What Are The Limits of Loyalty?

[WiglessBidaar]

My teaching coworker is sinning with a woman not his wife in ways that God forbids. The convention I know is to frown upon such things and wag a stern moralistic finger, but up which pretty hole, front or back, a man decides to insert his ladypoker I don't much care to know.

A thinker who once schooled me in the essence of liberty described Puritanism as “The haunting fear that someone, somewhere may be happy.” Point well taken.

If my philandering buddy’s wife comes to me for matrimonial news, I will shave some pounds off the truth. And if moral philosophy has taught me a thing in my long and hard years of trying to straighten the crooked timber of humanity it is that men should band together against the contamination of feminism. There is a reason why it is called universal brotherhood.

But a dilemma: The cheating donkey is neglecting his academic duties and hampering my work because others have got to pick up the slack. To many in the office this presents a happy excuse for outing him under cover of scholastic integrity. Fiddlesticks! When a brother is kind enough to share his semen with a sister I bless him, I kiss him, and when out of pocket I blackmail him without ever intending to flick on the lightswitch in the darkened room of his forbidden love.

The immoral code extending only to the boys of course. If I catch a Fatima necking anyone but the father of her ten children may the sweet Lord cut me down if I don’t sing.

But this son of a gun is gonna fail his students and, much worse, take up my free lunch hour on bright noondays when all the faculty is enriching the local wine bar with preparing his idiotic and (literally) sophomoric lectures on Veblen’s Neoclassical Theory of Macroeconomics.

For this I should lie?

[GeoDesic]

Why not pull him aside and tell him what you think should happen?

[Navy9]

Tell the truth, marc. It's the only way out!

[WiglessBidaar]

Geo,

You don't know how these players think. If I try to reason with him, he will counter that I've been out-Casanoved and that envy sends me running around screaming like a schoolgirl robbed of her play doll. Maybe. I know enough about human epistemology to understand that no man’s motives are as purely virtuous as he likes to think. Down where the heart carries on its one beat drum and the kidneys groan under the pressure of ten pints of Whiskey, far down below a man's higher cognitive apparatus from which consciousness is forbidden push and pull subtle and hidden impulses beyond his overt control.

Who will deny it?

But I like to imagine that I can spot the green eyed monster when I see it, and that having eyed his plain looking mistress I can do much better. I just want to knock back my glass of red in the lazy afternoon accompanied by finely sculpted young lovelies without being harassed and cajoled. This guy is a nuisance. I need to Expose him brother and expose him quick. But how without defiling the gentleman's time encrusted social pact?

[WiglessBidaar]

Navy,

What if the blunt truth makes him strike my name from his phone book?

[globetrotter2]

"Invention is the mother of necessity" Thorstein Veblen .

I don't see how to invoke moral philosophy into this: It is simple he broke an agreement.

[WiglessBidaar]

Globe,

I don't understand. Remove the Qat from your lips. What promise has the guy broken?

[globetrotter2]

Neglecting academic duty is a breach of agreement; isn't it?

No qaat, I have a rioja (alcohol free of course)

[Navy9]

He is not that important, what is important is you? Would your ethics frown upon such behavior and try to do something about it hence taking the road less traveled or would you be indifferent?

[WiglessBidaar]

Globe

But the trouble is that when I first joined the workforce the philandering guy did me a good turn. He made sure that I was settled in, took me out for dinner with his mates and generally went out of his way to make sure that I felt welcome.

There is something immoral about training my bright torchlight on the dark alleyways of his adultery. I can tell you have no friends.

[Saraxnow]

I would have replied a solution if you did not include an idiotic line such as a 'brother sharing a semen with a sister' and the like. You speak of morality and yet you have this. Plus, you need to get to the point when you want to express a problem to others of whom you want their help. Ever heard of the saying ''the best speech is that which is short and expressive'' ?

Apologies if I came across as rude.

[WiglessBidaar]

Saraxnow

Do you not have Muslim brothers and sisters, and do they not roll in the hay with each other when the guy puts a ring on her finger? I suspect that you might have a leaking breast implant for brains.

No offence taken of course. Only children get angry. I seek your counsel brother. Help me.

[Saraxnow]

Saraxnow

Do you not have Muslim brothers and sisters, and do they not roll in the hay with each other when the guy puts a ring on her finger? I suspect that you might have a leaking breast implant for brains.

No offence taken of course. Only children get angry. I seek your counsel brother. Help me.

Muslim brothers and sisters and people rolling in the hay? Nope, don't really live near a farm no. So, what have we: semen,ladypoker, leaking breast implants , what drugs to you take? lol

However, I would advise you to do two:

1) Speak sense to his brain after making sure he did not replace with a 'leaking breast implant' and remind him that what he is doing is immoral and that he will not survive for long

2)Do not expose him, for whomever exposes the secret sins of his brother will have his sin/s exposed one day- it is haram. You don't want to break his marriage too especially if he has children who will ultimately suffer from the divorce.

[GeoDesic]

Geo,

You don't know how these players think. If I try to reason with him, he will counter that I've been out-Casanoved and that envy sends me running around screaming like a schoolgirl robbed of her play doll. Maybe. I know enough about human epistemology to understand that no man’s motives are as purely virtuous as he likes to think. Down where the heart carries on its one beat drum and the kidneys groan under the pressure of ten pints of Whiskey, far down below a man's higher cognitive apparatus from which consciousness is forbidden push and pull subtle and hidden impulses beyond his overt control.

Who will deny it?

But I like to imagine that I can spot the green eyed monster when I see it, and that having eyed his plain looking mistress I can do much better. I just want to knock back my glass of red in the lazy afternoon accompanied by finely sculpted young lovelies without being harassed and cajoled. This guy is a nuisance. I need to Expose him brother and expose him quick. But how without defiling the gentleman's time encrusted social pact?

Do you find your motives vice in all cases? if you ever did something good out of sheer conviction, then your statement of human motivation not being wholly virtuous falls flat. People are not the same and I know I am making our discussion boring by counterting your generilization of human motives. Be that as it may saxib, I would say only address your friend's academic short-comings and let him continue with his sinful escapades. What affects you is not his ladypoker's whereabouts but his negligence of his academic duties.


I see you are working hard at bedding your resetnment with that red sensory deprivation drink. How does it work? My view of Alcohol is that it is temproary fix for human displeasure with their life in general, a habit that solves nothing for them but adds to their misery.

[gurey25]

i have a better solution, why dont you relieve him of this burden and seduce the woman away..
you will be saving his marriage and career and doing him and you both a favour