Re: Morgan video

[Voltage]

In the middle of the video where Morgan is talking to SPM and he is describing to Absame and Harti how Marehan is a force and that they are the force behind the Darod name, you start to wonder how things would have turned out if Marehan had not marched to Mogadishu back from Gedo and exhausted themselves leading to USC getting the initiative and beginning of the end. If Marehan had closed off their border in the riverine areas, closing USC off in Banadir and waited for USC to turn on each other in Mogadishu, the regime might actually have went back to Mogadishu after the USC ate each other up in Mogadishu because we know Abgal and Habar Gidir only needed a cooling period to start to see each other as natural enemies which later happened. When Morgan is describing to SPM how every time USC tries to get out of Mogadishu, the Marehan send convoys to send them back from passing Balidoogle, literally in Lower Shabelle and Bay border. We know what happened next, Sade in alliance with SPM tried to march on Mogadishu and the debacle in Afgooye (when Cumar Jees was secretly working with USC and telling Darod secrets while also using his loyalists to backstab from the back) was the beginning of the end and gave USC the initiative to chase the remnants back to Gedo and Kismaayo which they captured before being chased back by the regrouped Darod. If they had never marched to Mogadishu, but protected their border of control which they were doing effectively as Morgan explains in the video, things might actually have turned out to be completely different. Oh well, wasn't meant to be but it is something to think about.

[BlackVelvet]

[Eaglehawk]

voltage

I heared before the point that morgan made, and you made the point also in past postings. morgan really gave me little inside into the past, it seems marexaan was stand alone well organised even capable of pulling of back to xamar startegy alone
I think usc was no match for marexaan millitry wise, but i think, the marexaan had political fatigue and they really had no political aspiration, the where tired of rule even if they got to xamar I don`t think they would have bothered to lead again.

infact when soldiers where being listed for the battle, the reason given to them was" difaaca sharafta marexaan", its seems marexaan never fought for power in those battles their intend was don`t give libin to hawiye and difaac sharafta marexaan and that inturn unleashed a major force whick was in lack in the kismaayo theater.

[sahal80]

In the middle of the video where Morgan is talking to SPM and he is describing to Absame and Harti how Marehan is a force and that they are the force behind the Darod name, you start to wonder how things would have turned out if Marehan had not marched to Mogadishu back from Gedo and exhausted themselves leading to USC getting the initiative and beginning of the end. If Marehan had closed off their border in the riverine areas, closing USC off in Banadir and waited for USC to turn on each other in Mogadishu, the regime might actually have went back to Mogadishu after the USC ate each other up in Mogadishu because we know Abgal and Habar Gidir only needed a cooling period to start to see each other as natural enemies which later happened. When Morgan is describing to SPM how every time USC tries to get out of Mogadishu, the Marehan send convoys to send them back from passing Balidoogle, literally in Lower Shabelle and Bay border. We know what happened next, Sade in alliance with SPM tried to march on Mogadishu and the debacle in Afgooye (when Cumar Jees was secretly working with USC and telling Darod secrets while also using his loyalists to backstab from the back) was the beginning of the end and gave USC the initiative to chase the remnants back to Gedo and Kismaayo which they captured before being chased back by the regrouped Darod. If they had never marched to Mogadishu, but protected their border of control which they were doing effectively as Morgan explains in the video, things might actually have turned out to be completely different. Oh well, wasn't meant to be but it is something to think about.

it was the political disgrace of an ex ruling family member could bring onto himself to prosecute a somali clan, sence then, morgan has stated he is a disgrace to siyaad barre so was siyaad barre involved in this disgraceful compaign? i though if the case of hargeisa bombing was a controversial one but now i understand the reasons of isaaq prosecution that it was based on clan cause.

[Voltage]

BV I know that post is not much to your liking but it seeks to address real life occurances that are well known to the Somali. What Morgan explains in that video was toward non-Marehan Darods. And when he lists the position and circumstance of the clan, the people concuirring and supporting are not Marehan. Lately you are all over the place in your defense of Aydiid and the USC which makes it laughable since you used to cover that aspect of you but my problem is not you disagree (you are qualified to do so), but do not do so at the expense of reality my sister.

[Voltage]

Eagle I agree. At that time time Siad was sitting in Buurdhuubo and the clan was towards defense. I think when they moved from that to trying to regain the capital thereby moving from defense to offense was the beginning of the end.

[Rainbows]

[abdalla11]

[AbdiWahab252]

lol,

The Marexan were busy looting Mogadishu and were the first to flee Siyaad Barre thought he could count on his Darood army but they fled before he did.

Marexan were no match for the Coalition of the Willing: Hawiye, Digil Mirifle including Shirib's people who opened up the canals to trap the Darood armies, the Jareer (who also took part).

So saxib, stop fantasizing about a tape released by a stupid Iljeex uncle of mine, Ali Said. That very tape if watched in full describes atroticies committed by the Darood especially against the minority women of Barawe. It was found as a spoil of war in the re-liberation of Kismayo

[Voltage]

What's historically accurate about what I said and what the tape said? Darod left Mogadishu but USC were boxed in Banadir. Darod then tried to take back Mogadishu coming all the way to Afgooye before losing the battle for many reasons. The USC took the initiative to chase the retreating Darod but could not hold their lands. A stalemate ensued that is still going on. No clan can hold the land of the other. This video takes place before the Afgooye and it shows as has been consistently recorded that Marehan and Darod had the initiative even after they left Mogadishu.

[Murax]

Imagine how things woulda been different if Xamar was recaptured, today Dawladnimo would still be in effect. Hindsight has taught us that Hawiye needed to be saved from themselves.

[The_Emperior5]

Imagine how things woulda been different if Xamar was recaptured, today Dawladnimo would still be in effect. Hindsight has taught us that Hawiye needed to be saved from themselves.

That would have been impossible hawiye faction usc captured all the weaponry in Mogadisho you were in the heart land of the Hawiye tribe its hard to fight in the heart land of another tribe ,when ogadens defected and their SPM was created the army only consisted of a handful Merexaan Dhulbahante that was about it maybe a few jareer weyne But yeah if you were successful defeating the USC and re capturing Xamar than that would have been something. in Somalia in 1991 it was winner takes all