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[grandpakhalif]

Grandpa, who are the Al Saud?

What gave them authority over the other tribes of Arabia?

Are they descendants of the Prophet, are they descendants of a Muslim dynasty (Ummayad etc), or are they just another random tribe that happened to have more strength than anybody else?

Rainbow, now your mocking Jihad eh? Dumb fag.

Based, Al Saud family come from the founding father and Imam Muhammad ibn Saud, a simple, pious man who was the ruler of Dir'iyah, amongst many rulers in the once volatile, idol-ridden, Najd province. Sheikh Muhammad ibn Abdulwahhab was being rejected by many rulers after hgiving them dacwa on the true Islam. One day he moved to Dir'iyah and Muhammad ibn Saud was one of the only rulers who agreed to his for One God, Allah and following Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) in his true sunnah. They both agreed to propagate this dacwa and many who agreed with them joined their ranks until they swept over Najd with little or no resistance, breaking polytheistic idols just like our Prophet. Until they ruled all of Najd.

This is how they came to power, their children who overtook power had the same goal of rectifying and desiring true tawxeed for all muslims, up until this day.

God bless them.

[Thuganomics]

Grandpa, who are the Al Saud?

What gave them authority over the other tribes of Arabia?

Are they descendants of the Prophet, are they descendants of a Muslim dynasty (Ummayad etc), or are they just another random tribe that happened to have more strength than anybody else?

This is how sxb


The Rasheedi Emirs were the rightful governers of the Arabian Peninsula and cooperated closely with the Ottoman empire. However, this cooperation became problematic as the Ottoman empire lost popularity.

One recurrent problem with the Rasheedi rule was the lack of a generally accepted rule of succession. The internal dispute normally centered on whether succession to the position of amir should be horizontal (i.e. to a brother) or vertical (to a son). These internal divisions within the family led to bloody infighting. In the last years of the nineteenth century six Rasheedi leaders died violently. Nevertheless The Al Rasheed Family still ruled and fought with each other hand with hand against Ibn Saud.

Over the first twenty years of the 20th century the Arab peninsula saw a long-running series of wars as the Saudis and their allies sought to unite the peninsula under their rule. While the Al Rasheed rallied the majority of other tribes to their side the effort proved futile and by 1921 Nejd was captured and given to Ibn Saud's army by the British command.

[Based]

I was hoping for a divine right of kings justification from Grandpa

[Talo alle udaa]

There are certain things to keep in mind, some backgroud information which would help in coming to certain conclusions.
They are as follows:

1. By the end of the 19th century, the Ottoman Empire, was really just an Empire. Although it held the tradional title of being leaders of the muslims, many of their civil laws were based on the swiss code.

2. The Ottoman Empire, gave little attention to Arabia, apart from the holy cities of Mecca tribal chiefs ruled much of the country side

3. Many of the arab tribes in Hejazz, were in constant feud, and like the days before the advent of Islam, each city had its own ruler

4. Sh. Muhammed bin abdil wahab himself, was born into a religious family that lived in one of those towns. His father was a Qadi in one of the courts


With those four points above, which to my knowledge is agreed upon by most historians, here are the commonly misundertood overlooked facts.

1. The Shaykh himself died two years prior to any conflict with the Ottoman state itself. However, he did wage war against many of the tribal ruled areas for some time

2. His own beliefs, and inspiration came from contradictions he observed in the behavior of the common folk. The obsession with the "awliya", the ceremonies held in grave sites, and so his personal mission became fighting what he saw as innovation that teethered on the edge of disbelief.

3. The Muhammed ibn Saud just happened to have been one of many rulers who made a pact with the shaykh to help him in his mission, and so the marriage was born.

4. The British Empire was involved several decades after the conflict dragged on, and it was the Saudis who did it not the Aala shaykhs (descendants of the Muhammed ibn abdel wahaab).
5. The ikhwan as they were called (different from the Ikhwan of Egypt) actually revolted against the Saudis for this reason but they were put down with brute force, rest were exiled and otheres were forced to toe the line.

[SahanGalbeed]

I trust my government (saudi arabia) over some crazy conspiracy theories anyday. I think this discussion is over.

"my " government?

[samadoon-waaxid]

grandpa and talo alle uu daa and Co,so you guys think saudi arabia is a righteous regime right? here is few challenge questions for yall.Bal waa car ninkii ka jawaaba with the daliil from the quran and sunah.I will take my hat for him walle.
1)is sunnah or part of the sharicah to inheret ruling of a country (al-saud)or the mufti role (al-sheikh)to your progeny for generations?
2)can you wage a war on a fellow muslim and take his life simply cuz he was a mubtadic(the case of mohamed bin abdi wahaab)?

[Thuganomics]

I trust my government (saudi arabia) over some crazy conspiracy theories anyday. I think this discussion is over.

"my " government?

What's wrong with that,adba soodiga yidhaa the Jewnited States is your government

[Talo alle udaa]

grandpa and talo alle uu daa and Co,so you guys think saudi arabia is a righteous regime right? here is few challenge questions for yall.Bal waa car ninkii ka jawaaba with the daliil from the quran and sunah.I will take my hat for him walle.
1)is sunnah or part of the sharicah to inheret ruling of a country (al-saud)or the mufti role (al-sheikh)to your progeny for generations?
2)can you wage a war on a fellow muslim and take his life simply cuz he was a mubtadic(the case of mohamed bin abdi wahaab)?

1-No its not the sunna
2- No its not allowed to wage war on a fellow muslim period. The shaikh in his ijtihaad came to the conclusion that the extreme sufis that were around him were not muslims but were mushriks and their activities were no different than the ones the prophet (saw) fought.

[samadoon-waaxid]

grandpa and talo alle uu daa and Co,so you guys think saudi arabia is a righteous regime right? here is few challenge questions for yall.Bal waa car ninkii ka jawaaba with the daliil from the quran and sunah.I will take my hat for him walle.
1)is sunnah or part of the sharicah to inheret ruling of a country (al-saud)or the mufti role (al-sheikh)to your progeny for generations?
2)can you wage a war on a fellow muslim and take his life simply cuz he was a mubtadic(the case of mohamed bin abdi wahaab)?

1-No its not the sunna
2- No its not allowed to wage war on a fellow muslim period. The shaikh in his ijtihaad came to the conclusion that the extreme sufis that were around him were not muslims but were mushriks and their activities were no different than the ones the prophet (saw) fought.

Bingo,there you have it,now tell me whats the difference between him and Al-shabaab?ileen ayaguba ijtihaad bey dhiig muslim ku xalaaleystaan ee.