Massive support for First cousin marriage in this site

[greenday]

But if both your eedos are sisters, put out your father out of the equation, than she's your ina eedo.

Your father would never be out of the equation tho cuz your eedo is only that cuz of her relation to your father, so he would be the basis of any label when referencing her relationship to you.

I think he means if the husband of your eedo is your fathers cousin then your father would not only be an abti to her but he will be a second adeer to the girl, so then maybe you can call her ina adeer but say your eedo is married to a man from a different qabil how can her kids be your ina adeer?

[Cinque Mtume]

But if both your eedos are sisters, put out your father out of the equation, than she's your ina eedo.

Your father would never be out of the equation tho cuz your eedo is only that cuz of her relation to your father, so he would be the basis of any label when referencing her relationship to you.

I'm messing with ya bro lol. Cousins by your dad's sister are simply ilma eedo man. But since you've recently visited your abtiyaal, I think that messed you up considering they got dudes called Shukri down there.

[Alphanumeric]

But if both your eedos are sisters, put out your father out of the equation, than she's your ina eedo.

Your father would never be out of the equation tho cuz your eedo is only that cuz of her relation to your father, so he would be the basis of any label when referencing her relationship to you.

So, if I understand your points correctly...

Child of your maternal aunt = habarwadaag
Child of your maternal uncle = ina abti
child of your paternal aunt = ina adeer
child of your paternal uncle = ina adeer

Is that right?

I think he means if the husband of your eedo is your fathers cousin then your father would not only be an abti to her but he will be a second adeer to the girl, so then maybe you can call her ina adeer but say your eedo is married to a man from a different qabil how can her kids be your ina adeer?

Now we're throwing cousins of parents into the mix?

To me, regardless of qabiil, if a man is married to my paternal aunt, he is "adheer". If my maternal aunt, he is "abti".

Am I wrong to say that then?

[mcali]

Sorry Coeus I'm not into forced or arranged marriage. I would teach my children that it is a completely normal thing if they marry from from dads side, but habrawadagahood that would be too risky.

Does that mean mother's side? Lol.

Mom's sister's kids: habarwadaag

Mom's brother's kids: ina abti

Dad's brother's kids: ina adeer

Dad's sister's kids: ina abti

First of this list is 100% right. Second coeus why do you care who we marry. I will marry my cousin and your cousin for all I care.

[greenday]

Alpha, dont listen to young, both can not be your ina abtis! Abti=mothers brother so only his children can be ina abtis


About the qabil i was using it as an example to show that the children of your aunti can be of a different qabil but the children of your adeer will always be of the same qabiil so you cant call them the same name, you have to show that they are related to you by your aunti

I call all men abti and all women habaryar if they are not my real eedo/adeer

[Alphanumeric]

First of this list is 100% right. Second coeus why do you care who we marry. I will marry my cousin and your cousin for all I care.

I call all men abti and all women habaryar if they are not my real eedo/adeer

So, do you view "abti" to have less value than "adeer"?

[greenday]

^^^The opposite

[Alphanumeric]

Yes but, you said if they're not your real adeer, you'd call them "abti". It seems you would place less value in that title.

I usually do it the other way round. Every elder male to me is automatically "adeer", unless I'm informed he's related to my mother some how. I assumed most of us did this.

[yungnfresh]

But if both your eedos are sisters, put out your father out of the equation, than she's your ina eedo.

Your father would never be out of the equation tho cuz your eedo is only that cuz of her relation to your father, so he would be the basis of any label when referencing her relationship to you.

I think he means if the husband of your eedo is your fathers cousin then your father would not only be an abti to her but he will be a second adeer to the girl, so then maybe you can call her ina adeer but say your eedo is married to a man from a different qabil how can her kids be your ina adeer?

Maybe cuz my father's sister is my eedo and her husband is my adeer so we reference him since waa adeerkay's daughter and Somalis reference the male instead of the female, the same way raga baa lagu abtirsadaa and not dumarka I get what you mean tho and it sounds illogical to say ilmo adeer for your dad's sister's kids, lakiin that's what it apparently is. It could be linguistic thing too by region where different regions have different ways of saying it so they might both be correct

Cinque, fuck you Seriously tho, when I went back home, only sedax shay baa laga yaqaaney...habarwadaag if it's ur mom's sis, ilmo abti when it's ur mom's bro and ilmo adeer when it's either your father's bro or sis. I specifically had an in-depth discussion about this with my cousins last month when I was there cuz I was wondering the reason why the mother's side has 2 different ways but the father's side has one, and their response was "maxaan kuu sheegnaa, waa Af-Soomaali"

[greenday]

Alpha, i said if they are not real because some people would get upset if i called them abti when they are my fathers brother although i call 1 of them abti because i know him well with other for example if am speaking with ones back home i say adeer because they expect it. Am not really used to saying adeer iyo eedo.

[yungnfresh]

But if both your eedos are sisters, put out your father out of the equation, than she's your ina eedo.

Your father would never be out of the equation tho cuz your eedo is only that cuz of her relation to your father, so he would be the basis of any label when referencing her relationship to you.

So, if I understand your points correctly...

Child of your maternal aunt = habarwadaag
Child of your maternal uncle = ina abti
child of your paternal aunt = ina adeer
child of your paternal uncle = ina adeer

Is that right?

I think he means if the husband of your eedo is your fathers cousin then your father would not only be an abti to her but he will be a second adeer to the girl, so then maybe you can call her ina adeer but say your eedo is married to a man from a different qabil how can her kids be your ina adeer?

Now we're throwing cousins of parents into the mix?

To me, regardless of qabiil, if a man is married to my paternal aunt, he is "adheer". If my maternal aunt, he is "abti".

Am I wrong to say that then?

Yes the list is right and greenday is crazy, Ilaahay Ha Caafiyo.

And yes, I call my dad's side eedo/adeer and mom's side habaryar/abti.

[greenday]

^^^WTF waryaa, you just agreed with me that i was right wiilka been ha usheegin Alpha am right

[Alphanumeric]

Maybe cuz my father's sister is my eedo and her husband is my adeer so we reference him since waa adeerkay's daughter and Somalis reference the male instead of the female, the same way raga baa lagu abtirsadaa and not dumarka I get what you mean tho and it sounds illogical to say ilmo adeer for your dad's sister's kids, lakiin that's what it apparently is. It could be linguistic thing too by region where different regions have different ways of saying it so they might both be correct

So then, why does "habarwadaag" exist? I've never heard that before tonight. And what you're saying makes sense. I've never heard "ina eedo" or "ina habayar"/whatever the equivalent would be. I've never even heard "habarwadaag".

It seems from my experience I've only come across "ina adeer" and "ina abti". Combined with what you said, makes perfect sense to me that they're used in all respective instances.

And yes, I call my dad's side eedo/adeer and mom's side habaryar/abti.

And these are for the cousins of your parents? Makes perfect sense.

But what do you call your maternal aunt? Habaryar?

[Twist]

But if both your eedos are sisters, put out your father out of the equation, than she's your ina eedo.

Your father would never be out of the equation tho cuz your eedo is only that cuz of her relation to your father, so he would be the basis of any label when referencing her relationship to you.

So, if I understand your points correctly...

Child of your maternal aunt = habarwadaag
Child of your maternal uncle = ina abti
child of your paternal aunt = ina eedo
child of your paternal uncle = ina adeer

Is that right?

I think he means if the husband of your eedo is your fathers cousin then your father would not only be an abti to her but he will be a second adeer to the girl, so then maybe you can call her ina adeer but say your eedo is married to a man from a different qabil how can her kids be your ina adeer?

Now we're throwing cousins of parents into the mix?

To me, regardless of qabiil, if a man is married to my paternal aunt, he is "adheer". If my maternal aunt, he is "abti".

Am I wrong to say that then?

Fixed!

[Alphanumeric]

Alpha, i said if they are not real because some people would get upset if i called them abti when they are my fathers brother although i call 1 of them abti because i know him well with other for example if am speaking with ones back home i say adeer because they expect it. Am not really used to saying adeer iyo eedo.

So, to you, "abti" is a more familiar term, that you attribute to a level of comfort? So then, yes, you do view "abti" to have a higher value.

I can understand that, if you've been closer to your mother's brothers as a child.

Lol Twist, good lookin out.