Why don't they like anjem choudary?

[union]

The guy is on the payroll of people that want to further dehumanize Muslims.

Muslims in America are all about carrying on their own business, building a better life... the community is actually VERY apathetic to political issues... much less bringing a Caliphate about.

union, you're trying way too hard. If you hate Islam and Muslims, thats your problem.

Read the thread fool, we are not talking about "Muslims in America", Choudary is from the UK where there is a substantial community of radical Muslims.
and these wahabis are the furthest thing from "apathetic to political issues" be it in the west or else where. And you have no evidence of him being on a "payroll".

[union]

I don't like him either.

Why not? Ignoring his Paki ethnicity, he is a carbon copy of you.

[ToughGong]

It has to ba an aqeeda issue

[accident]

MI5 agent trying to stir up problems for Muslims in the UK. The only people who like this guy are people like you (who want to dehumanize Muslims and make it seem like Islam is a hateful religion) and brain dead, lets' blow ourselves up kids.

[union]

MI5 agent trying to stir up problems for Muslims in the UK. The only people who like this guy are people like you (who want to dehumanize Muslims and make it seem like Islam is a hateful religion) and brain dead, lets' blow ourselves up kids.

Don't try to f-king associate this paki monkey with me you douche. When did I say I like him? I absolutely loathe him, I just can't understand why wahabis don't like him, he advocates for EVERYTHING they stand for. I have not seen ONE wahabi say they disagree with his political stances, all I've seen was a bunch of unsubstantiated allegations accusing him of being an agent.

[grandpakhalif]

I don't like him either.

Why not? Ignoring his Paki ethnicity, he is a carbon copy of you.

Because he's causing problems for the Muslim community in the UK who are already under threat, he's the reason why the British EDL has popped up and is gaining support. I agree with most of his stances, but the UK is not the place to start, maybe he should pack up and head to Pakistan, otherwise he's a hypocrite.

[accident]

Oh my bad.

That is odd, I would expect hardline, takfiri, Wahabi, etc to agree and sympathize with this guy.

[Saraxnow]

He does not represent the majority of British Muslims.

[union]

I don't like him either.

Why not? Ignoring his Paki ethnicity, he is a carbon copy of you.

Because he's causing problems for the Muslim community in the UK who are already under threat, he's the reason why the British EDL has popped up and is gaining support. I agree with most of his stances, but the UK is not the place to start, maybe he should pack up and head to Pakistan, otherwise he's a hypocrite.

Aren't you a Canadian who admitted to being in a radical MSA? Don't you post inflammatory and radical ideas from your location in Canada, thus damaging the overall image of Muslim Canadians? Isn't it a bit hypocritical for you to accuse him of being an agent and for "causing problems" when you do everything he does, albeit on a smaller less noticed scale?

Also, he has responded to statements like yours. He was born in the UK, he did not immigrate there, so going back to Pakistan is not a viable option. Also it's well known that Pakistan does not have the same freedoms as the UK, even wahabis realize that, that's why they all try to enter Western nations so they can simultaneously enjoy and condemm the freedoms that allow them to operate.

[union]

Oh my bad.

That is odd, I would expect hardline, takfiri, Wahabi, etc to agree and sympathize with this guy.

It's all good.

And yes, I would too.

[grandpakhalif]

union I don't call for sharica law in Canada, lol.

[union]

He does not represent the majority of British Muslims.

Of course he does not represent the majority, but he is the figurehead of a growing radical minority which some SomaliNetters are sympathetic too.

[union]

union I don't call for sharica law in Canada, lol.

Are you saying that shariah law has to be limited to Muslim majority countries? Is that your theological disagreement with Anjem Choudary? Choudary belives that shariah is good for "all time and places" and that Western Muslims should not only propagate Islam, but that they should also strive to dismantle democracy and freedom while supporting the establishment of a worldwide Islamic state. What is your position grandpakhalif?

[grandpakhalif]

union I don't call for sharica law in Canada, lol.

Are you saying that shariah law has to be limited to Muslim majority countries? Is that your theological disagreement with Anjem Choudary? Choudary belives that shariah is good for "all time and places" and that Western Muslims should not only propagate Islam, but that they should also strive to dismantle democracy and freedom while supporting the establishment of a worldwide Islamic state. What is your position grandpakhalif?

My position is that we should first of all free our lands from any democratic/western influence, i.e we need a base to spread the Islamic Khilfah, of course sharia is appropriate for the entire Earth, but the concept should be exported from the holy lands, i.e Medina, Mecca, jerusuleum.

[union]

union I don't call for sharica law in Canada, lol.

Are you saying that shariah law has to be limited to Muslim majority countries? Is that your theological disagreement with Anjem Choudary? Choudary belives that shariah is good for "all time and places" and that Western Muslims should not only propagate Islam, but that they should also strive to dismantle democracy and freedom while supporting the establishment of a worldwide Islamic state. What is your position grandpakhalif?

My position is that we should first of all free our lands from any democratic/western influence, i.e we need a base to spread the Islamic Khilfah, of course sharia is appropriate for the entire Earth, but the concept should be exported from the holy lands, i.e Medina, Mecca, jerusuleum.

So the Muslims living in the West currently should not actively oppose secularism and democracy?