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Muslims warned against westernizing muslim women.

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By ABDUL HANNAN TAGO | ARAB NEWS
Published: Dec 12, 2011 01:00 Updated: Dec 12, 2011 01:04

RIYADH: The head of the Presidency of the Two Holy Mosques Affairs argued in Riyadh on Saturday that general perceptions about Western lifestyle and culture have played a major role in influencing public opinion on women’s rights in a Muslim society.

Saleh Abdurahman Al-Hussein’s remarks came at a gathering of more than 1,000 participants attending a forum on the rights and duties of women in Islam.

Al-Hussein, who is also president of the King Abdulaziz Center for National Dialogue, was addressing the first Saudi conference on women’s rights organized by the Researchers’ Center for Women Studies (RCWS).

A large number of prominent Saudi scholars, charitable organizations and human rights advocates participated in the event. The first session was presided over by Yousof Al-Aqeel.

Al-Hussein said these perceptions based on the concept of Western culture may be either correct or incorrect. However, it has heavily affected the culture, language and even the dress style of Muslims, he said, adding the same influence is seen when it comes to the evaluation of women’s rights.

In his inaugural speech, Fuad Abdul Kareem Al-Abdul Kareem, RCWS' secretary-general, said the forum’s main focus, among other issues, is on the socioeconomic factors of Saudi women based on Saudi law.

“This conference is merely intended to be a research and scientific forum where we can come up with resolutions and solutions to some social and financial problems facing Saudi women.”

There are other aspects to be tackled during the course of the discussion, such as divorce problems and an increasing number of unmarried women.

However, in an interview on the sidelines of the conference on the current campaign in favor of allowing Saudi women to work for the first time at shopping malls, Al-Abdul Kareem said that there are discussions on this matter among Saudi intellectuals.

He said people would allow Saudi women to work within the framework of Islamic teachings and for their financial needs. There are some who reiterate their belief that Saudi women have major family responsibilities, adding that other countries' experiences with regard to working women were not very encouraging and did not necessarily change their economic situations.

Pointing out that in Islam men are obliged to take care of their women’s financial needs, he said in this conference they are going to address the issue in line with Islamic teachings and the rights due to them under the existing system.

Al-Abdul Kareem said that imposing Western views on Saudi and Muslim women with regard to their rights amounts to interference.

He added every country has its own way of dealing with issues. "We deal with our Muslim women in our own way and provide for all their needs, including the right to education, health and other expenses within the framework of our religion.” :up: :up: :up: :up:

He said Muslim women in their countries should be left alone to carry out their religious obligations because of the prevalent values of democracy and freedom. :up: :up:

They should not be accused of being backward because of their religion, he added. He said if Westerners want to know the reality about Muslim women, they should read books available on this issue, he observed.

Ali Al-Namlah, the former minister of social affairs who spoke about philosophy on women's rights in the East and West, said that there is no comparison between Muslim women and their counterparts in the West in terms of value.

Al-Namlah agreed Muslim women have been affected by the lifestyle of others. However, they have also exerted a positive influence on the West, particularly in America where Islam has gained a large number of followers.

Citing a forecast, the lecturer said that in Europe Islam is predicted to prosper within 12 years. In contrast, Al-Namlah said there are millions of women around the world whose moral values have been declining. This has resulted in numerous abortions due to their illegitimate relations with men.

At Saturday night's session, other lecturers who spoke were RCWS Director Noorah Ibrahim Al-Omar and Saad Nasser Al-Shithri, a senior religious leader in the Kingdom. Zaid Abdul Muhsin Al-Hussein, vice president of the Saudi Human Rights Commission, acted as a moderator for the session.
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Mashalalh, Saudi government has clarified its position, and told the West to stop interfering in the business of muslim women for following the religion. Mashallah, all the haters just follow the west like animals. :down: :down:
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What is your opinion on the clergy of Saudi Arabia and their relationship with the ruling Bin Saud family?
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The scholars are upon the manhaj of the salaf of ahlul sunna, and I have no right to criticize them. They advise the Kingdom and are a helping hand, although the family is not perfect we have to obey the leader as there will be constant chaos and fitnah, may god bless the scholars for they inherit prophethood.
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grandpakhalif wrote:The scholars are upon the manhaj of the salaf of ahlul sunna, and I have no right to criticize them. They advise the Kingdom and are a helping hand, although the family is not perfect we have to obey the leader as there will be constant chaos and fitnah, may god bless the scholars for they inherit prophethood.
Please clarify the meaning of the bolded text.
How do the "inherit prophethood"?
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Abu al-Darda’ (Allah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace) said,

“Scholars are the inheritors of the prophets.” [Related byTirmidhi, Abu Dawud, Nasa'i, Ibn Maja, Ahmad, Ibn Hibban, and others] Ibn al-Mulaqqin, Zayla`i, Ibn Hajar, and others seemed it sound (hasan) or rigorously authentic (sahih)]
Why does it matter to you atheist boi?
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Its not really a revolution till the House of Saud falls
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grandpakhalif wrote:may god bless the scholars for they inherit prophethood.
Nobody "inherits prophethood"...what the Hadith is saying is scholars inherit from the Prophets AS, and what they inherit is knowledge.
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Do scholars speak with divine inspiration and should their edicts be followed as if they were expressing the will of God? In what way should scholars be subject to criticism, and is the statement "scholars are the inheritors of the prophets" supported by any scriptural text directly from the Qu'ran (as a prophet can only be anointed by God, no one else) and how can you be sure of that the authenticity of this hadith?

*directed at thread op
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yungnfresh wrote:
grandpakhalif wrote:may god bless the scholars for they inherit prophethood.
Nobody "inherits prophethood"...what the Hadith is saying is scholars inherit from the Prophets AS, and what they inherit is knowledge.
yungfresh i know, they inherit the knowledge, maybe I worded it wrong.


union, no scholars don't have any divine inspiration or have direct access like the prophets. but they studied the knowledge of the Prophet (Saws) very thoroughly and will spread the deen like the prophets, they should be respected and only criticized by fellow scholars of faith who are equipped with the knowledge to do so, not laymen and ignorants like me. and yes that hadith is agreed as (saheeh, authentic) or (hassan, sound and good)
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Shirib wrote:Its not really a revolution till the House of Saud falls
why are you inciting fitna akhi? House of Saud is horrible but we should not have a syria situation near the holy land.
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