this line of apostasy, you have 3-4 generations of Christian Somalis. Are they considered Ahlu-Kitaab? Or are they still considered apostates?

Also, can the leader execute an apostate, even if this apostasy occurred decades ago in a land far removed from the area he controls?

If your born into it than you havent really converted and by born into it i mean raised with it... At one point all people were one religion right..

As for the the second part bro as long as his gaalnimo is known i dont see why the rule doesnt apply.. If it was okay people can just move to another country become gaal, live there for couple of years and return home with their gaalnimo..

[Samatr]

I don't understand why people are so intolerant of atheists but can put up with warlords, gadheerayaal and corrupt politicians; hypocrisy at it's finest.

[Beenaale_No1]

I don't understand why people are so intolerant of atheists but can put up with warlords, gadheerayaal and corrupt politicians; hypocrisy at it's finest.

Absolutely.

Its like the other week when I mentioned Somalis laid back attitude towards lying, scamming the government, evading taxes etc. They are somehow OK with that, but gabadh jeans qabto wey dhibayaan

[Samatr]

Benaale

That sort of mentality is part of what is destroying our country.

[mcali]

No matter how much you guys criticize somalis for lying being warlords and etc. at the end of the day they are muslim and follow the religion of islam and can be forgiven. Most of us have christans, jews,budhists ,atheists and shaydaan worshippers living next door and live peacfully. But when our homeland is infiltrated by our own kind who are gaalo they will bring the diin with them. It will only handicap somalis more because we have our fair share of problems but if they add to it then we will really be lost. Diin la'aan waa nolol la'aan Period

[Niya]

Yes, they are Somali and have every right to live in Somalia!

[Beenaale_No1]

No matter how much you guys criticize somalis for lying being warlords and etc. at the end of the day they are muslim and follow the religion of islam and can be forgiven. Most of us have christans, jews,budhists ,atheists and shaydaan worshippers living next door and live peacfully. But when our homeland is infiltrated by our own kind who are gaalo they will bring the diin with them. It will only handicap somalis more because we have our fair share of problems but if they add to it then we will really be lost. Diin la'aan waa nolol la'aan Period

So what do you propose? Ban them from their own country?

As I said before, the only other 2 nations who have 100% Muslim demographic are Saudi Arabia and Mauritania. Every single country int he world have multi-religions nations. Countries like Malaysia, Indonesia, Turkey, Egypt etc. have gallo inhabits and they are not killing each other.

Every Muslim country have gaalo living amongst them. Bar the 2 nations Ive mentioned + Somalia.

[Samatr]

No matter how much you guys criticize somalis for lying being warlords and etc. at the end of the day they are muslim and follow the religion of islam and can be forgiven. Most of us have christans, jews,budhists ,atheists and shaydaan worshippers living next door and live peacfully. But when our homeland is infiltrated by our own kind who are gaalo they will bring the diin with them. It will only handicap somalis more because we have our fair share of problems but if they add to it then we will really be lost. Diin la'aan waa nolol la'aan Period

waryaa you haven't woken up from the fairy tales your parents told you.
were living in the west because of Somalis (Muslims) who couldn't get along or share power amongst themselves peacefully.
thats why somalia will be hard to fix, you have people thinking they can forgive warlords because they are Muslim and on the other hand they don't want an atheist/christian living on Somali soil?

[Advo]

Yes, I hope they return one day sidaan u dhagaxeeyno

[DisplacedDiraac]

We have no right to stop a certain group of people from entering/living in their 'own' country.. Just because we're Muslim doesn't mean we have more rights than them over Somalia..

What I dont understand is.. Since the Somali culture is basically Islam.. Do Somali atheists/Chrisitains change their culture too.. ..

[Beenaale_No1]

What I dont understand is.. Since the Somali culture is basically Islam.. Do Somali atheists/Chrisitains change their culture too.. ..
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I met Somali [Djiboutians] Christians in Ethiopia a few years ago and they still had Muslim names [Yasin, Omar etc.]

[melo]

Alchemist: Here's a question. Say a group of Somalis convert to Christianity, and from this line of apostasy, you have 3-4 generations of Christian Somalis. Are they considered Ahlu-Kitaab? Or are they still considered apostates?

Also, can the leader execute an apostate, even if this apostasy occurred decades ago in a land far removed from the area he controls?

If your born into it than you havent really converted and by born into it i mean raised with it... At one point all people were one religion right..

As for the the second part bro as long as his gaalnimo is known i dont see why the rule doesnt apply.. If it was okay people can just move to another country become gaal, live there for couple of years and return home with their gaalnimo..

Thanks for the clarification

[mcali]

No matter how much you guys criticize somalis for lying being warlords and etc. at the end of the day they are muslim and follow the religion of islam and can be forgiven. Most of us have christans, jews,budhists ,atheists and shaydaan worshippers living next door and live peacfully. But when our homeland is infiltrated by our own kind who are gaalo they will bring the diin with them. It will only handicap somalis more because we have our fair share of problems but if they add to it then we will really be lost. Diin la'aan waa nolol la'aan Period

waryaa you haven't woken up from the fairy tales your parents told you.
were living in the west because of Somalis (Muslims) who couldn't get along or share power amongst themselves peacefully.
thats why somalia will be hard to fix, you have people thinking they can forgive warlords because they are Muslim and on the other hand they don't want an atheist/christian living on Somali soil?

sxb i am wide awake. you know my friend all things change with time. For example Somalia could in the next twenty years be a peaceful place where there is understanding between tribes and what not. Or i could be like qurbahan aanu joogno. More than fifty percent of the Somali people are disgusting here. The guys are fake thugs and every once in a while you will see a real one the girls are hoes or hoes in training. Some of us are bad and some of us are good. Lets just not take that mess back home, a place where my little cousin dosnt know what porn is or a place where alcohol i know of but almost never used. Then again you might like this sort of thing so yeah....

[DisplacedDiraac]

What I dont understand is.. Since the Somali culture is basically Islam.. Do Somali atheists/Chrisitains change their culture too.. ..
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I met Somali [Djiboutians] Christians in Ethiopia a few years ago and they still had Muslim names [Yasin, Omar etc.]

Maybe they kept the names their parents gave them..
How was their lifestyle/culture like?

[Beenaale_No1]

What I dont understand is.. Since the Somali culture is basically Islam.. Do Somali atheists/Chrisitains change their culture too.. ..
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I met Somali [Djiboutians] Christians in Ethiopia a few years ago and they still had Muslim names [Yasin, Omar etc.]

Maybe they kept the names their parents gave them..
How was their lifestyle/culture like?

They behaved just like any other Somali. They chewed occasionally, cracked Somali jokes, had typical Somali behaviour traits etc. They also used terminologies like "Insha Allah" and "war Ilaahi ka cabso" etc. They still had dhaqan Somali.

If they didnt tell me they were Christians, I wouldn't have known. They looked and behaved just like the next Somali person.