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Re: Anti al-Shabab folks must hate Shaykh Muhammad Muhaisany

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Israel shouldn't be controlling or having over-lordship over Al Aqsa to begin with Grant. Non-Muslim suzerainty over the Mosque is itself a cruel circumstance. By the way are you Jewish?

As for Somalia, the Sheikh prayed for the "mujaahiduun". He didn't say a group, I don't know how it could be construed as one group, namely the Shabaab, just because they have unilaterally tried to usurp ownership of the term in Somalia. A Sufi man who is only in the war to fight for his faith, his God, and his home is in my opinion a Mujahid as well as a man who is fighting against Shabaab because of what he truly sees as his defense of his faith, his God, and his home. It seems the prayer was a general prayer and is meant to ask God to help anyone in Somalia who is fighting for his faith, his God, and his home. Let's not try to put word in the Sheikh's mouth because I didn't hear him pray for a specific faction called Shabaab.
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Re: Anti al-Shabab folks must hate Shaykh Muhammad Muhaisany

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Voltage,

I am an inactive or "jack" Mormon.

The reality is that the Haram or Temple Mount is within the political boundaries of the state of Israel. To say the least, there is more than one view of this matter. Sovereignty is a separate issue, but control of the mosque has never left the Waqf. This is from the Wiki aritcle on the al Aqsa Mosque:

"Administration

The Waqf Ministry of Jordan held control of the al-Aqsa Mosque until the 1967 Six-Day War. After Israel's victory in that war, instead of the government taking control of the al-Aqsa Mosque, Israel transferred the control of the mosque and the northern Noble Sanctuary to the Islamic waqf trust, who are independent of the Israeli government. However, Israeli Security Forces are permitted to patrol and conduct searches within the perimeter of the mosque. After the 1969 arson attack, the waqf employed architects, technicians and craftsmen in a committee that carry out regular maintenance operations. The Islamic Movement in Israel and the waqf have attempted to increase Muslim control of the Temple Mount as a way of countering Israeli policies and the escalating presence of Israeli security forces around the site since the al-Aqsa Intifada. Some activities included refurbishing abandoned structures and renovating.[64]

Muhammad Ahmad Hussein is the head imam and manager of the al-Aqsa Mosque and was assigned the role of Grand Mufti of Jerusalem in 2006 by Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas.[65] Ownership of the al-Aqsa Mosque is a contentious issue in the Israel-Palestinian conflict. Israel claims sovereignty over the mosque along with all of the Temple Mount (Noble Sanctuary), but Palestinians hold the custodianship of the site through the Islamic waqf. During the negotiations at the 2000 Camp David Summit, Palestinians demanded complete ownership of the mosque and other Islamic holy sites in East Jerusalem.[66]
[edit] Access

Muslim residents of Israel and Palestinians living in East Jerusalem are normally allowed to enter and pray at the al-Aqsa Mosque without restrictions.[67] Israel occasionally prevents certain groups of Muslims from reaching al-Aqsa; the restrictions vary from time to time. At times restrictions have prevented all men under 50 and women under 45 from entering, but married men over 45 are allowed. Sometimes the restrictions are enforced on the occasion of Friday prayers,[68] other times they are over an extended period of time.[69][68][70] Restrictions are most severe for Gazans, followed by restrictions on those from West Bank. Israel states that the restrictions are in place for security reasons.[67]

Many rabbis, including Israel's chief rabbinate since 1967, have ruled that Jews should not walk on the Temple Mount due to the possibility of their stepping on the site of the Holy of Holies.[71] Israeli governmental restrictions only forbid Jewish prayer on the Temple Mount, but allow Jews as well as other non-Muslims to visit for certain hours on certain days in the week. Several rabbis and Zionist leaders have demanded the right of Jews to pray at the site on Jewish holidays.[72] Although the Israeli Supreme Court has supported individual (as opposed to group) prayer, in practice Israeli police bar a Jew from praying "in any overt manner whatsoever on the Temple Mount, even if he is just moving his lips in prayer."[73]
[edit] Excavations
Main article: Excavations at the Temple Mount

Several excavations at the Temple Mount took place following the 1967 War. In 1970, Israeli authorities commenced intensive excavations directly beneath the mosque on the southern and western sides. In 1977, digging continued and a large tunnel was opened below the women's prayer area and a new tunnel was dug under the mosque, going east to west, in 1979. In addition, the Archaeological Department of the Israeli Ministry of Religious Affairs dug a tunnel near the western portion of the mosque in 1984.[28] According to UNESCO's special envoy to Jerusalem Oleg Grabar, buildings and structures on the Temple Mount are deteriorating due mostly to disputes between the Israeli, Palestinian and Jordanian governments over who is actually responsible for the site.[74]

The Islamic Waqf, which has custodial rights over the Temple Mount and is responsible for overseeing any construction work there, built an emergency exit for the Marwani Mosque (Solomon's Stables) in 1999. The move raised concerns from the Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) that, due to the use of bulldozers by the Waqf, damage was being done to structures dating from the early Muslim period. A number of Israeli archaeologists, however, accused the Waqf of destroying building material dating from the First Temple Period in Jerusalem, while Ehud Olmert, the mayor of the city at that time, alleged that any construction on the Temple Mount without the supervision of Israeli authorities undermined Israel's claims to the religious complex. Adnan al-Husayni, then head of the Waqf, responded by stating "We never asked for permission from the occupation."[75]

In February 2007, the Department started to excavate a site for archaeological remains in a location where the government wanted to rebuild a collapsed pedestrian bridge. This site was 60 metres (197 ft) away from the mosque.[76] The excavations provoked anger throughout the Islamic world, and Israel was accused of trying to destroy the foundation of the mosque. Ismail Haniya—then Prime Minister of the Palestinian National Authority and Hamas leader—called on Palestinians to unite to protest the excavations, while Fatah said they would end their ceasefire with Israel.[77] Israel denied all charges against them, calling them "ludicrous."[78]
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Re: Anti al-Shabab folks must hate Shaykh Muhammad Muhaisany

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As long as walrus Ariel Sharon or any non-Muslim leader can at will enter Mosque grounds, it is a cruel circumstance. It is like a Muslim leader being the suzerain over the Vatican and bestowing some Christian vassal a limited amount of "supposed" self-rule as long as tribute is paid by recognizing the suzerainty over the land. The Waqf is the vassal and Israel is the suzerain which sounds even better than it is because Israel asks no permission and gives no permission about the Mosque . So I say again, as long as there is non-Muslim suzerainty over Al Aqsa, the circumstance itself is cruel.
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As for Somalia, the Sheikh prayed for the "mujaahiduun". He didn't say a group, I don't know how it could be construed as one group, namely the Shabaab, just because they have unilaterally tried to usurp ownership of the term in Somalia. A Sufi man who is only in the war to fight for his faith, his God, and his home is in my opinion a Mujahid as well as a man who is fighting against Shabaab because of what he truly sees as his defense of his faith, his God, and his home. It seems the prayer was a general prayer and is meant to ask God to help anyone in Somalia who is fighting for his faith, his God, and his home. Let's not try to put word in the Sheikh's mouth because I didn't hear him pray for a specific faction called Shabaab.

This is the only post in this entire thread that's worth a dime. Those jumping to guillotine the sheikh, ought to reconsider their position.
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By the way.. Mashallah, what an amazing duca. Ilaahay ha xifdiyo sheekha
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بَشِّرِ الْمُنَافِقِينَ بِأَنَّ لَهُمْ عَذَابًا أَلِيمًا

الَّذِينَ يَتَّخِذُونَ الْكَافِرِينَ أَوْلِيَاءَ مِن دُونِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ ۚ أَيَبْتَغُونَ عِندَهُمُ الْعِزَّةَ فَإِنَّ الْعِزَّةَ لِلَّهِ جَمِيعًا


Announce to the hypocrites that they shall have a painful chastisement:

Those who take the unbelievers for guardians rather than believers. Do they seek honor from them? Then surely all honor is for Allah


Read this verse, then browse over this thread, then re-read it. A lot of people will be exposed yet again......
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Voltage wrote:As long as walrus Ariel Sharon or any non-Muslim leader can at will enter Mosque grounds, it is a cruel circumstance. It is like a Muslim leader being the suzerain over the Vatican and bestowing some Christian vassal a limited amount of "supposed" self-rule as long as tribute is paid by recognizing the suzerainty over the land. The Waqf is the vassal and Israel is the suzerain which sounds even better than it is because Israel asks no permission and gives no permission about the Mosque . So I say again, as long as there is non-Muslim suzerainty over Al Aqsa, the circumstance itself is cruel.
Cruelty is a relative thing.

I can think of the Roman occupation and destruction of the Temple, the Muslim occupation of the Temple Mount, the Templar occupation of the mosque, etc. Read back through the history, just of it's construction. It was a joint effort, still containing Jewish and Christian, as well as Islamic elements.

The site is incredibly old. When Father Abram arrived, Melchizadek was already high priest there, and he paid a tithe.
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Aamin ya sheikh, you have spoken a heartfilled duca.
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DR-YALAXOOW wrote:[quote="AwdalPrinceThis fat saudi idiot whos screaming like rabies infected Dog needs to go mental hospital, i dont understand how Authorities allow someone like this to preach. obviously this man is insane. cursing ,screaming, crying. SHAME ON HIM. :down: :down: :down:
Mujaahideen kulahaa. I hope they cut his tongue off and feed it to the pigs. He wants Somalia to keep burning while he drinks mango juice and eats goat meat in Jeddah or whatever other city he lives in. He reads the news and is aware of how AlShabaab starved the Somalis to death by not allowing the aid agencies to bring in food. Let him cry and make Dua for Palestine.
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^^^ just wondering did u listen to his dua?
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I'm at work and can't view YouTube videos.
The OP said that the Sheik was making du'a for AlShabaab every night this month.
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melo wrote:
As for Somalia, the Sheikh prayed for the "mujaahiduun". He didn't say a group, I don't know how it could be construed as one group, namely the Shabaab, just because they have unilaterally tried to usurp ownership of the term in Somalia. A Sufi man who is only in the war to fight for his faith, his God, and his home is in my opinion a Mujahid as well as a man who is fighting against Shabaab because of what he truly sees as his defense of his faith, his God, and his home. It seems the prayer was a general prayer and is meant to ask God to help anyone in Somalia who is fighting for his faith, his God, and his home. Let's not try to put word in the Sheikh's mouth because I didn't hear him pray for a specific faction called Shabaab.

This is the only post in this entire thread that's worth a dime. Those jumping to guillotine the sheikh, ought to reconsider their position.

There are no mujaahidiin in somalia at this point of time.
Nor the murtaddiin, the puppetgovt and neither the amxaarserving suufis.
Some say amisom are mujaahideen, but that is also false.
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