How shall we tackle social taboos; Mental disorders

[globetrotter2]

Genes, drug abuses, qaad consumption and the effects of civil wars have combined to create a ticking bomb about to explode. A visitor to any city in the west is struck by the sheer number of Somalis who either have correct diagnosis or who have symptoms.

The suicide rate is relatively high. Spontaneous murders have occurred in Norway, UK and several other countries.
Ironically, Somalis seem only to know one kind of mental disorder; schizophrenia which is easily visible. We have other kinds of mental disorders that are very difficult to diagnose; depression, psychological or behavioral patterns that have as a result of long term exposure to mental trauma.

Most Somalis have a mental trauma in the baggage; they probably grew up during the civil war years; some of them have witnessed deaths, raped or have even committed; there are cases of Somalis waking up in the middle of the night claiming that they only shot in self defence. In addition, to many Somalis coming to the west was a horrible ordeal; insecure boats, deserts and horrible experiences.
The worst part is when someone is undergoing treatment it is not uncommon for people to claim that he was injected into silence.
What can be done to end this social taboo and encourage people to visit a psychologist?

[globetrotter2]

An eye catching study

http://v5.healthinschools.org/static/JC ... nation.pdf

[grandpakhalif]

Depression doesn't exist, read the Qur'an and you'll be fine. I have a theory, the West has sold us this notion that 'depression' is somehow a clinical illness which needs to be treated, thus they rolled out thousands of odd new medicines. The end goal is profit off their lies by selling billions of dollars in depression pills i.e, Prozac and Zoloft. Pharmaceutical companies have generated the most profit than any other industry in modern history, so I don't buy into this Western materialistic illnesses.


QURAN IS A CURE FOR ALL DISEASES, NOT THE WHITE MAN.

[Estarix]

Grandpa@Depression is a natural human condition, its a state when people are extremely sad and withdrawn, lifeless, de-motivated,restless, stress and angry. These are all natural emotions combined which affects people, It can be triggered by the death of a relative or a failure in a task. Secondly how can depression be condemned in Islam, i can agree that excessive mourning is condemned but no - one can help the feeling depression.

The solution im sure lies in getting rid of the root and cause of depression discouraging and getting rid of khat, unemployment.
Im sure the newer generation of Somalis though who are more knowledgable in institutions and more integrated would visit a psychiatrist and a psychologist.

[WiglessBidaar]

Depression doesn't exist, read the Qur'an and you'll be fine. I have a theory, the West has sold us this notion that 'depression' is somehow a clinical illness which needs to be treated, thus they rolled out thousands of odd new medicines. The end goal is profit off their lies by selling billions of dollars in depression pills i.e, Prozac and Zoloft. Pharmaceutical companies have generated the most profit than any other industry in modern history, so I don't buy into this Western materialistic illnesses.


QURAN IS A CURE FOR ALL DISEASES, NOT THE WHITE MAN.

Man is a creature so constructed that he is bound to encounter the blues my overweight sister. Let me tell you a sheeko that will knock you right back. In years gone past when you were a toothless kid who wrapped his lips around his mummy's teat and sat in a diaper heavy with a pile of smelly you-know-what, I used to robe myself in a flowing khamees and scrape my head furiously on the floor as I reared my firm buttocks majestically to the sky so the Salafi brothers in the back row might get a little whiff to banish depression.

In this at least you are correct. Uncommonly stupid people suffer less from the blues because existential angst stems from an overactive cerebral cortex whose rapid operations give off a brilliant shower of sparks like fireworks that soar upwards into the night sky to kiss the stars, from the lonely awareness that man is a microscopic atom in a cosmos boundlessly vast in which he must wander for but a small time and then, wearied and fatigued, finally perish. Depression is the mark of the superior creature. When did you last spot a bison with a long face abti?

The mentally defective man with an IQ south of ten never engages his higher cerebral faculties. If one maintains that up where the Invisible Choir sings and the devils frolic sits their very own personal bodyguard who cares about how you wipe your ass and whether you get that dream job with KFC flipping burgers, what does one have to fear? Around the clock bodyguards are an expensive luxury in my neck of the woods.

The world as revealed by modern science, a vast cold wasteland in which the trousered ape is an inconsequential atom for whose endless wars no cosmic power cares throws an intelligent man into life with his hands bound and bids him to swim. He does well if he keeps his head above water. Sometimes I wish I was born as stupid as the towelheads my kindred because Wallahi nothing is blissful as ignorance.

To never be weighed down with thoughts about first and last things is nothing to crow about. Recall that children are happier than adults abti, but wiser they are not. Less time then showing off your gap toothed smile, and perhaps more time thinkiing. I know it's hard, but I will help you.

[Beans]

I remember witnessing the mentally disabled getting shunned in our community and it is widely spread in many societies as well.

Depression exists and so do others.It sucks when people try to ignore a problem that cant be hidden.God knows what i heard when i made the suggestion for a psychiatric intervention for a Somali family that was having an issue with their son.

Like Xaaski mentioned,it is a chemical imbalance in the brain.There are ways of correcting but the issue needs to be recognized first.

One prevailing example i applaud for the Somali community is the minimal post partum depression in new mothers.Somali new mothers are very much supported in most cases and do get help from relatives and such at the beginning of a newborns life.That definitely helps.

[globetrotter2]

Excellent points by Wigless,Beans, Xaaski Cigaal and Estarix.

Grandpakhalif,
I guess you provide a good case for a mentally disturbed somali who is in dire need of help. How can you claim that this disease does not exist?

Diseases do not target creed or colour. There are numerous studies which show that the number of somalis with mental diseases including depression is high.

[WiglessBidaar]

Excellent points by Wigless,Beans, Xaaski Cigaal and Estarix.

Grandpakhalif,
I guess you provide a good case for a mentally disturbed somali who is in dire need of help. How can you claim that this disease does not exist?

Diseases do not target creed or colour. There are numerous studies which show that the number of somalis with mental diseases including depression is high.

It is very easy to put my handsome nephew Grandpak down as mentally aborted, but the truth is that he's just a hormonally charged young kid full of dangerous chemicals. In the summer of our youth you will remember, Globe, that you and I ran to daring adventures necking young Fatimas in the barnyard and touching them where the wadaad told us not to, but the promptings of Grandpak's flesh are stunted by his domineering ayeeyo with the heavy broomstick. Down it comes every morning on his poor widdle head to the point where he utters the absurd. Miskiin. Give the guy a break waraa. He just needs the right environment to help him evolve into a Mujahid for Liberty, Punani and Bacardi Breezer and Brandy.

[Tuba]

Honesty is the best policy, just tell the person in question with a straight face. "Waa walantaha". Please do report the reaction.

[HELWAA]

The worst of all is those who take mental sick person backhome and think he will miracley recover.

[WiglessBidaar]

^ My tasty Xalwa, there is in that single line from your hot lips more wisdom than all the rest of your sound and fury signifying nothing. Is this because you have grown wiser and more beautiful sister, or has the dementia taken full possession of my tiny brain? Hard to say runti, but even so I cherish your outburst of sanity and pray to the Cosmic Tenant to expand the frontiers of your knowledge. Ameen deh xalwa.

[globetrotter2]

Another observation is that these mental patients are sometimes sent home and after alot of koran are married to innocent young women and men. They bring them to Europe and North America and abuse and in some intances murder them; there was a case in Norway of a closet wadaad murdering his wife and children , another in the heart of england.

[WiglessBidaar]

^ To speak of a mentally unstable wadaad is a neoplasm. A wadaad is by defintion cognitively impaired. True or false?

[globetrotter2]

^ To speak of a mentally unstable wadaad is a neoplasm. A wadaad is by defintion cognitively impaired. True or false?

True.

Wadaads ( wahabists) are sexual freaks; their whole repertoire evolves on the subject of sex;

[WiglessBidaar]

^ To speak of a mentally unstable wadaad is a neoplasm. A wadaad is by defintion cognitively impaired. True or false?

True.

Wadaads ( wahabists) are sexual freaks; their whole repertoire evolves on the subject of sex;

When I am dictator, I shall drag the towelheads to the sewage plant and hurl them in, but I fear they may contaminate the sewage.