I tried to count the 12 Imams

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

I didnt come further than this:
Imam Abu Bakr
Imam Umar
Imam Uthman
Imam Ali
Imam Hassan
Imam Umar ibn abdul aziz


6 more imams are missing.

[The_Emperior5]

Imam Hussein Ibn ali

Imam jacfar al sadiq

Imam Ali zeynal Abidin

Imam Musa al kadim

imam ali rida

Imam Muhammad al taqi

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Imam Hussein Ibn ali

Imam jacfar al sadiq

Imam Ali zeynal Abidin

Imam Musa al kadim

imam ali rida

Imam Muhammad al taqi

I doubt that sxb.
If you mean imam in the sense of:having knowledge, discples, giving lectures.
Then you are right.
But i think the prophets pbuh hadith was talking about imams who will be rulers.
If we look it at that way then Imam Hassan r.a wont even be in the list of "12 Imams".


wallahu ahlam

[ciyaal_warta]

i thought shia invented the whole 12 imaams do we have a hadith saheeh ??

[Enlightened~Sista]

That 12 Imam hadeeth is a fabrication without a doubt, the Shias inserted it into the Sunni books to give their beliefs more credence.

[Saraxnow]

What is this Shia stuff? Is someone trying to get himself confused here.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Some people dont know their religion:

Sanan Abi Daud Book 36, Number 4266:
Narrated Jabir ibn Samurah:

The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: The religion will continue to be established till there are twelve caliphs over you, and the whole community will agree on each of them. I then heard from the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) some remarks which I could not understand. I asked my father: What is he saying: He said: all of them will belong to Quraysh.

[grandpakhalif]

May Allah guide you

[Estarix]

Some people dont know their religion:

Sanan Abi Daud Book 36, Number 4266:
Narrated Jabir ibn Samurah:

The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: The religion will continue to be established till there are twelve caliphs over you, and the whole community will agree on each of them. I then heard from the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) some remarks which I could not understand. I asked my father: What is he saying: He said: all of them will belong to Quraysh.

Can you not see the holes in that Hadith?

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

May Allah guide you

Sahih Muslim Book 020, Number 4480:
It has been narrated on the authority of Jabir b. Samura who said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: Islam will continue to be triumphant until there have been twelve Caliphs. Then the Holy Prophet (may peace be upon him) said something which I could not understand. I asked my father: What did he say? He said: He has said that all of them (twelve Caliphs) will be from the Quraish.


I think you will say now: May Allah guide Imam Muslim and Sahaabi Jabir bin Samura r.a.

According to khawaarijta 12 imams is falsehood

[DR-YALAXOOW]

quraish tribe does not exist any moore.

[Saraxnow]

^ What do you mean according to khawariijta? This is a Shiite invention that we need these Imams. Tell me what right-minded Sunni believes this. Also I believe if you have an ounce of 'ilm you would know that there are degrees of hadith. So what is the Status of this Hadith? Is it Fabricated, Weak or Good or Authentic???

Furthermore, what happens to the Ummah when they run out of 12 imams?

[ciyaal_warta]

^ What do you mean according to khawariijta? This is a Shiite invention that we need these Imams. Tell me what right-minded Sunni believes this. Also I believe if you have an ounce of 'ilm you would know that there are degrees of hadith. So what is the Status of this Hadith? Is it Fabricated, Weak or Good or Authentic???

Furthermore, what happens to the Ummah when they run out of 12 imams?

another twelve will come i guess for season 2

[Saraxnow]

Musalsal wala sho?

[Mondey]

Imam Al khomaini

Imam AhmediNajaad

Imam Khaatami

3 more to go