39 Member Parliaments Endorse Banadir State

[SultanOrder]

Thank goodness this issue is stipulated to the whole people of Somalia. Ofcourse there is going to be more than one option on the table, but the ultimate vote is going to be to the post-Transition Parliament. With Faroole and Puntland having a major stake in the government, this issue is pretty much closed. One of the few things I like about Faroole, he is sure not to let this happen.

[abgaalKING]

PO

You are making laugh,faroole adiga ayuu wax kula yahay,he is actually a pawn in mogadishu and represents only his qabiil,wax aanu anaga noo cuntamin shaqeyn maayaan sleep on that walahi.

[SultanOrder]

Abgaal, I don't know who you consider mogadishu, pm, president, parlament, but he aint no pawn that's for sure If it helps you sleep at night, he can be

[greenday]

Thank goodness this issue is stipulated to the whole people of Somalia. Ofcourse there is going to be more than one option on the table, but the ultimate vote is going to be to the post-Transition Parliament. With Faroole and Puntland having a major stake in the government, this issue is pretty much closed. One of the few things I like about Faroole, he is sure not to let this happen.

I see

[qoraxeey]

These hutus have been screaming for own state for so many years now

it wont happen

Mogadishu is forver capital of somalia and it belongs to everybody ....and its becoming more open to the world thanks to the Turkish goverment


also nobody should take this charatar RovingMadness so seriously ......

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

Tarzan said today explicitly that Xamar will not be part of any federal state.

Are some kids here so clueless that they aren't even listening to what is actually happening on the ground?

I swear an autistic MJ child has more political acumen than the people setting up these new maamul goboleeds. Da fuk?

[Advo]

Tarzan said today explicitly that Xamar will not be part of any federal state.

Reality aside I tried to understand the concern of both sides but I think the best option is to satisfy all parties by making abgaal the mayors of mogadishu while the city comes under the central government. I do not see any other solution because It doesn't make sense for the nations capitol to be the seat of two mamuuls, making both equal and that is profoundly unfair to the rest of the country.

[SultanOrder]

Tarzan said today explicitly that Xamar will not be part of any federal state.

Reality aside I tried to understand the concern of both sides but I think the best option is to satisfy all parties by making abgaal the mayors of mogadishu while the city comes under the central government. I do not see any other solution because It doesn't make sense for the nations capitol to be the seat of two mamuuls, making both equal and that is profoundly unfair to the rest of the country.

The mayor should be whoever is elected by the people, whether they are is mudulood, murursade, habirgidir, darood, jareer, cadcad. No such thing as abgal should get this. Besides, you are giving more legitimacy to this "banaadir state", and the outcry of a few kids on here, than the reality on the ground. There is already two different groups who announced that they are "banaadir state", one already got arrested.

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

Personally I'm very happy to endorse the 'unukah leh' mentality for Xamar, it just means less people will be willing to move there, especially educated or wealthy people. And I'd be more than happy to direct those wealthy and educated people to Bosaso or some other decent city where 'unukah leh' bullshit is left at the door.

Nothing makes me happier than seeing prominent Banaadir figures openly claiming the city as a clan town and making threats towards people looking to settle in the city. Every retard who opens his mouth in Xamar (and there's no shortage of them) creates a new customer for Bosaso.

God bless reer unukah leh, making Xamar unlivable since 1991.

[Voltage]

I have yet to see a prominent Banadir figure endorse the "unukaa leh" mentality. Tarxan is the highest ranking local officer of Mudulood in Banadir Region and Sheikh Sharif is Mudulood and sitting in Villa Somalia and both are leading the fight against Mogadishu being a part of federal state.

[RovingMadness]

Abgaalking, why do you take someone saying Mogadishu is the capital and should be looked at in that scope as "being an enemy of Abgaal". I don't think the problem lies on my corner, I think it lies in your corner. Like someone said I didn't mention Jowhar, Balcad, Cadalle, Warsheikh, etc. Xamar was made its own small district (the smallest in the country) and coming under expressly by a governor and administration of its own since Somalia gained independence, whether in the 60's or the Kacaan. Xamar does not belong to a clan, it belongs to the Somali people. If you meant to say Abgaal are one of the prominent clans in terms of residency, I never denied that and because of that reason in the local administration of the Federal DIstrict obviously Abgaal and the main clans will be recognized. But to say that the capital is going to be part of a federal state with a tribal orientation including Jowhar, Balcad, Cadalle is so ludicrous I can't even continue to take part in such wishful thinking. Xamar will never be part of a federal state, it will continue to function as the Federal District.

@ Roving. Sxb, I am not going to compare suffering of Somalis with you. You brought up what you think is my individual circumstance and I simply showed you, once again, the irony in that especially coming from your individual person. I didn't talk about Hawiye or Abgaal or ever attempted to use refugee and misery which universally affected Somalis and is still affecting them. I know me bring up your individual background history is a sensitive subject but you shot the first shot and I ended it by throwing it back at your own person. Don't attempt to tribalize my response to you. As for Mogadishu, you went to a beach and video-tapped hiding from a decayed building. I will post the videos of my own uncle being chaffaured around like prince with everyone calling him "dawlada". Are you serious man? In Xamar, no one cares about your tribe. Everyone lives there. Just earlier this evening my mom was talking to her abti there (her mother's brother) who is a civilian there living and working his business. You can talk your calaacal to people who put value on it. You think in the middle 90's where you had your side of the greenline and warlords held turf. There are eras in the saga of Somalia and that era of that segment of the civil war has long ended. I am sorry the news hasn't reached you. Mogadishu will never be part of tribal federal state; take that to the bank, put an investment on it, and collect the dividends.

I think you need to give up & realize that neither you nor your clan has no say in the destiny or the future of Mogadishu. Not even an iota of force; so you shouldn't be talking like you are something whose opinions carry some weight. A federal district will be carved out of Mogadishu and designated as the Federal District and while the rest of the city will be part of Banadir State to maintain the clan-balance. This is just something you have to live with.

About my stay in Mogadishu, well you can make all sorts of fantastic and bombastic none-sense. I am not going to argue with you about some mundane shit like some Marehan guy being treated as "dowlada" and walking freely while anigo Mudulood Hiraab ah had to hid "among decayed buildings" As I said, the reality in Somalia makes a mockery out of your created fantasy. I can walk in any part of Mogadishu and feel right at home without any fear. You can not. And the few members of your clan that reside in Mogadishu are protected endangered species whose life is at the mercy of their hosts. Don't get it twisted.

[Voltage]

Ok, thanks sxb.

A federal district will be carved out of Mogadishu and designated as the Federal District and while the rest of the city will be part of Banadir State to maintain the clan-balance. This is just something you have to live with.

How about no. I am 100% confident Mogadishu will never be part of any tribal or otherwise federal state. You get used to that.

[RovingMadness]

I have yet to see a prominent Banadir figure endorse the "unukaa leh" mentality. Tarxan is the highest ranking local officer of Mudulood in Banadir Region and Sheikh Sharif is Mudulood and sitting in Villa Somalia and both are leading the fight against Mogadishu being a part of federal state.

Tarzan leading the fight against Mogadishu being part of Federal State? Seriously, where do you get your facts?

[Voltage]

Tarzan leading the fight against Mogadishu being part of Federal State? Seriously, where do you get your facts?

Guess someone didn't here his statements today from his press meeting in Cabdicasiis. The man himself said Mogadishu will never be part of any federal state and the Consitution and Parliament will put this into law.

[RovingMadness]

The argument here is clear:

What's mine is mine and what's yours we will share.


The people of Mogadishu did not ask for Mogadishu to be made the capital of Somalia. It was done so because of its history and significance which had nothing to do with other Somalis from other areas. The people of Banadir (today Sh.Hoose, Sh.Dexe and Banadir) did not ask to be seperated and Banadir today is not public property unless the whole federal system is revoked and NO qabiil can claim ANY part of Somalia.

You guys can keep going round and round in circles but let us learn from history and be upfront with one another. No one is stupid and no one will accept the shortend of the stick.

LOL Thats the entire argument summoned up. The people saying Mogadishu all Somalis while at the sametime saying "my regions are exclusively mine" are driven by clan agenda and they make themselves abundantly clear when they say Mogadishu is historically part of Banadir State stretching from Warshiekh to Barava can't go back to its pre 1974 reality. This whole discussion driven by a provincial attempt to redraw and rearrange the clan balance in Somalia and it is ironic that the folks propagating for this none sense have neither the legal nor the military means to make their fantasies reality. It is quite hallucinating feeling when they run around with "Mogadishu for all" none sense.