Multiethnic Somalia Bantus not going anywhere

[Alchemist]

The reason why i came to this conclusion is simple. For Somalia to develop they will need to open up is borders to everyone and there is nothing wrong with that. You have Kenyan teachers teaching in mogadishu university right now and there is a war going on. Oromos are in the north working. Somalia is no different than any other country.

Dude your making out that Somalia never had foreign settlers. We had Italians, Russians, Americans, Indians, Pakistanis, Amharas, Swahilis, Chinese living in Somalia before the civil war. So its cool. Its no big deal!

True but the world wasnt one global village back then. We had foreigners i know, my neighbors were these Italian couple. But now a days is much more. your right though is not a big deal

[Beenaale_No1]

Coeus

Why do you hate liberalism?

If it wasn't for Swedish Liberalism your ass wouldn't even enter Sweden.

[Coeus]

Seriusly though. Why should foreigners enjoy economic prosperity before our own people do it? Was Japan allowing foreign companies in their Country when it was shattered in world war 2? Was korea promoting neo liberal thinking when they were a shithole after the korean war? Was China allowing foreign companies to use their situation when the Country aimed for rapid development?

No.

Somalia will be a No Go area for foreigners seeking bussines opportunities, foreign companies & Foreign goverments who want to directly buy Important resouces that is deemed more important for OUR goverment then temporary short term profit.


This is our future, and NO FOREIGNERS!

Mineral industry (Including carving the minerals before Exporting it+ using it for internal consumption)

Oil industry (Exporting Oil to consumers)

Camel industry (milk,Meat &medecine)

Livestock Industry (Meat procesing,hide producing, livestock exporting)

Indigenous pharmaceutical industry (myrrh,camel urine and camel milk have cancer and other sickness preventing effects)

Agricultural Industry (6 million hektar arable land in the south, capable of producing food,fruits and keeping the country self sufficient in food supplies+ exporting the surplus)

Fish industry (Africa´s longest coastline filled with all kinds of sea creatures, can be used for producing of high nutritous supplements, tuna fish factories and exporting to predominantly East asian markets with high demand)

Uranium reserves (Possibility of Somalia using nuclear power for energy consumption and exporting electricity to Djibouti)

Trade industry ( Exporting of goods through our port for mainly the landlocked nation Ethiopia but also for South sudan, this can be down with lower taxes then our neighbours and better port facilities.)


Other Industries that the future Somali goverment can focus on are:




Ship building Industry

Consumers: African Nations who necessarily dont have the Economic means to buy Foreign made naval vessels for their own security (protection of pirates or illegal european fish trawlers) and economic ( shipping or receiving their goods by themselves without the interference of foreign countries) use.

Internal use: Ship building for establishing our own Navy and improving our cababilities of shipping and receiving goods through our own manpower stationed in the somali made ships.


Iron & Steel Industry
The steel industry is the foundation of many other potential Somali export industries, and is thus vital to be established.

Internal Use: The steel and Iron will be used widely in the construction of roads, railways, other infrastructure, appliances, and buildings. Most large modern structures, such as stadiums and skyscrapers, bridges, and airports, are supported by a steel skeleton. So this will be mainly for internal use,

Exporting: This industry has potential for exporting in Africa, because of the lack of infrastructure in Africa compared to the rest of the world.

Small arms Industry:
The common understanding Somali people have is that lack of production of arms internally have made us vulnerable externally. i think nobody would argue with me here when i say that Somalis lost the Ogaden war, because of the Western powers decision of halting military aid. And thus our whole world came down because of our lack of modernasation.

Internal use: Small arms is a realistic first step for SOmalis, we should not think of producing or being capable of producing tanks and jets, but we should undertsand that all nations had to take the first small step first. Small arms would be good to use for our police force across the nation and for our foot soldeirs as part of their military gear.

Exporting:
Supplying liberation groups that collide with our interest should be supported by small arms. The exporting however will be done to other small African nations who receive little military aid, such as benin,senegal etc. Our prices will be of course be lower then the market price initally.

Thats all good but the honest truth is, this wont be up to me and you but will be up to those in power. No matter how long it takes foreign business will arrive. We can try to limit their powers but we cant totally stop them. Is just the way the world works now a days.

Saaxib i will hunt foreigners down myself, you can call me a Somali racist but this is what i believe.

Indians and Whites basicly own the Bantu world.
North African countries always become middle income countries (AT BEST) or else they become some shithole with natural resources but with no real development.

I refuse to accept Indian & Arab businessmen taking over the economy while 13% of Somalia's Population can read. Im sorry but thats suicide. Our economy will develop with OUR PEOPLE on board the ship, not with FOREIGN elites controlling Agriculture,shipping & Business.

We are not Ethiopia. We are Somalis and in this World we either perish and be forgotten by history, or we become Africa's most powerful Nation and demonstrate Somali determination for succes. Just as the East asian & Scandinavian countries have.

That is my take on it

[Coeus]

Coeus

Why do you hate liberalism?

If it wasn't for Swedish Liberalism your ass wouldn't even enter Sweden.

Who cares what Sweden does, i dont care about who brought me here. My beliefs are more important.

[Alchemist]

Coeus I support your stance walahi. I see how Kenyans are mistreated by Indians everyday and is shocking. I just stated the obvious.

Now only if you had a more islamic view point i would vote you as president i mean khilifa but that is another topic all together.

[Beenaale_No1]

Saaxib i will hunt foreigners down myself, you can call me a Somali racist but this is what i believe.

Indians and Whites basicly own the Bantu world.
North African countries always become middle income countries (AT BEST) or else they become some shithole with natural resources but with no real development.

I refuse to accept Indian & Arab businessmen taking over the economy while 13% of Somalia's Population can read. Im sorry but thats suicide. Our economy will develop with OUR PEOPLE on board the ship, not with FOREIGN elites controlling Agriculture,shipping & Business.

We are not Ethiopia. We are Somalis and in this World we either perish and be forgotten by history, or we become Africa's most powerful Nation and demonstrate Somali determination for succes. Just as the East asian & Scandinavian countries have.

That is my take on it

I support this.

I agree with your ideologies regarding how Somalia should move forward. But Im not as anti-foreigners as you are thou.

[Rabshoole]

The reason why i came to this conclusion is simple. For Somalia to develop they will need to open up is borders to everyone and there is nothing wrong with that. You have Kenyan teachers teaching in mogadishu university right now and there is a war going on. Oromos are in the north working. Somalia is no different than any other country.

Dude your making out that Somalia never had foreign settlers. We had Italians, Russians, Americans, Indians, Pakistanis, Amharas, Swahilis, Chinese living in Somalia before the civil war. So its cool. Its no big deal!

The country back then had just about every settlers you could think of, its nothing new to Somalia.

[XimanJaale]

Coeus, look at those Somali business people dominating Kenya, South Africa, Botswana etc.( The Indians are soo threaten that they pay africans to burn down Somali businesses) So even if foreigners settle in Somalia, they will never control our bussiness sector cause us Somalis are always first class in Business. The only thing we need from foreigners are resources like equiments that's all, we can use our own people as workers to end unemployment. Trust me, foreigners are NO threat to our business. So let them settle in our country, let's not be xenophobic and ungrateful. Do you know how many Somalis are around the world getting refuge in different countries.

[Coeus]

Coeus I support your stance walahi. I see how Kenyans are mistreated by Indians everyday and is shocking. I just stated the obvious.

Now only if you had a more islamic view point i would vote you as president i mean khilifa but that is another topic all together.

Here is my take on religious domination in Somali society. I responded on another thread 2 days ago.

My opinion is that living in a secular environment gives muslims the choice of living as a mukmin on their own accord and choice, which by the way, is a great gift to humans by Allah.

Isn't this the real quest (jihad) and challenge for all muslims?

Ulamas & Sheikhs, when given political mandate, tend to blind us with their dogma. So-called religious laws implemented are one-sided and without recourse or challenge. Religious scriptures are distorted or literally interpreted for total political control.

Transparency would be non-existent, nepotism would be rife, human rights would be worse that what it already is; in other words, a recipe for disaster for all Somalis.

Ulamas & Sheikhs have a place in society, but not to govern in political matters.

Our country needs democratically elected, passionate and intelligent law makers, of laws that apply equally to all.

Muslims don't need a Sharia court that totaly disregards basic human rights, children's rights, women's rights, disabled persons rights. Name just one muslim country in the world where individual rights have not been severely violated by barbaric and literal interpretation and application of the "muslim" law?

Let Allah be the judge for spiritual transgressions, not the Shariah court. Let the secular courts judge us on secular and worldly issues.Secularism for me, secularism for my children, secularism for the future of all Somalis.

That is my stance on Sharia.

[Coeus]

Saaxib i will hunt foreigners down myself, you can call me a Somali racist but this is what i believe.

Indians and Whites basicly own the Bantu world.
North African countries always become middle income countries (AT BEST) or else they become some shithole with natural resources but with no real development.

I refuse to accept Indian & Arab businessmen taking over the economy while 13% of Somalia's Population can read. Im sorry but thats suicide. Our economy will develop with OUR PEOPLE on board the ship, not with FOREIGN elites controlling Agriculture,shipping & Business.

We are not Ethiopia. We are Somalis and in this World we either perish and be forgotten by history, or we become Africa's most powerful Nation and demonstrate Somali determination for succes. Just as the East asian & Scandinavian countries have.

That is my take on it

I support this.

I agree with your ideologies regarding how Somalia should move forward. But Im not as anti-foreigners as you are thou.

Im not anti foreigner, they can come and see our beutiful country. Im just against giving them more then they give Immigrants in their own Country.

If a foreigner wants to settle in Somalia, he/she must first learn the Somali language. And then take a language test. He/she must have a proven record of a crime free history. And he/she is obliged to know the Basic Somali laws & the Constitution. Then he/she can become a citizen. He/She will be forbidden from entering the Somali military, but will have the same obligations to uphold the law as Somali citizens. If he/she is found guilty of murder or any other henious crime, he/she will be deported.

[Coeus]

Coeus, look at those Somali business people dominating Kenya, South Africa, Botswana etc.( The Indians are soo threaten that they pay africans to burn down Somali businesses) So even if foreigners settle in Somalia, they will never control our bussiness sector cause us Somalis are always first class in Business. The only thing we need from foreigners are resources like equiments that's all, we can use our own people as workers to end unemployment. Trust me, foreigners are NO threat to our business. So let them settle in our country, let's not be xenophobic and ungrateful. Do you know how many Somalis are around the world getting refuge in different countries.

Saaxib india is bigger,richer &stronger then Somalia. they dont need my country so they should just leave it to me and my People.

[XimanJaale]

Coeus, look at those Somali business people dominating Kenya, South Africa, Botswana etc.( The Indians are soo threaten that they pay africans to burn down Somali businesses) So even if foreigners settle in Somalia, they will never control our bussiness sector cause us Somalis are always first class in Business. The only thing we need from foreigners are resources like equiments that's all, we can use our own people as workers to end unemployment. Trust me, foreigners are NO threat to our business. So let them settle in our country, let's not be xenophobic and ungrateful. Do you know how many Somalis are around the world getting refuge in different countries.

Saaxib india is bigger,richer &stronger then Somalia. they dont need my country so they should just leave it to me and my People.

Well they still allowed to settle and live in our country just like anyone from any country

[Coeus]

Coeus, look at those Somali business people dominating Kenya, South Africa, Botswana etc.( The Indians are soo threaten that they pay africans to burn down Somali businesses) So even if foreigners settle in Somalia, they will never control our bussiness sector cause us Somalis are always first class in Business. The only thing we need from foreigners are resources like equiments that's all, we can use our own people as workers to end unemployment. Trust me, foreigners are NO threat to our business. So let them settle in our country, let's not be xenophobic and ungrateful. Do you know how many Somalis are around the world getting refuge in different countries.

Saaxib india is bigger,richer &stronger then Somalia. they dont need my country so they should just leave it to me and my People.

Well they still allowed to settle and live in our country just like anyone from any country

Yes after 50 years minimum.

[Mckuus]

Bantus dont add any diversity, they dress like the Somalis and copy their culture, they have almost no culture of their own. Some of them are so desperate that they try to claim local sub-clans and lie about their real origins. IMO, Bantus should just go back to Malawi/Mozambique where their people live.

[XimanJaale]

Yes after 50 years minimum.